Guys: thoughts on young(20's) single moms

[Green]

Good parents are heroes, alone OR in pairs. And until I walk in the shoes of another, I don't flatter myself for simply noticing their unfortunate circumstances or pretend I'd do them one better.

 

YOU raise no one and nothing, not even a good point.

 

I don't need to make a point... just look at single mothers and the statistics about them. I realize an individual person isn't a statistic but I AM LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE.

 

Some people make poor life choices, sure but what does that have to do with the growing list of types of people who disgust you and their commonalities? All I was commenting on was that common link I noticed between them. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Tell me something. Why do you argue with me when I get grossed out by FAT people or Single mothers and WOULD NEVER DATE them... not to mention I find them a blight on society.

 

I realize that people don't necesarily want to be fat or a single mother but they make every choice which leads in that direction.

[theBrokenMuse]

Tell me something. Why do you argue with me when I get grossed out by FAT people or Single mothers and WOULD NEVER DATE them... not to mention I find them a blight on society.

 

I realize that people don't necesarily want to be fat or a single mother but they make every choice which leads in that direction.

I wasn't arguing with you about what you should want or believe is attracted or who you should want to date or bang. It was a mere mention of how judgmental and disdainful you are about anyone who falls outside the scope of your personal preferences or ideologies. You are disgusted by single mothers, poor people, fat people, you have equated people being attracted to things you are not as sexual deviants or losers or akin to child molesters... and I am sure that is very the tip of the iceberg. So basically I was stating that in essence you seem to harbor ill feelings for anyone and everyone who is not a carbon copy of YOU.

Edited December 9, 2010 by theBrokenMuse

[Woggle]

Not all single mothers are bad people or are to blame for fatherlessness. There are plenty of good ones but Fourth Planet does have a point when he says that men get all the blame while women who do contribute to the problem never get the focus. Both genders play a part in the family problems we see today and the solution is up to both genders. Can everybody reasonably agree with that?

[112233]

Not all single mothers are bad people or are to blame for fatherlessness.

 

Good point, I'm mostly talking about those who choose to have a child out of wedlock and then expect others to pick up the slack either directly or indirectly. I personally know a woman who ended up as a single mother of six, ages 2 to 18, because her loving, hard working and faithful husband was murdered on the way back from a fishing hole by a drunk driver.

 

Clearly this is the sort of situation that public assistance is most appropriate for, but sadly when you open the barn door ALL the horses want in.

 

On the other hand, it would have been wise for her loving, hard working and faithful husband to carry a few million in life insurance. I know that during the times when I had others depending on me I always did, and in fact even though I'm not supporting anyone else directly at the moment I carry about $500K in coverage just because it's a good thing to do.

 

In her case, she would have never been destitute, my parents, siblings and the hundreds of other friends of the family would never have let this family want. Perhaps this is the best form of welfare, acting locally, charity starting at home.

 

I know I come across like a hard ass, but in fact when I am traveling in developing nations, I'm the guy who can't resist giving money to old people who need food. I just object to it being taken at gunpoint. I object to it being given to people who should support themselves. I object to being forced to pay for others bad choices.

[Green]

Good point, I'm mostly talking about those who choose to have a child out of wedlock and then expect others to pick up the slack either directly or indirectly. I personally know a woman who ended up as a single mother of six, ages 2 to 18, because her loving, hard working and faithful husband was murdered on the way back from a fishing hole by a drunk driver.

 

Clearly this is the sort of situation that public assistance is most appropriate for, but sadly when you open the barn door ALL the horses want in.

 

On the other hand, it would have been wise for her loving, hard working and faithful husband to carry a few million in life insurance. I know that during the times when I had others depending on me I always did, and in fact even though I'm not supporting anyone else directly at the moment I carry about $500K in coverage just because it's a good thing to do.

 

In her case, she would have never been destitute, my parents, siblings and the hundreds of other friends of the family would never have let this family want. Perhaps this is the best form of welfare, acting locally, charity starting at home.

