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I read this and thought to myself "holy ****...this is EXACTLY 100% what was going on before and AFTER the break up." My ex even told me that she wants to see what else is out there and for a month straight i begged and pleaded to no avail. I wish i would have seen this earlier because now, after i've read that for 1 minute, it's like everything has hit me now. I thank you so so so much Homebrew for writing this because it's amazing. THANK YOU

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Philomena_Pond
Pretty spot on homebrew, I was the dumper and it was VERY sudden from me.

 

She begged and pleaded for about 3 months, then for the rest of the time just repeatedly asked to meet up or be friends.

 

I didn't have any answers at the time but now I have them all (10 months later), she just messaged me recently to catch up after 1 months NC, said she would have stayed with me forever, misses me genuinely and so on. Said she would message me to make a time to have a coffee or whatever, that was 3 days ago.

 

I don't know what her motives are this time around or what it is she wants, I'm not even sure I want to find out but with human nature I'm also pretty curious.

 

You said you didn't have any answers at the time but now you have them all? Do you want to get back together with her? What are the answers?

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Philomena_Pond

So, I just realized I'm a victim of GIGS and I have been the dumper with GIGS.

 

 

I was in a relationship with a guy 7 years older than me when I was 19. We started a band together. I loved him, but he was really jealous, controlling, and father like. He wasn't like that at first, but it got worse and worse.

 

He didn't understand why I wanted to hang out with people alone without him. He wouldn't let me go to shows without him...even if he had a huge project due for his masters coursework, he would cancel to come to the show I was going to. Didn't matter if it was boys or girls...he wanted to be there.

 

He was VERY jealous. Very very loving but very jealous. I was in a band with 6 other dudes and my eyes started wandering. He would talk about wanting marriage and wanted me to move in...babies...I told him I wanted to tour and do music...he said he didn't want me to do that.

 

After 3 and a half years I broke up with him. It was a bad relationship, but honestly....I really thing it was more GIGS than anything. My eyes wandered like crazy and I hooked up with a guy after I tried breaking up with him and was unsuccessful at it. I strung him along for about 6 months until he finally flipped out and broke his door, his cell phone and punched my car out of being mentally ****ed with because I just couldn't let him go.

 

He begged and begged and begged for me to get with him. He lost all his confidence and was a puppy. When we did hang out he would shake out of nervousness. I felt terrible, but I was so confused and wasn't ready for the commitment that he was asking for. Even though I do think he was very controlling and jealous...I may have spurred that on too just by being as young as I was at the time.

 

IF he would have just let me go and let me sort myself out for a while, we may have been able to reconcile. I had so many times where I wanted to be with him so bad, but because he was just a puppy and was so desperate for me, it was impossible. It was such a burden to talk to him and he was so MEAN to me after the breakup...the things he said to hurt me were awful.

 

Seriously, if he would have just backed off and let me have a couple months to just **** around or miss him I probably would have come back. It wouldn't have worked because we were obviously wrong for each other, but I would have gotten back with him.

 

 

Now let's swap this one.

 

I'm now 27, dated a 29 yr old guy. He and I never fought (we had disagreements once in a while but we talked them out with respect), tons of passion and communication, honesty. He just got out of a really bad divorce (whirlwind marriage; eloping after 6 months, married for a year, divorce was final a year and a half ago). His ex made him change his whole life...he was a touring drummer for 10 years and she convinced him that that wasn't a "real" job and needed to quit, she really ****ed his plan and his desires up in his life.

 

So he went into therapy and dealt with some issues of his past (he has abandonment issues...musicians always have issues from childhood (i'm a musician and I know...it does come with the territory most of the time) and was really trying to heal from his ex and sort his life out. Started doing yoga, quit smoking, quit drinking as much, quit partying. A few months later he and I started talking. We hung out almost exactly one year after his divorce was final. After 6 months of amazing relationship...both of us on the same page about future, not wanting children, etc...we broke up. Out of the blue.

 

A month before he started freaking out, saying he had never thought about his future the way he was at that point and said that I made him think about his future and settling down...realizing that he wanted things in his life he hasn't gotten to yet because he was a touring drummer. He said he wanted a house and a solid career that he can work on for the rest of his life...wanted a new car and was consistently worried about being enough for me even though I would support him and tell him that I just wanted him and he didn't need to change at all or do anything different unless it was what HE wanted.

