My concept of God and our part in the Universe

[Truthseeker-John]

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Christians might recognize the above words taken from the bible. However, when we take away the religious interpretations of the 'Word' (Greek: Logos) it means the expression of a mind - hence it is translated as the Word.

 

I don't believe everything written in the bible but John 1:1-3 speaks about the Word which people interpret as 'Jesus' - yet if 'Jesus' existed, that would be so because we all (and everything) are (in my opinion) expressions of a great Mind.

 

We are a reflection of the whole and like our brain is, the Universe is the embodiment of a Mind and the Universe is (in my opinion) like a conscious, living organism. Even some scientists in the field of quantum physics are now finding things that suggest that this is so.

 

As individuals we are very tiny parts of the Universe which in my opinion, is like a living conscious entity which is trying to understand itself. This is why the birds sing. This is why we humans try to communicate with each other.

 

A scientist worth his salt will say that everything is made of information. My 'vision' is as follows: While information communicates with information we have attractive forces such as gravity, which bring things into existence - so stars are born and planets and life come into existence. We are a part of the whole and this is why we need to be with people and this is why we need to relate with people - it is also why it is bad for us to be isolated for very long.

 

So for me God is not a 'He' nor a 'She' but is the Universe which is the embodiment of a great Mind, which is trying to understand itself and we (and everything) are a part of that and the meaning of life is positive communication. Think about it.

 

For me, God is not a 'man' flying in the sky in "a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of cloud by day" such as according to the bible the Hebrews followed - for me God is everything - (good or bad) and it is not up to a 'man' in the sky but it is up to us to choose the good - to be trying to understand each other, hopefully in a positive way.

Edited November 27, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[Jannah]

I like your perception on the subject and I have a similar view, but, how was the universe created, aside from a scientific explanation, something had to have created it....

 

A higher power, and, I suppose that is where faith of such higher power comes into question.

[Truthseeker-John]

I like your perception on the subject and I have a similar view, but, how was the universe created, aside from a scientific explanation, something had to have created it....

Hi Jannah, one 'scientific' explanation is that our Universe came from a Multiverse but then the question is, who or what created the Multiverse? From my point of view that is the same as asking who created God - yet we creatures do exist.

 

I don't know how a Multiverse came into being (nor does any human as far as I know) - what I do know is that there is a Mind which manifests itself as our Universe and that we are all a (small) part of that Mind which is trying to understand itself and that we can help that happen by trying to understand each other.

Edited November 28, 2010 by Truthseeker-John

[Truthseeker-John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1_x2fZ5ms

[theBrokenMuse]

So many words to simply say you are a pantheist.

[theBrokenMuse]

So many words to simply say you are a pantheist.

Sorry, I read some of the stuff you wrote in other threads and I realized that the stuff I thought you were waxing poetic with in this thread, you were actually being literal about. That means the quote above doesn't apply to you after all. My apologies.

[starryeyed12]

Have you ever heard of String Theory? You should look it up. It's a little difficult to grasp, but it's facinating.

 

This video correlates and is also very cool. Part 2 has a link on the right.

 

[Jannah]

Hi Jannah, one 'scientific' explanation is that our Universe came from a Multiverse but then the question is, who or what created the Multiverse? From my point of view that is the same as asking who created God - yet we creatures do exist.

 

I don't know how a Multiverse came into being (nor does any human as far as I know) - what I do know is that there is a Mind which manifests itself as our Universe and that we are all a (small) part of that Mind which is trying to understand itself and that we can help that happen by trying to understand each other.

 

Perhaps there is no other explanation really, but that God...created God.

 

That is why, he/she IS a God!

 

It's quite interesting though, the mind, and how it ties into time and space, social perception and ultimately, religion...

 

I watched a program once on the String Theory, something I could not wrap my mind around, to difficult to grasp on a tangible plane.

[Truthseeker-John]

Sorry, I read some of the stuff you wrote in other threads and I realized that the stuff I thought you were waxing poetic with in this thread, you were actually being literal about. That means the quote above doesn't apply to you after all. My apologies.

