why can't I have normal knowledge of life?

[GorillaTheater]

I am nice. You are not. You said my issue was nonsense, when you hold no objective/absolute right to label it as such. you're all self-important and ego-driven, which are hardly the most desirable of human personality traits.

 

At least he has a normal knowledge of life.

[skydiveaddict]

At least he has a normal knowledge of life.

 

 

True.............

[jean-luc sisko]

At least he has a normal knowledge of life.

 

So I should have it too.

[jean-luc sisko]

Either Jean-luc is simply a troll or he has the psychological condition of Projection.

 

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-psychological-projection.htm

"Psychological projection is a form of defense mechanism in which someone attributes thoughts, feelings, and ideas which are perceived as undesirable to someone else."

 

See also:

http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Self/Growth/Psychological_Projection_Dealing_With_Undesirable_Emotions.aspx

 

I think you (collectively) have a problem with self-importance, and an issue with basic interaction. You're cajoling me to warm to you. Do you have acceptance issues? I am healthy, I don't have that. I presume you will dodge this question as you have all of my other points.

Edited November 16, 2010 by jean-luc sisko

[jean-luc sisko]

True.............

 

Your ethical compass is highly and conveniently selective.

 

I don't mind though, you seem quite slinky and with much firmness in thought or deed. So such an action is understandable.

[skydiveaddict]

Alright, you win. You have NO right to "normal knowledge of life".. You must cast your search for it down into the bottomless pit of human ignorance.

[Truthseeker-John]

I tend to be fussy about words but the mods didn't let me re-edit my previous post. So to clarify my post which says "to someone else", it should be saying "onto[/] someone else". There is a difference and apparently they did a typo.

 

http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Self/Growth/Psychological_Projection_Dealing_With_Undesirable_Emotions.aspx says...

 

"Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the (their) unwanted feelings."

....

 

"Luckily, there are methods you can use to identify why you are projecting your emotions and put a stop to this coping mechanism."

....

 

 

"During his sessions with patients, Freud noticed that they would sometimes accuse others of having the same feelings they themselves were demonstrating. By engaging in this behavior, the patient was better able to deal with the emotions he or she was experiencing."

[Truthseeker-John]

I think you (collectively) have a problem with self-importance, and an issue with basic interaction.

I say this kindly and for your own good - you should take a look in the mirror.

 

You're cajoling me to warm to you.

Of course I am, I can see you have a problem and I want to help but you won't accept what people say on here. So whether we can help is something else, because you often respond with negative comments toward us who try to help.

 

Do you have acceptance issues?

Not at all, do you??

 

That proves my point about projection.

 

I am healthy, I don't have that.

It is a subconscious thing and you have been nasty to us when we have not been nasty to you... so what does that mean?

 

I presume you will dodge this question as you have all of my other points.

Please tell me what points I dodged? Then ask yourself what points have you dodged, when people on here have tried their best to help you.

 

We can only do so much and people get fed up with trying... so a bit of advice, Jean-luc - try listening for a change.

Edited November 16, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[jean-luc sisko]

I say this kindly and for your own good - you should take a look in the mirror.

 

How so? Why should I be nice to you?

Of course I am, I can see you have a problem and I want to help but you won't accept what people say on here. So whether we can help is something else, because you often respond with negative comments toward us who try to help.

 

You were rude, and frankly are being shifty with the truth.

Not at all, do you??

 

That proves my point about projection.

 

It is a subconscious thing and you have been nasty to us when we have not been nasty to you... so what does that mean?

 

Please tell me what points I dodged? Then ask yourself what points have you dodged, when people on here have tried their best to help you.

 

We can only do so much and people get fed up with trying... so a bit of advice, Jean-luc - try listening for a change.

 

You dodge points, which you cannot rationally debate, that it's my right to the normal/usual life knowledge.

[jean-luc sisko]

Alright, you win. You have NO right to "normal knowledge of life".. You must cast your search for it down into the bottomless pit of human ignorance.