 

I know I come across like a hard ass, but in fact when I am traveling in developing nations, I'm the guy who can't resist giving money to old people who need food. I just object to it being taken at gunpoint. I object to it being given to people who should support themselves. I object to being forced to pay for others bad choices.

 

This isn't a thread about widows... its about "single moms" which to me means a mother who is raising her kids alone with no help from a man.

 

This thread would probably be called what do you think of "widows" if thats what its about. I feel widows are a different situation all togather.

 

yes a widow is a single mother but not in the sense I must assume this thread is talking about. Think mother who was most likely NEVER married and if she has more then one child they are from more then one father who is abasent

[112233]

This isn't a thread about widows... its about "single moms" which to me means a mother who is raising her kids alone with no help from a man.

 

Since I'm not the OP I don't think I can say what "the thread is about", but I wanted my position to be clear.

[Green]

Since I'm not the OP I don't think I can say what "the thread is about", but I wanted my position to be clear.

 

The OP says "Guys: thoughts on young (20's) single moms" "how do you feel about dating us"

 

I don't think she was refering to young 20's widows with children. In fact I put that in a different category. Yes they are a single mother in the TRUEST sense... but this thread is about people who have no father in their childrens lives for other reasons

[112233]

The OP says "Guys: thoughts on young (20's) single moms" "how do you feel about dating us"

 

I don't think she was refering to ....

 

Since I'm not the OP I don't think I can say what "the thread is about", but I wanted my position to be clear.

[Untouchable_Fire]

In her case, she would have never been destitute, my parents, siblings and the hundreds of other friends of the family would never have let this family want. Perhaps this is the best form of welfare, acting locally, charity starting at home.

I know I come across like a hard ass, but in fact when I am traveling in developing nations, I'm the guy who can't resist giving money to old people who need food. I just object to it being taken at gunpoint. I object to it being given to people who should support themselves. I object to being forced to pay for others bad choices.

 

The current system is totally unsustainable. The national debt is what? 14 trillion? I can't even imagine that number. How are those idiots planning to pay that back?

 

I'm sorry, the single moms who deserve public assistance are just overwhelmed my the hordes just leeching off the system.... and these udders are now dry.

 

We can no longer give help to those who deserve it... because those who don't have stolen it.

[USCGAviator]

I'm a single dad and definitely would consider dating a single mother. That really doesn't bother me.

 

However....It is important to me that she can financially take care of herself and her child/children without help, as I do with mine.

[Green]

I'm a single dad and definitely would consider dating a single mother. That really doesn't bother me.

 

However....It is important to me that she can financially take care of herself and her child/children without help, as I do with mine.

 

Good luck finding a single woman (without kids) that can take care of herself financially with out help... haha I kid I kid... no I'm seriouse

[USCGAviator]

Then childLESS women it is lol

[Green]

Then childLESS women it is lol

 

haha you got to admit something about a childless woman is just hotter then a woman with children... I think it could have something to do with children not being there

[USCGAviator]

Then again at my age (30) I see some childless women that don't surprise me that their childless.

 

Who am I to judge......I have a beautiful 18 yr old chasing me....yikes!! What to do?

[Mutant Debutante]

Good luck finding a single woman (without kids) that can take care of herself financially with out help... haha I kid I kid... no I'm seriouse

 

Dude, aren't YOU unemployed and kinda living off your girlfriend? Meanwhile I support myself and my two sisters. Maybe you need to think before you type.

[Green]

Dude, aren't YOU unemployed and kinda living off your girlfriend? Meanwhile I support myself and my two sisters. Maybe you need to think before you type.

 

I'm technicaly unemployed, yet I still make more money then my gf. Case and point I made 200+ dollars for under an hours work yesterday. She couldn't afford to take care of me and I don't live off a dime she makes. Quite the oposite really, we share a town home and I know she couldn't afford it without my help.

[samspade]

I'll be brutaly honest chuquita, but once you got kids, yo sexual market value is almost zero. Unmarried beetches with kids = hoes.

 

Agreed.

 

A single mom is someone who's been knocked up, probably by an uncaring Alpha, who is now looking for a needy Beta provider to help clean up the mess.