 

One day (a week before he was to go to a couple weddings and then meet my family for the first time) we got into a little fight because he went back and forth so much about going to a party that my friends were hosting that it made me over 2 hours late just to find out that he wanted to go to see a movie with his friend Ben. I was really angry because it seemed ****ed up and really out of character before. This was our first fight. It wasn't that he didn't want to go, but how he handled it that made me upset and I could tell there was something up. He said he needed to talk to Ben about Ben's cold feet with his new lady...but I had talked to Ben earlier that day and Ben was head over heels.

 

Sure enough a few hours later, we broke up. He told me he didn't know how he was feeling and why he feels anxious but feels like he couldn't go through with meeting my friends and family. I questioned his commitment and he said "i don't know what or why I'm feeling this way because you are amazing and I love you, but I just don't want these things right now" so I said "well I dont' want to be with someone who can't commit or work through this" and we broke up. After we got off the phone he sent me a text saying "we just broke up what the ****...jesus" I didn't respond. The next day I told him I was confused...he said he was too..he came over and told me he wants and sees me as his wife but he just feels like he can't do that right now. That it isn't me and that he feels so guilty because he knows I will think it is something that I did or that he isn't being honest with me but that he was and just doesn't want to hurt me. We both chalked it up to bad timing (as I was still nervous from a previous heartache too and had a LOT of work pressures on me at that time to the point where it was too hard for us to have good quality time together). In the subsequent weeks we hung out again and he could not sit closer to me. I told him he looked good and he let out this massive sigh and said his heart was racing and how beautiful I was...he pulled me into a kiss and told me he was still so confused. We talked about bad timing again and he told me he either needs me 100% in his life or 100% out and right now he can't be in a relationship so we couldn't JUST be friends so we couldn't be anything...almost exactly what you had said in the first post. He said it would hurt too much to just be half in each others lives.

 

The next week I talked to one of his friends who questioned the breakup saying he was shocked because we were so happy. I said "I broke up with him because I was scared he wasn't committed enough and he decided he wasn't so he kinda finalized the decision on it. I love him and wish things were different. I think we both just need to grow on our own. He's ****ing amazing and I love him lots." Well later on I got an angry message from him saying "are you telling people you dumped me?" then later on we talked on the phone and he was freaking out about it. When I calmed him down I asked him if he was having second thoughts and he said yes, but still wanted to move forward with his decision. I asked him to reconsider to no avail.

 

The next week he came by and picked up his stuff...very concerned how i was doing and very kind. He left me with a huge hug. Next morning sent me a message that his car smelled like my perfume because his stuff was in my room for about 6 months. I didn't respond. He saw a picture of me with a male friend at a wedding the next week, and deleted me from everything (facebook and instagram...removed the pictures I tagged him in on instagram from his profile but didn't remove the tag, still has the pictures that I posted on facebook of him and I on his profile...deleted all my friends except my sister and still has be up on gchat which was what we always communicated through when we were at work....)

 

I honestly feel like he has GIGS. It was a week before he was to meet my family and then suddenly everything got all weird. I think he freaked himself out and I know the only way I could get him back is if I give him tons of space. Yes I begged him to reconsider but I wasn't desperate about it...just told him that I feel like we are a really good match and have a future. He just said "this is my decision for now." I told him I thought he was the one and he said "then Sarah, you won't have anything to worry about...we just need to work on ourselves right now."

 

But now that he's deleted me...its so ****ed. I want him to miss me so I'm staying out of it, but we bump into each other all the time! I'm trying to avoid him and it's not working. And I live in a HUGE city area (Metropolitan Detroit)....

 

So I feel like I've been on both sides.

 

A boyfriend from a couple years ago had GIGS too, but he was physically abusive to me. It was a mutual breakup, and he came crying and crawling back to me 3 months later after a girl he dated was a raging ******* to me. He apologized and wanted to see me again and I told him no because I was in another relationship.