Apologies are not needed because I do have theories which can be interpreted as Pantheist - which is a word that I hadn't heard of until recently (on the Internet). And, at the risk of being misunderstood, I will say that I do take it literally - we are all part of the same whole and if we are to make this world a better place, we need to communicate and relate in a positive way.

[exotic_angel]

Truthseeker ur theory is very logical and interesting.

 

i have been of the firm belief that god is one big universal energy as well and as stated "he breath life into us" by splitting his energy into each life form. i believed that god wanted to experience everything and that is why he created life so that he cud feel pain, love, sadness, lust.. and in a way it wud also be a way of cleansing himself by the whole hireachy of heaven and hell.

if u were a good soul then every time u re born u wud move higher up closer back god and if u were a bad soul, u'd move lower down to hell/nothingness.

i also believed in soulmates and soul ties.. that we r all connected and on a similar journey but why one child would be born wit medical difficulties and another born in a weathy home with fantastic health is a matter of the previous life they lived and based on the specific lessons they must learn or re learn.

 

so i believe in fate to a certain extent... but now, lately, i have been questioning my belief on the whole fate and god issue.

i wonder if god really is as ever loving, forgiving and kind as religion makes it out to be. i usually pray to jesus and i've been baptized.. but to be honest lately it feels like free will weighs more than fate/destiny and also, religion/god is jus a subconcious notion that we are never really alone, it's a way for society to keep control.

 

i do not.. i've been confused about the whole matter, and truth is the only reason i want to go to heaven is becase i dont want to go to hell.. i've let myself fall in love wit god, get lost in worship, believe blindly in a feeling.. but it really hasnt fixed anything.

[exotic_angel]

also, with regards to this theory... is it that we have to work for everything we want in life.. wat we sew is wat we reap or is luck and fate real???

[Disillusioned]

So... God is essentially energy in the form of a disembodied mind that pervades the Universe... sentient energy, which chooses to transform itself into matter in order to accomplish the occasional miracle.

 

And of all places in the Universe, God picked this one planet to make him/her/itself revealed!

 

This is probably not as ridiculous as I think it is... after all, how the hell are we supposed to tell whether or not energy can be sentient?

[sxyNYCcpl]

Seeker-

You need to look into the theories of Tom Campbell, the books are called My Big TOE. Essentially, he is a physicist that has been exploring the nature of reality and his thoughts are very similar to yours (and, for what it's worth, mine). Essentially, his theory is that what we experience as reality is really a virtual reality construct designed to teach us, individual packets of consciousness (who are in reality individual and part of a whole) to learn to love. At first, the idea that this reality is 'virtual' is almost laughable, but when it explains things like why the double slit experiment works as it does, why a Planck length exists, and why the speed of light is impossible to exceed it starts to make sense.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxECb7zcQhQ

 

That is a video of one of his lectures.

[Truthseeker-John]

[Truthseeker-John]

Seeker-

You need to look into the theories of Tom Campbell, the books are called My Big TOE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxECb7zcQhQ

 

That is a video of one of his lectures.

Thanks for that and I recommend that people see and hear his whole lecture.

 

He's got an IQ way above mine but I found that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMdH4W91Y0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2epiwg-QZt0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMdH4W91Y0

are particularly interesting.

Edited January 23, 2011 by Truthseeker-John

[Truthseeker-John]

So... God is essentially energy in the form of a disembodied mind that pervades the Universe... sentient energy, which chooses to transform itself into matter in order to accomplish the occasional miracle.

I would say that is a good theory.

 

And of all places in the Universe, God picked this one planet to make him/her/itself revealed!

Nope... and our Universe is a very big place. Edited January 23, 2011 by Truthseeker-John

[Truthseeker-John]

I would say that is a good theory.

.... then of course matter and energy are thought to be different forms of the same 'thing'... Edited January 31, 2011 by Truthseeker-John