Citizen Erased Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I guess that is good to know you didnt spend a dime. You probably didnt have them to begin with, hence the freebie miles. But, not really your dime. Got it. I am glad you chimed in, I also have a few words for you. You have never met, things are great! Then when you do? Oh, dear. Something is not right. What kind of sick bitch would lead anyone on just to meet them only to say...meh, no worky. Fly home. Gentleman, ldr exhibit A. Never do it. The funny thing about assumptions are when people get them REALLY wrong.and yet think they know everything. And if anyone is going to be the LS ldr exhibit A, it should be me. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Sorry, but this isn't remotely close to what happened... It's kinda funny watching everyone hypothesize and come nowhere near reality, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
OceanGirl Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hokie, sorry for completely derailing your thread Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 If I have made an ass out of myself, clear it up for me. Link to post Share on other sites
GrayClouds Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Hokie, my take, you are simply a very thoughtful and emotionally aware individual. First you thought you being different to could explain the fact of the matter. Then tried to avoid the fact and choose to be a late bloomer. Then you became hard body kick a$$ Marine to cover up the fact. You may not want to hear it but the fact is; your a sensitive guy. The challange now is to accept this fact and more importantly understand your emotional intensity is not a weakness but a strength. Though it will take more intense work then either become a Marines or a hard body required. It means seeing that your sensitivity is what makes you such a loyal, insightful, thoughtful, unique and authentic person, the traits makes up your best qualities. It means simply, though not to say easily, accepting the fact you are a sensitive guy, more then most, your always going to experience things with person depth and emotions. There is be many who will not be able or want to experience life on the level you do. At time is would be easier not to be but you do not have much choice about it. And it is their loss. The more you embrace that fact and see it as something to be proud of rather then something you need to hide, everything will become a bit easier, especially when it comes to attracting the type of women that can appreciate it, hell they will even love you when you get fat. . Edited November 6, 2010 by GrayClouds Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Back to early investment of emotions Link to post Share on other sites
Jannah Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) I suspect it is because each feed off the other. I also suspect that when members are not genuinely supportive of each other, or feel that they are not supportive of the other - tension builds and is expressed in a way such as what has been demonstrated in this thread.... We're all guilty of it in some form, some more than others, some less than others. Hopefully it does not carry over into real life. I mean that is why most of us are here, to learn, grow and try to establish a relationship with ourselves first and foremost and improve and enrich our relationship with others. Edited November 6, 2010 by Jannah Link to post Share on other sites
northern_sky Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I also suspect that when members are not genuinely supportive of each other, or feel that they are not supportive of the other - tension builds and is expressed in a way such as what has been demonstrated in this thread.... . Very true. I've linked my irl best friend to a few threads on LS, and he's joked that it should be called "hateshack" or "fckedupshack." There are a lot of genuinely altruistic posters on LS. But there are also a lot of people who come here to release their sadistic urges or step on a soap box. Sometimes it's overt. More often it's underhanded and done under the guise of objectivity or sound advice. The latter is more dangerous, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
hydorclops Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Star Gazer wrote: Straight up, Hokie... you know you're misrepresenting your history. You didn't "have difficulty" in your younger years with dating and relationships. You didn't even try. You assumed no girl was interested for a myriad of reasons (some more specifically), and didn't even try to date. It's not like you were trying and failing, or having difficulty making that connection with a girl. It's not like you were an ugly duckling who bloomed into the physically beautiful person you are now either. You just didn't even try when you were younger, because of your own fears and insecurities about certain things. You've been the same person all along, it's just the past 2 years that you've had confident, assertive girls reach out to you in a way that basically and had to bash it into your head that you were in fact "worthy" of dating and a relationship. Then, and only then, did you start to "bloom." The reason I say this, is because you keep saying being a late bloomer does this to you, and that to you, and makes you feel this way and that way, when in this case that's not the case at all. You're acting like being a "late bloomer" was something that happened to you, when in reality, it was really your choice to wait until the past two years to even start trying. That choice was based on fear. I think you need to work on the root of that fear, rather than blaming nonexistent external forces. But didn't USMChokie suffer from the external forces of racism? Protecting yourself from racism isn't all about internal choices. I'm asking, not assuming. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Damn this thread got good fast. I actualy think many LS posters are good at trying to READ into and past the initial OP and in this case right or wrong they are doing what they do best trying to get to the heart of the issue. I have my own 2 cents to put in about ur most recent LS saga but I'll save that for later. I have to sit down...otherwise it goes everywhere like an f'in firehose... Let me tell you this. YOU'RE A MAN. You don't SIT while you pee. Learn to get a good stream going... in the end spraying every where and making a mess is better then sitting down. But seriously just lift the lid and get a good stream going and aim usuing one hand. Some times as a game I start walking farther and farther back (I get pretty far) and as the stream weakens I walk back toward the bowl haha. Link to post Share on other sites
Jannah Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Very true. I've linked my irl best friend to a few threads on LS, and he's joked that it should be called "hateshack" or "fckedupshack." There are a lot of genuinely altruistic posters on LS. But there are also a lot of people who come here to release their sadistic urges or step on a soap box. Sometimes it's overt. More often it's underhanded and done under the guise of objectivity or sound advice. The latter is more dangerous, imo. It's not a question of which is most "dangerous" its a question of what is helpful and what isn't. Being straight forward and brutally honest can also be undermining based on its intent and if it is done in a manner that is offensive to the person who posts their concerns on an open forum. The I am better then you approach is as equally damaging and some people respond to that harshly because it can make them feel inferior. If you can recognize it, then that is when you need to back off. Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hokie, my take, you are simply a very thoughtful and emotionally aware individual. First you thought you being different to could explain the fact of the matter. Then tried to avoid the fact and choose to be a late bloomer. Then you became hard body kick a$$ Marine to cover up the fact. You may not want to hear it but the fact is; your a sensitive guy. The challange now is to accept this fact and more importantly understand your emotional intensity is not a weakness but a strength. Though it will take more intense work then either become a Marines or a hard body required. It means seeing that your sensitivity is what makes you such a loyal, insightful, thoughtful, unique and authentic person, the traits makes up your best qualities. It means simply, though not to say easily, accepting the fact you are a sensitive guy, more then most, your always going to experience things with person depth and emotions. There is be many who will not be able or want to experience life on the level you do. At time is would be easier not to be but you do not have much choice about it. And it is their loss. I have actually heard this before...and I guess I've spent much of my life compensating for it or covering it up because it's not considered masculine... The more you embrace that fact and see it as something to be proud of rather then something you need to hide, everything will become a bit easier, especially when it comes to attracting the type of women that can appreciate it, hell they will even love you when you get fat. Hahah, this will never happen. Ever. :laugh: Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 But didn't USMChokie suffer from the external forces of racism? Protecting yourself from racism isn't all about internal choices. I never actually suffered from any external racism at all in my entire life. I was accepted by everyone...I "created" the racism within myself and assumed that because of my race, no girl would want to date me. Unfortunately, it's something that I don't know if I'll truly get over, no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't matter... So to answer your question, no, I wasn't protecting myself from anything...rather, I created something in my head that might not have ever been an issue at all... Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 It's kinda funny watching everyone hypothesize and come nowhere near reality, isn't it? Heh, slightly... Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Let me tell you this. YOU'RE A MAN. You don't SIT while you pee. Learn to get a good stream going... in the end spraying every where and making a mess is better then sitting down. But seriously just lift the lid and get a good stream going and aim usuing one hand. Hahah, I hope you know I was kidding... Some times as a game I start walking farther and farther back (I get pretty far) and as the stream weakens I walk back toward the bowl haha. This does sound fun... Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I never actually suffered from any external racism at all in my entire life. I was accepted by everyone...I "created" the racism within myself and assumed that because of my race, no girl would want to date me. Unfortunately, it's something that I don't know if I'll truly get over, no matter how much I pretend that it doesn't matter... So to answer your question, no, I wasn't protecting myself from anything...rather, I created something in my head that might not have ever been an issue at all... Not at all, not even one little bit? Even I got the Chinese eyes or was asked: "Is it true that Chinese people name their kids by dropping a spoon on the floor?" I was ashamed of my mom for many years because one girl (who was Mexican) berated me so much about her. Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Not at all, not even one little bit? Even I got the Chinese eyes or was asked: "Is it true that Chinese people name their kids by dropping a spoon on the floor?" I was ashamed of my mom for many years because one girl (who was Mexican) berated me so much about her. Not enough to care. I identify with being white more than Chinese...it's sad, I know, but "racist" remarks or jokes have never bothered me...so that might be why I was ashamed for being Asian...because I felt "white" but looked Asian, so I was always unhappy with my outward appearance because I felt like it wasn't a reflection of who I really was... Strange, I know... Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I have actually heard this before...and I guess I've spent much of my life compensating for it or covering it up because it's not considered masculine... Is that why you chose to become a Marine? The most masculine thing you could possibly do? Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Not enough to care. I identify with being white more than Chinese...it's sad, I know, but "racist" remarks or jokes have never bothered me...so that might be why I was ashamed for being Asian...because I felt "white" but looked Asian, so I was always unhappy with my outward appearance because I felt like it wasn't a reflection of who I really was... Strange, I know... I can understand what you are saying. When I was very, very young (before the girl who teased me) I was upset that I did not look more Asian, because to me I did not look like my mother or brother. Of course, my brother used it to his advantage to claim that I was adopted, and since I was born in Germany my real parents were nazis. I suppose if you are living in an all white area you would identify with being white. Although I lived in a Korean neighborhood Asians were still the minority. I went to Korean school, Korean church, shopped at Korean stores, and ate at Korean restaurants. And yet by the time I was a teenager I wanted nothing more than to be Mexican (which is the majority in my hometown). Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Is that why you chose to become a Marine? The most masculine thing you could possibly do? Hahah, absolutely not. It's because I'm awesome...and Marines are awesome...it seemed like a match made in heaven... :laugh: EDIT: And I guess I should have added the word "subconsciously" to that other post... Link to post Share on other sites
xpaperxcutx Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Not enough to care. I identify with being white more than Chinese...it's sad, I know, but "racist" remarks or jokes have never bothered me...so that might be why I was ashamed for being Asian...because I felt "white" but looked Asian, so I was always unhappy with my outward appearance because I felt like it wasn't a reflection of who I really was... Strange, I know... Oh wow Hokie, I always assumed you were SE Asian, I never knew you were Chinese... Anyways, I think this is a case of cultural identity. If you grew up in a very close knit family, your cultural identity would have came into conflict with the American in you. It's like being called a FOB or Chink and being completely unfazed by it. Because you just don't feel like you identify even though you are Asian, speak Chinese, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Oh wow Hokie, I always assumed you were SE Asian, I never knew you were Chinese... Well, Chinese Malaysian, so you are kinda correct... Anyways, I think this is a case of cultural identity. If you grew up in a very close knit family, your cultural identity would have came into conflict with the American in you. Well, I was very close with my family from an early age, but my parents realized that in order to succeed in the area where I grew up, full assimilation was necessary...so they never objected to me turning into a banana...or Twinkie... It's like being called a FOB or Chink and being completely unfazed by it. Because you just don't feel like you identify even though you are Asian, speak Chinese, etc. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
LisaLee Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Well, Chinese Malaysian, so you are kinda correct... Ahhaha, another Malaysian sensation. That explains SG's comment in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Author USMCHokie Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Ahhaha, another Malaysian sensation. That explains SG's comment in another thread. What what whaaat? There's a comment??!?! :eek: :laugh: Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hahah, absolutely not. It's because I'm awesome...and Marines are awesome...it seemed like a match made in heaven... :laugh: EDIT: And I guess I should have added the word "subconsciously" to that other post... I am still looking for a Marine lawyer to defend me when I go "over the wall" (since no army guys will). What's so great about Marines? Link to post Share on other sites
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