 

Between that guy and my most recent the thing that is different is that the most recent one was an amazing relationship. SO much love and I really wanted him to be my husband. He would tell me how lucky he was every day. I hope he figures himself out and comes back because I'm really not interested in even trying to date anyone else. We had such a deep deep connection. :o

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WOW! THIS IS EXACTLY HOW MY BU WENT DOWN!!!

I cant even believe it. When he broke it off with me, he looked so hesitant and I knew he wasnt sure of that he was doing. He told me he wants to explore and wants me to do the same. I know he loves me but he didnt say it. He probably didnt say it to push me away. We love each other so much and it came out of nowhere. I know I wanted a break, just a bit of time but I was so shocked when he ended the relationship.

 

Also I have a feeling in my gutt that he will come back and you said exactly how I feel. I feel that our love and trust is gone now. If we did meet again in the future we would have to really leave the past behind. But that's if we try to pursue it again. I'm so glad i read this part of the forum.

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Also I have a feeling in my gutt that he will come back and you said exactly how I feel. I feel that our love and trust is gone now. If we did meet again in the future we would have to really leave the past behind. But that's if we try to pursue it again. I'm so glad i read this part of the forum.

I am sure he will come, even if he does not, keep you head up and keeping searching. I am sure you are an awesome person and will find someone. Good luck with everything you do

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Thank you so much! it's just so hard when my feelings are so strong for him. Another thing is EVERYONE is happy we arent together anymore. Most of my family and friends didn't like him and didn't like the way he treated me. but there is just something about him. But you're right I HAVE TO move on

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Griesfootball

I think if two people are compatible and there was no cheating lying or abuse I think they all come back. It probably takes the dumper a couple of people before they come back. It's like they date others and compare them to you and they feel lonely when they find out they couldn't offer what they originally had. I'm not sure how long gigs last but I think it's like 6-12 months for someone to throughly look things over and realize their mistake

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Smarty Pants

Every time people break up it's GIGS. They think they can do better. I agree with some of this, but most people won't come back and won't realize their "error". In the end, putting a title on it is meaningless. The only title that should matter is "ex" or "broken-up".

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Sometimes - maybe often - the grass IS greener. Now, the original post said something about it coming out of nowhere with no good reason, but I think that's the exception. Usually there are problems in a relationship, and both people are aware of them (unless one delusional or in denial, which is surprisingly common!).

 

I initiated divorcing my ex, and quickly started dating as soon as I was separated. It didn't take long to discover the the old lawn was brown and diseased. Yes, the grass was and is greener elsewhere - or is for me.

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Ok. I am going to be 100 percent honest here because I need answers and sound advice....

 

I met my ex fiance Josh while working at a retail store. We hit it off right away and he flirted with me the whole time. However I played hard to get and after the 3rd time showing up at my job he asked me out. We had an amzing first date. He told me up front about his past (he had been abused as a child and ended up being caught with underage pornography. I know! I did my checking and I even met with his court appointed person. He gave said he was really working on his issues) I gave him a chance and so did my family. Pretty soon we had good jobs and an apartment. We were in lobe and almost a year in we seemed so blisful.

 

Yea we became comfortable around each other but we still had love. In december he asked me to marry him. I said yes right away. He even wanted to try for a baby. All this bliss and I never saw it coming....

 

One night he asked for space. I went and spent the nifht at his mothers house and that's the night he slept with some 19 year old from is work.

 

At first he begged and pleaded to stay together but I refused. Soon though he wasn't asking for that and wirh wach passing hour he was more focused on making it work with her than with me. I became a nightmare.

 

I screamed I cried. I begged. I swang between **** you and I love you at the drop of a hat. And it was only deiving them closer. I decided I'd had enough and so I made it clear to him that I wasn't interested. It was a lie but I figured I would fake it till I made it.

 

It was working. He called me without warning. He wanted to see me. He became insanely jealous if I was talking to other guys and finally one day he begged me to give us another chance. I agreeded if only he ended it with her. He saod he would. That this girl reminded him of a girl he lost back when he was younger named Lindsey.

 

He said he needed time so I gave it to him. The first thing he dkd with his time was to move her (19 year old) into his mothers house with him. He told me it was dobe and denied ever leading me on. Once again I was back at square one with absolutely no chance at redemption.