 

Please explain why I do not possess this right. I think most healthy people, of which you perhaps are not (but there we go, we don't live in a perfect world, right?) recognise that all hold the same basic rights in all things.

[Truthseeker-John]

How so? Why should I be nice to you?

Because I'm a nice guy and if you are not a deliberate Troll, I want to help you.

 

You were rude, and frankly are being shifty with the truth.

I have not been rude to you or anyone on here but you have been rude to us, even to the point of calling people bad names.

 

You dodge points, which you cannot rationally debate

Again, Please tell me what points I have dodged? Then ask yourself what points you have dodged, when people on here have tried their best to help you.

Also tell me where I have been irrational with you.

 

You can't answer Jean-luc, because you are projecting and are blaming others for your problems when we are trying to help you. Other than that, you are simply a Troll who is here to waste our time but I would rather not think that.

 

that it's my right to the normal/usual life knowledge.

Yes you have that right and when you start treating others as you would like to be treated you will find it. Edited November 17, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[skydiveaddict]

Please explain why I do not possess this right.

 

 

Because I am the Keeper of "Normal Knowledge of Life".

I have decided that you don't qualify.

[TaraMaiden]

You have no right to any Knowledge of Life because every lesson Life brings you, you reject and deflect.

How can you have knowledge of Life when you make it so obvious in all your postings that you don't want it?

Knowledge - rather like Respect - has to be earned.

it looks very much to me, and many others here, that you are incapable of earning - or learning - anything.

 

That is why you cannot have normal Knowledge of Life.

because you neither want it, nor deserve it.

[BambooLand]

I don't know exactly what up with yerr post, but if yo uwant to gain basic knowlege of life- my answer would be- To just live.

[Truthseeker-John]

Because I am the Keeper of "Normal Knowledge of Life".

I have decided that you don't qualify.

 

You have no right to any Knowledge of Life because every lesson Life brings you, you reject and deflect.

How can you have knowledge of Life when you make it so obvious in all your postings that you don't want it?

Knowledge - rather like Respect - has to be earned.

it looks very much to me, and many others here, that you are incapable of earning - or learning - anything.

 

That is why you cannot have normal Knowledge of Life.

because you neither want it, nor deserve it.

That was a bit harsh skydiveaddict & Tara...

 

You see Jean-luc, good people are loosing their patience with you, because you don't want to accept what they say when they try to help. Instead you blame it on those of us who have tried to understand and help you.

 

If you are kind to us, we will be kind to you and will try to help the best way we can but you can't be expecting much help on this forum, when you twist things around and insult us because of your psychological projection.

 

If you are not a Troll Jean-luc, open up and if or when you do so, you might find that there are people that are willing to help you. Otherwise, if you are determined to play games with us, as you have been doing, we cannot help you and people will be ignoring you.

Edited November 18, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[TaraMaiden]

Ts-John, have you looked at his threads?

Have you seen the timbre of his posts?

A mere glance will tell you why the good people of LS are losing patience with this troll.

How or why the guy hasn't been banned yet, I'm not sure.....

[Truthseeker-John]

Ts-John, have you looked at his threads?

Have you seen the timbre of his posts?

I admit I haven't taken the time to see all his threads and posts but I have looked at some.

A mere glance will tell you why the good people of LS are losing patience with this troll.

I think we have had more than a glance even on this thread alone. As you imply, we all have our limits and can only do so much but if he genuinely needs help and has a change in attitude, then hopefully we can help him.

How or why the guy hasn't been banned yet, I'm not sure.....

Perhaps it's because this is LoveShack - but until Jean-luc starts respecting the spirit of LS he's not going to get much help from us and it's now up to him as far as I am concerned.

[josie54]

That was a bit harsh skydiveaddict & Tara... .

 

I shall jump back in, but only briefly--John, I'm not sure why you're even dealing with this any longer. He can't be reasoned with because he's doing it on purpose. To call skydiveaddict and Tara harsh for calling him on it is, well, harsh!

