Guys: thoughts on young(20's) single moms

[frizzo]

Ummm, your forgetting the military relationships.

 

Actually, I'm not. 5,000 men (give or take) over a decade in a nation of 300 million is hardly an epidemic. And the thread is titled "Single moms" not "Widows."

[Mme. Chaucer]

Actually, I'm not. 5,000 men (give or take) over a decade in a nation of 300 million is hardly an epidemic. And the thread is titled "Single moms" not "Widows."

 

A widow with children is a single mom.

[sally4sara]

I ain't no violent man, only as I says, womyns could call even if ya disagree with them.

 

Translation:

 

When I start yelling and arguing with you in your home, you better not ask me to leave. I will refuse to leave and keep yelling until you have to call the cops.

 

People don't call the cops to other people's homes, Homieboy. Not unless they're trapped inside by someone who won't let them leave.

[frizzo]

A widow with children is a single mom.

 

Of course. A dog is an animal but how often does one refer to their dog as an animal. I cannot help but think that widows would self-identify as such given the (appropriate) stigma attaching to single mothers.

[theBrokenMuse]

And of course being a frigid shrew has absolutely no effect on this right? The ONLY thing men need from women is sex, and yet women somehow feel when they deny this to men that men are somehow jerks for getting it elsewhere?

Yes, we all know that no man in the history of the world has ever wanted love or a romantic partnership and I am certain that no guy has ever been utterly devastated by losing his girlfriend or partner since women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina. I am also sure that every male in the history of the world has only chosen to cheat as a last resort because he had a frigid wife.... No intellectual dishonesty or gross exaggerations here folks, no siree.

[sweetjasmine]

Well, aren't you just a breath of fresh air. What a great contribution to the discussion.

 

Yeah, really, and here I was thinking this thread couldn't really get that much worse.

 

It's neat how there are so many men out there intent on trying to prove to everyone that every man is a complete pig and total piece of garbage that should be avoided at all costs. Thanks for all the tips, bitter fellas. I'll be sure to tell all my female friends how horrible men are so they can stop sleeping with you.

[theBrokenMuse]

so they can stop sleeping with you.

According to Rizzo they already have, those frigid beyatches!

[AT-AT28]

I sometimes wonder why so many gay and lesbians are showing up in modern society. I sometimes feel its because we simply can't stand and deal with the opposite sex anymore. Can't say I blame em.....

[Woggle]

Yeah, really, and here I was thinking this thread couldn't really get that much worse.

 

It's neat how there are so many men out there intent on trying to prove to everyone that every man is a complete pig and total piece of garbage that should be avoided at all costs. Thanks for all the tips, bitter fellas. I'll be sure to tell all my female friends how horrible men are so they can stop sleeping with you.

 

Aren't you being just as bad as the misogynists you are against?

[theBrokenMuse]

I sometimes wonder why so many gay and lesbians are showing up in modern society.

It's likely they've always been there in larger numbers. They were just in hiding because of the vast consequences it would have had, should anyone find out.

[theBrokenMuse]

Aren't you being just as bad as the misogynists you are against?

It was deadpan, not a serious thought.

[Mutant Debutante]

I'm certain these women also made sure to tell the men how much they were appreciated and how valuable and important fathers are huh? No doubt these men felt they were important and necessary and weren't just told when they did things wrong and how stupid they were. From your point of view, I'm sure that every man is treated like a valuable, important, and deeply loved part of a family unit and still inexplicably decides to "bugger off" all the same.

 

 

Here's a newsflash, Jack: while it totally sucks if the guy feels like the woman doesn't love him or the relationship isn't working out or she's a big meanie or whatever, all that really gets him in this discussion is a tiny violin. It doesn't mean it's okay for him to ditch his kids.

 

There are plenty of relationships where women feel undervalued by their partner, or are abused. It's not okay for those women to abandon their children, either...and way fewer of them do, statistically.

[Untouchable_Fire]

There are plenty of relationships where women feel undervalued by their partner, or are abused. It's not okay for those women to abandon their children, either...and way fewer of them do, statistically.

 

Children are rarely abandoned because they represent financial benefits. A single mom working for minimum wage with 1 child can receive enough benefits due to support, government aide programs, and tax rebates to give her more disposable income than a single man making 60,000 a year.

 

Not to say some don't care for their kids. It's just logical to keep them whether you like them or not.