 

Now he has her answer the phone and if I do manage to get to talk to him it ends with pain because he talks about her and how he wants to make it work with her.

 

Please. I know I sound so stupid hut I want him back. We were so happy and I know we can be that again. I wish I could just read his mind.

 

I've been beaten up enough so please...be gentle

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Ok. I am going to be 100 percent honest here because I need answers and sound advice....

 

I met my ex fiance Josh while working at a retail store. We hit it off right away and he flirted with me the whole time. However I played hard to get and after the 3rd time showing up at my job he asked me out. We had an amzing first date. He told me up front about his past (he had been abused as a child and ended up being caught with underage pornography. I know! I did my checking and I even met with his court appointed person. He gave said he was really working on his issues) I gave him a chance and so did my family. Pretty soon we had good jobs and an apartment. We were in lobe and almost a year in we seemed so blisful.

 

Yea we became comfortable around each other but we still had love. In december he asked me to marry him. I said yes right away. He even wanted to try for a baby. All this bliss and I never saw it coming....

 

One night he asked for space. I went and spent the nifht at his mothers house and that's the night he slept with some 19 year old from is work.

 

At first he begged and pleaded to stay together but I refused. Soon though he wasn't asking for that and wirh wach passing hour he was more focused on making it work with her than with me. I became a nightmare.

 

I screamed I cried. I begged. I swang between **** you and I love you at the drop of a hat. And it was only deiving them closer. I decided I'd had enough and so I made it clear to him that I wasn't interested. It was a lie but I figured I would fake it till I made it.

 

It was working. He called me without warning. He wanted to see me. He became insanely jealous if I was talking to other guys and finally one day he begged me to give us another chance. I agreeded if only he ended it with her. He saod he would. That this girl reminded him of a girl he lost back when he was younger named Lindsey.

 

He said he needed time so I gave it to him. The first thing he dkd with his time was to move her (19 year old) into his mothers house with him. He told me it was dobe and denied ever leading me on. Once again I was back at square one with absolutely no chance at redemption.

 

Now he has her answer the phone and if I do manage to get to talk to him it ends with pain because he talks about her and how he wants to make it work with her.

 

Please. I know I sound so stupid hut I want him back. We were so happy and I know we can be that again. I wish I could just read his mind.

 

I've been beaten up enough so please...be gentle

 

This guy no offence, sounds like a right piece of work!! Put aside you're feelings for him for a minute and consider his shortcomings and realise that there are literally millions of guys out there that will treat you better and show you more respect. I don't know the guy obviously but what he done in the past is rather messed up and he doesn't seem to know how to treat people and this will only end bad for you. The grass will be greener for you no matter where you go.

 

Sorry for being so upfront but start considering your future and forget about his you will never be happy with someone like that only disappointed and hurt.

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Every time people break up it's GIGS. They think they can do better. I agree with some of this, but most people won't come back and won't realize their "error"..

 

IF replying to the OP, I think that's one hell of an unintentional strawman, as first off the OP outlines VERY, very specific circumstances, and second, the OP never makes it marked as a very likely possibility, just that it seems more likely than with other types of breakups, and there seems to be plenty of empirical evidence to support that idea.

 

In the end, putting a title on it is meaningless.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just like classifying different vegetables, or animals of the same family that are different, or illness that are different than others that share similarities, I don't see inherent problem with identifying this one, as it does carry a lot of uniqueness. In of itself labeling it doesn't do anything to delude anyone, that is IMO on the persons interpreting the information.

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Smarty Pants
IF replying to the OP, I think that's one hell of an unintentional strawman, as first off the OP outlines VERY, very specific circumstances, and second, the OP never makes it marked as a very likely possibility, just that it seems more likely than with other types of breakups, and there seems to be plenty of empirical evidence to support that idea.

 

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just like classifying different vegetables, or animals of the same family that are different, or illness that are different than others that share similarities, I don't see inherent problem with identifying this one, as it does carry a lot of uniqueness. In of itself labeling it doesn't do anything to delude anyone, that is IMO on the persons interpreting the information.

 

Sounds like you just like to argue with people.