 

He has two strategies--to give circular responses and to launch illogical invectives when it looks like the thread might die. That way, he gets people to respond to him again, so he can give more circular responses and so on. I think he's just going for a record number of posts for each thread, quite frankly--he's always trying to beat his last score. He's either playing a game, or doing experimental research for a doctoral dissertation on the psychology of online forums.

 

Please let this one go...he's not here for help. He's here for entertainment!

[jean-luc sisko]

You have no right to any Knowledge of Life because every lesson Life brings you, you reject and deflect.

How can you have knowledge of Life when you make it so obvious in all your postings that you don't want it?

Knowledge - rather like Respect - has to be earned.

it looks very much to me, and many others here, that you are incapable of earning - or learning - anything.

 

That is why you cannot have normal Knowledge of Life.

because you neither want it, nor deserve it.

 

lol... Who are to be so haughty? It is my right to have normal life knowledge. Who are you to state who has any right to anything? You lambast me for being abrasive and "bad", but you are so also if you assume some dictatorial role.

[jean-luc sisko]

That was a bit harsh skydiveaddict & Tara...

 

You see Jean-luc, good people are loosing their patience with you, because you don't want to accept what they say when they try to help. Instead you blame it on those of us who have tried to understand and help you.

 

If you are kind to us, we will be kind to you and will try to help the best way we can but you can't be expecting much help on this forum, when you twist things around and insult us because of your psychological projection.

 

If you are not a Troll Jean-luc, open up and if or when you do so, you might find that there are people that are willing to help you. Otherwise, if you are determined to play games with us, as you have been doing, we cannot help you and people will be ignoring you.

 

It is MY RIGHT to have normal life knowledge, since everybody else has it by default. Who the hell are YOU to stop me? So what if I am not "nice" to you? What will, or can, you do? I don't think you're a truly good person, since you would offer it without fear or favour. A truly good/balanced person does not cajole people into respecting them.

 

By the by, I am being rude since you people assume I should acquiese to you. State which principle this is based on. Another example of you not being nice/wholesome people.

[jean-luc sisko]

Because I am the Keeper of "Normal Knowledge of Life".

I have decided that you don't qualify.

 

Then you don't understand the norms of human life. I am nice, you are not. You deserve a punch in the face for not being so.

[Truthseeker-John]

Then you don't understand the norms of human life.

And you do?

I am nice, you are not. You deserve a punch in the face for not being so.

So who is not the nice guy on here? Edited November 18, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[Truthseeker-John]

It is MY RIGHT to have normal life knowledge, since everybody else has it by default.

We learn it from childhood, Jean-luc.

 

Who the hell are YOU to stop me? So what if I am not "nice" to you? What will, or can, you do?

Ignore you?

 

I don't think you're a truly good person, since you would offer it without fear or favour. A truly good/balanced person does not cajole people into respecting them.

People want to be your friend but you won't let them. Stop messing around, Jean-luc.

 

By the by, I am being rude since you people assume I should acquiese to you. State which principle this is based on. Another example of you not being nice/wholesome people.

State which principles of which you want to or don't want to be liked and then we might be getting somewhere. Otherwise, people are going to reject you while you waste our time and cause us a lot of bother. Edited November 18, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[jean-luc sisko]

i'll desist since you're not even presenting a reasoned argument. It is my right to hold normal human knowledge, and if you think otherwise you probably deserve throwing in the mental health slammer. It's an illogical opinion/standpoint to hold.

[jean-luc sisko]

We learn it from childhood, Jean-luc.

 

So it was my right to learn also.

Ignore you?

 

See if I care.

 

People want to be your friend but you won't let them. Stop messing around, Jean-luc.

 

State which principles of which you want to or don't want to be liked and then we might be getting somewhere. Otherwise, people are going to reject you while you waste our time and cause us a lot of bother.

 

Accept it's my right to have normal human knowledge. Please state rationally why it is not.