[soxfan1032]

I just exited a relationship with a 44 yr old divorced mother of 2. A 21 yr old daughter and a 7 yr old son. Kids have different dads but both were pretty much raised by her ex husband. The daughters dad walked out before she was born.

Both the kids are extremely spoiled. The daughter calls herself Princess so that should give you a clue. The 7 yr old is given whatever he wants by his dad and the Mom tries to keep up but doesnt have the resources. She was scared the kid will want to go live with daddy because he gets everything he wants.

We had major philosophical differences about child raising. The 7 yr old would fight his mom on everything, eating dinner, taking a bath, brushing his teeth, everything was a battle. I could say nothing. But i sure had to listen to it.

There is nothing in it for a guy to date or gosh forbid ever marry a woman with kids. The only exception would be if they were grown and out of the house and peferably lived far away.

One last thing not mentioned is having the ex dad to deal with. Loads of fun. He doesnt want you around his kids, he doesnt want you fing his ex even though he cant stand her. And many times he will try to f her just for kicks . And many times the woman will go back to them because they want that original family fantasy back together.

My ex is back sleeping with her ex husband, the one who cheated on her.

It's no win for us guys. Guys with no other options get stuck with women with kids.

[frizzo]

Yes, we all know that no man in the history of the world has ever wanted love or a romantic partnership and I am certain that no guy has ever been utterly devastated by losing his girlfriend or partner since women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina. I am also sure that every male in the history of the world has only chosen to cheat as a last resort because he had a frigid wife.... No intellectual dishonesty or gross exaggerations here folks, no siree.

 

Notice I said NEED not want - women (at least in the modern sense) have nothing to offer men except the potential seizure of half his assets and decades of alimony and child support. While men desire deep connections with women, in the modern world such desires are merely delusions that result in destruction. Women do not offer men anything - they are nothing more than a drain on time and resources. The ONLY thing they have to offer is sex - that said, a prostitute (the only HONEST type of women) seen twice a week is MUCH cheaper than a wife or girlfriend over the long haul. Stay single men - only slavery, bankruptcy and destruction await you!

[Stung]

Children are rarely abandoned because they represent financial benefits. A single mom working for minimum wage with 1 child can receive enough benefits due to support, government aide programs, and tax rebates to give her more disposable income than a single man making 60,000 a year.

 

Not to say some don't care for their kids. It's just logical to keep them whether you like them or not.

 

 

Are you serious? You really think that the main reason most of the women in the world don't abandon their children is because they want to use them as a meal ticket?

 

Do you have any idea how much kids cost, and how much work they are, and how hard it is to raise them by yourself?

 

You need some help, man.

[AverageJoe]

What is really interesting to me is, some of the females that participated in this thread seem to find it completely unbelievable that many men do not want to date single moms. Why is this so hard to believe? Its generally true. Is it denial?

Is the fact that there are a few willing men that are desperate enough to go out with a single mom an overwhelming encouragement of hope, that the reality of the truth doesnt really matter?

 

Way earlier in this thread I mentioned that even the small sample of responses in this thread prove it. Since then there has been more evidence of it. Of course, that was dismissed as simply my opinion. Apparently there are many that share my opinion.

 

Yes, we all know that no man in the history of the world has ever wanted love or a romantic partnership and I am certain that no guy has ever been utterly devastated by losing his girlfriend or partner since women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina. I am also sure that every male in the history of the world has only chosen to cheat as a last resort because he had a frigid wife.... No intellectual dishonesty or gross exaggerations here folks, no siree.

 

Sure, after they have already had sex with you. The majority of mens ultimate goal is sex. Dont believe me? I will ask you the same question I have asked here on these forums before.

 

Next time you meet a guy you are interested in. You tell him you will never have sex with him. Ever.

Then report back and tell me how far you get after that. The odds will not be very high, I can tell you that.

[theBrokenMuse]

Notice I said NEED not want - women (at least in the modern sense) have nothing to offer men except the potential seizure of half his assets and decades of alimony and child support. While men desire deep connections with women, in the modern world such desires are merely delusions that result in destruction. Women do not offer men anything - they are nothing more than a drain on time and resources. The ONLY thing they have to offer is sex - that said, a prostitute (the only HONEST type of women) seen twice a week is MUCH cheaper than a wife or girlfriend over the long haul. Stay single men - only slavery, bankruptcy and destruction await you!