 

Any woman who scores a man in this situation has hit the evolutionary jackpot. She's not only farmed out her eggs to the right man for reproduction, but she's found the right OTHER guy to provide for her and junior.

 

There are plenty of young horny childless women out there. Don't play with fire.

[sally4sara]

Yo, I gotta shout out to all you younger dudes - stay the eff away from shawties with kids. Fawk that. They always use their kids against you so they can control yo ass. You be the lone person against her and all her kids, yo ass will be outnumbered, and bitch can get her kids to lie for her to tha po-lice. Single moms almost always = nasty stretched out hoes.

 

As fo the OP, this girlie-girl thinkin she deserves a man just cuz she got a puzzy, and a stretched out one at that.

 

I'll be brutaly honest chuquita, but once you got kids, yo sexual market value is almost zero. Unmarried beetches with kids = hoes.

 

That it is something to keep in mind for you in your relationships in regards to dealing with the cops says a lot more about you than it does about single mothers in general.

 

I sure never needed my kid to lie to the cops for me - my relationships don't involve reasons to have the cops involved.

[Mutant Debutante]

Good luck finding a single woman (without kids) that can take care of herself financially with out help... haha I kid I kid... no I'm seriouse

 

Dude, aren't YOU unemployed and kinda living off your girlfriend? Meanwhile I support myself and my two kid sisters. Maybe you need to think before you type.

[sally4sara]

Homieboy Instructional 101: How to not get caught out being a trashy violent homieboy when laying up in some shawty's house.

 

Step 1: Make sure she gots no kids to rat you out to the cops

Step 2: Yell at her alot so she gets real use to you being an ass before you start smacking her around for telling you to get out of her house

 

Please .

 

If you can't act right and have a relationship that doesn't involve domestic violence calls then you're right, you should absolutely be avoiding women with kids. Because one glaringly obvious thing here in your story is that this crap isn't happening at your home. If it was, you could toss them out before they have a reason to call the cops.

 

Glass houses homieboy. You really showed your ass with this story.

[112233]

I'm technicaly unemployed ...

 

If I only had a dollar for every time I've heard that, I could be retired, particularly if I got another dollar for everyone who can spell technically. Only one dollar for you I guess.

 

It's fine for a young fella to be "lightly employed" but to live with a woman and have her picking up part of the bills seems sort of weak. Some people would argue that a 'true alpha' male will have women supporting him, so I guess there is room for dissent there.

[AT-AT28]

Don't want kids. Never have, sorry, no go here.

[frizzo]

- their husband/ partner buggered off (and its not just women who don't take "parenthood seriously" lots of daddy deserters out there)

 

I'm certain these women also made sure to tell the men how much they were appreciated and how valuable and important fathers are huh? No doubt these men felt they were important and necessary and weren't just told when they did things wrong and how stupid they were. From your point of view, I'm sure that every man is treated like a valuable, important, and deeply loved part of a family unit and still inexplicably decides to "bugger off" all the same.

 

- their husband/ partner cheated on them (should people really stay in an unfaithful R "for the kids"?)

 

And of course being a frigid shrew has absolutely no effect on this right? The ONLY thing men need from women is sex, and yet women somehow feel when they deny this to men that men are somehow jerks for getting it elsewhere?

 

- their husband/ partner died

 

Yes of course, the number of 20 somethings with deceased partners is sky high! With the epidemic of men dropping dead in their 20's it's amazing we don't have even more single mothers in this age group.

[Mme. Chaucer]

And of course being a frigid shrew has absolutely no effect on this right? The ONLY thing men need from women is sex, and yet women somehow feel when they deny this to men that men are somehow jerks for getting it elsewhere?

 

Well, aren't you just a breath of fresh air. What a great contribution to the discussion.

[AT-AT28]

 

Yes of course, the number of 20 somethings with deceased partners is sky high! With the epidemic of men dropping dead in their 20's it's amazing we don't have even more single mothers in this age group.

 

 

 

Ummm, your forgetting the military relationships.