 

My point is that people need to stop worrying about what their ex is thinking/feeling. It does not change the situation. For a long time, I thought it would help to understand why my ex broke it off with me. Did it make me feel better? No, not really. Did it leave me with more questions. Yes.

 

Concentrating on yourself and becoming happier in your current situation is the only thing that should matter.

 

I disagree with this post, but understand why people read it and find something from it. I think the other two pinned discussions offer much better information that this one.

 

Again my opinion.

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newenglandkid
Call it what you like. She just wants to explore more after so much time with you. You're both very young. It's quite normal to up and leave at some point. Sure fights don't encourage staying, but don't beat yourself up over it. They happen in all relationships. There's no way you could have avoided it. If it didn't happen now it'd have happened a few months down the road. I don't know anybody who stayed with their gf from HS/College until the end of their 20s. And if it wouldn't have been her it would have been you at some point to leave, it's statistically guaranteed. Don't overanalyze. Do what makes you happy, see it as an opportunity to date other girls, learn more about them and have more fun.

 

 

It's been about 5 weeks post BU and I still love and care about her. We have had LC in those 5 weeks, she keeps telling me how much she misses me and cares about me. Although come to find out she "met" some guy 2-3 weeks ago, she didn't tell me who he was so I have no idea.

 

This guy sounds like a rebound though right?

 

Do you guys think that eventually she'll come back around??

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It's been about 5 weeks post BU and I still love and care about her. We have had LC in those 5 weeks, she keeps telling me how much she misses me and cares about me. Although come to find out she "met" some guy 2-3 weeks ago, she didn't tell me who he was so I have no idea.

 

This guy sounds like a rebound though right?

 

Do you guys think that eventually she'll come back around??

 

If there's one thing I've learned, it's that it's not healthy to wait around believing that this new "partner" is a rebound that's bound to end and as soon as it does, things will be better again. Anything can happen whether it's a rebound or not. Who knows, maybe this new guy is someone she is genuinely interested in or will develop a serious relationship with. It could be that he might in fact be a rebound but that relationship will end when she finds someone she's actually really interested in. She could come back, she could not. This new person could be a rebound, or he could not. The relationship (if they're in one) could last several weeks or it could last years.

 

All I'm saying is I threw away a good portion of my time "waiting for a breakup" and imagining scenarios of when my ex would come back around. Just don't wait around. If it's meant to happen, it will.

 

I feel that G.I.G.S. has truth to it but at the same time this thread probably provides some false hope (in a sense) to some dumpees. I'm sure it's been said somewhere in the 1,000+ replies but that's what I imagine.

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Wow I wish I had stumbled upon this 2 months ago. I just couldn't believe that she would want to end a seemingly perfect relationship, and without any reason to give me at all (other than "It's just something she needs to do at this time in her life"). I don't know if I believe in categorizing BUs, but GIGS seems to be a perfect match. I suppose I'm "lucky" that she cut me off and didn't want to stay in any sort of contact with me afterwards, I guess that gives us a better chance of reconciliation in the future. I know I can't count on anything, but it's nice to have a little hope for those tough days.

 

I can't blame her for any of this. It's her happiness that she needs to look after first and foremost. We'll see what happens down the road...

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My girlfriend of 4 years woke up one day hating the world. She is beautiful, smart, and an artist. She is 20 and I am 21. One evening she called me up to meet her to "talk". She said she felt i was over bearing and jealous and wanted a break. I dont think i was out of line honestly, she had been hanging out with only guys, and they all have a thing for her...they have openly admitted it to her.

I was crushed. I gave her space...but then made the mistake of being her friend. She started to use me...i am a PhD candidate and working furiously in school. I started doing her homework, buying her gifts, taking her out...and i was oblivious to the fact that she used me. I felt that there was a new man in her life, and i asked her about it....there was. A 17 year old high school kid who looks like he is 14. I lost it emotionally though i didnt show it...returned all of her stuff and went no contact.

Before this break she was a straight a clean cut person...now she is drinking heavily, doing alot of drugs, and selling them with her new boyfriend. She is hanging around younger high school kids, who are all stoned out and jaded.

She is getting piercings and tattoos (which i dont have anything against for people that have them) but it is very unlike her.