Oh, I am sorry. I didn't realize you currently resided in a oversimplified caricature fantasy land that had reduced the entire male population to eternal victimhood status en mass by an embodiment of evil so profound that Cthulhu himself would have been overshadowed by the sheer ruthlessness of these vagina wielding, maniacal sadists. I was trying to talk in terms of, you know, actual reality. Please continue on, I like reading fiction.

[frizzo]

What is really interesting to me is, some of the females that participated in this thread seem to find it completely unbelievable that many men do not want to date single moms. Why is this so hard to believe? Its generally true. Is it denial?

Is the fact that there are a few willing men that are desperate enough to go out with a single mom an overwhelming encouragement of hope, that the reality of the truth doesnt really matter?

 

Way earlier in this thread I mentioned that even the small sample of responses in this thread prove it. Since then there has been more evidence of it. Of course, that was dismissed as simply my opinion. Apparently there are many that share my opinion.

 

 

 

Sure, after they have already had sex with you. The majority of mens ultimate goal is sex. Dont believe me? I will ask you the same question I have asked here on these forums before.

 

Next time you meet a guy you are interested in. You tell him you will never have sex with him. Ever.

Then report back and tell me how far you get after that. The odds will not be very high, I can tell you that.

 

Amen Brother! The only reason men even speak to women at all is because we have a genetic weakness (testosterone). If it were not for our hyper-active sex drive, women would not get any attention from men whatsoever. Let's at least be honest shall we?

[frizzo]

Oh, I am sorry. I didn't realize you currently resided in a oversimplified caricature fantasy land that had reduced the entire male population to eternal victimhood status en mass by an embodiment of evil so profound that Cthulhu himself would have been overshadowed by the sheer ruthlessness of these vagina wielding, maniacal sadists. I was trying to talk in terms of, you know, actual reality. Please continue on, I like reading fiction.

 

Sure thing man - tell you what, go find a woman born after the feminist destruction of Western civilization and marry her without a prenup agreement - then check in with us in about 6 years and tell us how that worked out for you. Tell us how often you had sex after marriage compared to before marriage. Tell us how often you see your kids and how much of your check you get to keep post divorce.

[theBrokenMuse]

Next time you meet a guy you are interested in. You tell him you will never have sex with him. Ever.

Then report back and tell me how far you get after that. The odds will not be very high, I can tell you that.

I don't think my husband would like that.

 

We all know that a component of a long term romantic relationship is usually sex (though sexless marriages do exist) however, they aren't the only component that matters and you are dishonest for trying to pretend that it is. I know that you don't give two craps about love, emotional intimacy or companionship at all for whatever reason but that certainly doesn't mean that every man feels the same or is anything like you. Some men do enjoy having someone to love.

[theBrokenMuse]

Sure thing man - tell you what, go find a woman born after the feminist destruction of Western civilization and marry her without a prenup agreement - then check in with us in about 6 years and tell us how that worked out for you. Tell us how often you had sex after marriage compared to before marriage. Tell us how often you see your kids and how much of your check you get to keep post divorce.

Don't let the Dr. Insano avatar fool you... I am one of those non-male Satan spawns that terrorizes the males of my species with my mere existence. Run away, or the evil vagina will get you! Flee for your lives!

[Woggle]

It might not be as extreme as he says but a good portion of men who marry will end up like that.

[AverageJoe]

I don't think my husband would like that.

 

We all know that a component of a long term romantic relationship is usually sex (though sexless marriages do exist) however, they aren't the only component that matters and you are dishonest for trying to pretend that it is. I know that you don't give two craps about love, emotional intimacy or companionship at all for whatever reason but that certainly doesn't mean that every man feels the same or is anything like you. Some men do enjoy having someone to love.

 

If you noticed I didnt disagree with your previous post. What I am telling you is this. In the initial stages of a date (before anything you mentioned above) you tell him what I suggested. Odds are things wont get very far. In fact, I bet if you would have said that to your husband, there is a strong possibility you wouldnt be married right now.

 

As far as your personal accusations towards me, you know nothing of me.

[theBrokenMuse]

It might not be as extreme as he says but a good portion of men who marry will end up like that.

I honestly hope most men don't end up that broken because that level of loathing makes me not want to even walk down the street with my kids. Once you dehumanize others, you are capable of doing great harm.