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does that matter is the evaluation of what a good christian is, in your opinion?

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End of my rope
I meant that his character is much like what a christian should be

 

 

so then he's Christ like? not a Christian per se...but tries to live his life similar to the teachings of Christ?

 

 

End of my rope, that's your definition of being a christian, and you have every right to have that belief.

 

That isn't just "my" definition of being a Christian. In the American Heritage Dictonary it give the following as a definition of a Christian:

 

Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.

Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.

Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.

Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.

Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

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Originally posted by moimeme

Since elected leaders are making public policy on a wide variety of issues from stem cell research, doctor assisted suicide and homosexual marriage based on this document's contents, perhaps Christian denominations should join together with a highlighter pen and mark out the allegory from the factual for future point of reference, less we run the risk of further confusing allegory as fact.

 

How's about maybe electing leaders who don't do that???????????????????????

 

I don't vote for them, and since I'm only one vite, I frequently challenge the belief system that causes others to do so.

 

Then I'm scolded about "live and let live".

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I don't really understand either. He wants to live like Christ....yet Christ claimed he was the son of God, but your b/f does not believe that. That would make Jesus a liar....not such a good example to follow.

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Originally posted by sonofhud

I don't really understand either. He wants to live like Christ....yet Christ claimed he was the son of God, but your b/f does not believe that. That would make Jesus a liar....not such a good example to follow.

 

Excellent point.

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I seriously doubt this guy wants to become a carpenter, either. I believe the point was that the fellow in question wants to live a life of compassionate caring. Rather than pick nits about it, congratulate the guy. The world needs more people to make that choice no matter what they say they believe in.

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My boyfriend doesn't think Jesus was lying to anyone, he feels Jesus did truly believe himself to be the Messiah. It's not a big issue with him, and his atheism is not a big issue to me. There have been many people that weren't saints, but they influenced other people to live better lives.

 

I don't expect other people to always understand my own personal views on Christianity, or on other faiths. I don't think there is one flat example of a Christian life, or a Buddhist or a Muslim life. You can have your own religious beliefs and attitudes towards life.

 

I think there is room for both spiritual faith and atheism in this world. Atheists don't agree about everything. Each Christian has a personal viewpoint. Some people feel you should attend church, some feel you should implicitly follow the Bible's teachings, some feel you should be more in service to other people than prayer.

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End of my rope
Originally posted by moimeme

I seriously doubt this guy wants to become a carpenter, either. I believe the point was that the fellow in question wants to live a life of compassionate caring. Rather than pick nits about it, congratulate the guy. The world needs more people to make that choice no matter what they say they believe in.

 

I agree that more people need to be Christ-like. Regardless of their beliefs. However, as sonofhud pointed out, I don't personally see how someone can say they don't believe in God, they don't believe Jesus was the Son of God, but say..."Hey that Jesus dude was a nice guy and did a lot for the world...I think I'll model my life after him!" Then call him a liar in proclaiming to be God's only begotten Son.

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Its great that he wants to live a compassionate life....but still I don't understand why he is choosing Jesus(someone he doesn't believed he claims he was) out of numerous historical figures who lived lives of compassion. I'm just barely starting to understand what I believe, and I am very curious as to what others believe and why. I don't mean to sound negative, if that is the way my previous posts are being perceived. I consider this a learning experience and I guess that is why I enjoy coming to this forum so much.

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Originally posted by End of my rope

I don't personally see how someone can say they don't believe in God, they don't believe Jesus was the Son of God, but say..."Hey that Jesus dude was a nice guy and did a lot for the world...I think I'll model my life after him!" Then call him a liar in proclaiming to be God's only begotten Son.

(Remove the beam from your own eye...)

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