I was so worried for her, but now i am getting over it. On top of all this she has been so mean and rude to me...posting deep secrets about me online, calling me names. I dont understand how someone changes so fast. She dropped out of school as well.

When i met her she had an eating disorder and self harm issues that i helped her with...but told her to get professional help as well...she never did. Her mother is bi polar, and has an abusive boyfriend who has beaten her and my gf and my gf's sister and niece. She is also a recovering alcoholic.

Her father is still married to her mother, and he is a well established artist so he gets a large income which the mother uses. My gf comes from a rich family, but has many problems.

i guess i am wondering if this was part of the problem? i dont understand how someone changes so fast and gets a new relationship within a day of the breakup. we had a great relationship and i sensed none of this. I have read about GIGS and maybe this applies...but as a PhD candidate, i dont have many friends haha and am busy alot so i came here for support....

to clarify...her mother is the recovering alcoholic. Also, she thinks i am trying to ruin her life by trying to help her off the drugs..but i have not contacted her for a while now. And whats the deal hanging out with high schoolers!! i mean 17 and 16 year olds...and going on campus to hang with them. Its weird. She is also posting all of her pictures of her drug habits and alcohol use on her social media...my connection to her had lost me my job on a political campaign i was working for...she has pictures of me still on her social media, not doing anything illegal, but i was let go for being associated with her. She also has alot of my belongings, and will not return them. I have returned everything to her, and she does not return my stuff. She is also wearing my clothes (which are way too big for her) which is another thing i find strange....any advice?

her new best friend (a 17 year old druggie) is being overtly annoying and threatening during all of this. I dont even know her and she is texting me angry hate texts. Her social media is all "we are so strong! we will shoot for da stars! We dont care what anyone thinks!" you know stupid high school ****...but it perturbs me to think that they believe i am stalking their social media...i looked maybe twice in the initial stages of the break up, but now have blocked all of it.

also in regard to me losing my internship..i told her for weeks after the break up to please take down the photos...and it feels like she didnt just to spite me. I honestly dont know where her anger is coming from, i treated her so well and never lost temper, cheated on her, or was negative in any way. To give light on who she was before this break, we were both yoga practitioners and she was a deeply involved buddhist. So that adds alot to the surpirse of all of this

aloha

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JimmyWeezy

My (ex) boyfriend dumped me because I was suffocating him after losing trust. And because we weren't happy (of course, since we never did anything effective to solve things, you have to WANT it and CARE). And he said he was seeing me as a friend for a while. I think he wants to independent just to make some experience since he's younger and inexperienced, but I feel like once the fun is over he might come back. He'll never find someone who can love him like I did even after all the bs. Idk, this is tough and crazy and I can't believe it happened. He also said I've been the most important person of his life, that he realized he's not the one for me, that he doesn't want me to disappear and will always love me (as a friend). Oh, and that it will be hard and terrible and he will regret this bit there's nothing better to do.

Thoughts?

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WEEZY! (george jefferson voice)

 

I know how it is. As you can tell by my previous post before yours...i am somewhat in the same boat.

Just be grateful that your ex isnt self destructing like mine is.

IF you treated him right, he will know it and feel it. Trust me...through my experience it is hard to find a girl who treat a boyfriend right, as i am sure it is equally hard the other way around.

 

Its hard now, but focus on yourself. I know it sucks, but i have been focusing on me, exercising, reading...im in great shape and kicking ass.

 

Youll be there too.

 

Just have faith in yourself:D

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WEEZY!

 

one last thing...youre never suffocating them if you lost trust. I thought i was suffocating my ex, but she lost my trust. Why then would we feel like we are over encroaching? You have every right to be concerned

The point is, the ex needs to sort out their issues, and maybe someday they will come back. But the important thing is, we have our issues controlled...we do not need to stoop to immaturity like they are.

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and just because it is a same sex breakup doesnt make it different...love is still love regardless of who you are

 

Thanks for everything you said, ESPECIALLY this last post. I felt offended that once my post was labeled as same-sex, no one bothered replying. I don't even understand the need to label it. If he dumped and he is immature, who cares if I am a boy or not. I'm heartbroken like every girl or straight guy in here.

 

Back to you, thank you so much. <3

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