alexlakeman Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Has anyone think that we just have our destiny lined up as soon as we're born? I think Spiritism / Allan Kardec (Brazil) talks about this. I mean, if a baby is born with brain damage, what chance did he have of being born normal and living a normal life, for example? Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 normal life from everyone else's standpoint, or normal from that particular child's standpoint? Everything is relative, and everything is based on how we respond to those situations thrown at us by life. is that baby destined to have brain damage? Who knows what spurred said damage, so we (on the outside) can't honestly say. But is that child destined to be a certain way? Not necessarily, because he still has choices, based on his level of awareness/brain damage. kinda makes me think of the "are you saved" question some Christians like to ask. In a universal sense, of course we all are because we believe that Jesus died for everyone, but on a more personal level, it's more iffy because our actions reflection our belief in our salvation ... it's my destiny to be saved, but I still have to work at being saved because I'm still faced with choices to turn away from that grace. Entiendes? Link to post Share on other sites
Author alexlakeman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Some times I see how some people just say f)ck it and give up; so much work, and effort and things don't happen.. to people who might not deserve it.. so why not just right off God, fk it? .. Link to post Share on other sites
shayan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 honestly, I don't believe in the whole your life has been drawn out for you spiel. I think this world is all about free will, I think we chose to come into the bodies we have in order to learn the lessons we need in order to progress as a spirit. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 My family used to try to lay that stuff on me. If you're bred to be a menial, don't even think about any rags-to-riches life for yourself... that was their philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites
desertIslandCactus Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Well, the future spills its intangibles An unknown set of variables A path that spliten infinitely up ahead So tell me what's the use to pick and choose From what you should or shouldn't do? That's time spent better sleeping in your bed Link to post Share on other sites
Author alexlakeman Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Wtf r u guys saying? ? Link to post Share on other sites
exotic_angel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 honestly, I don't believe in the whole your life has been drawn out for you spiel. I think this world is all about free will, I think we chose to come into the bodies we have in order to learn the lessons we need in order to progress as a spirit. i have been of the firm belief that god is one big universal energy and as stated "he breath life into us" by splitting his energy into each life form. i believed that god wanted to experience everything and that is why he created life so that he cud feel pain, love, sadness, lust.. and in a way it wud also be a way of cleansing himself by the whole hireachy of heaven and hell. if u were a good soul then every time u re born u wud move higher up closer back god and if u were a bad soul, u'd move lower down to hell/nothingness. i also believed in soulmates and soul ties.. that we r all connected and on a similar journey but why one child would be born wit medical difficulties and another born in a weathy home with fantastic health is a matter of the previous life they lived and based on the specific lessons they must learn or re learn. so i believe in fate to a certain extent... but now, lately, i have been questioning my belief on the whole fate and god issue. i wonder if god really is as ever loving, forgiving and kind as religion makes it out to be. i usually pray to jesus and i've been baptized.. but to be honest lately it feels like free will weighs more than fate/destiny and also, religion/god is jus a subconcious notion that we are never really alone, it's a way for society to keep control. i do not.. i've been confused about the whole matter, and truth is the only reason i want to go to heaven is becase i dont want to go to hell.. i've let myself fall in love wit god, get lost in worship, believe blindly in a feeling.. but it really hasnt fixed anything. i would love to hear everyone else's view on this... i tink i'm gonna start a post on it again. Link to post Share on other sites
Author alexlakeman Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 So what belief follows that thought of how u lived your prior life affects your next life? Link to post Share on other sites
exotic_angel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 well i always believed in reincarnation, it seemed logical to me, that us souls are all on the same search for oneness and that the soul itself is an energy. And that in each life we live we are destined to meet certain ppl and circumstances that wud teach, test and guide us as to the specific lessons that we must learn. so therefore to that extent i believed that certain ppl r meant to come into our lives and struggles r meant to be seen as lessons in disguise, pillars for us to build upon.. build strength, courage, learn to love. but now, that whole notion feels like it was jus a reassurances, a sorta pacifier. one that i believed in because i wanted to much to believe that there is soemthing mighty and ever loving out there, from where we came from and that we all have a purpose, not jus choices but a pre determined immaculate plan. but this theory is quickly ebing replaced by my idea that we must work for anything we want and that struggles r jus struggles, we must build our castles or prisions (which ever it may be) as we walk on. wat's ur view??? Link to post Share on other sites
exotic_angel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 to be more specific.. i thought if in this life u were given certain assignments and didn't complete them, or certain lessons and didn't learn them, abuse the good tings that were bestowed upon u then in the next life u wud have to re take certain lessons and complete ur unfinsihed work.. also u wud have to suffer for the tings u abused or misused so that u wud fully appreciate them next time around. however, if u do well u will continue to move towards total oneness wit god/universe... Link to post Share on other sites
Author alexlakeman Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Based on that , if you see yourself having a f)cked up life, you might as well off yourself as "the lesson" will take your whole life; and it becomes a cycle life after life . I can't see a god alowing someone's life to be screwed up when that person has not done wrong in "the current life" and yet you have the "bad guys" living it up. Link to post Share on other sites
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exotic_angel Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 so how to you interrept our existence? what do u tink is the purpose of life? is there a heaven and hell? what happens after you die? how are we judged? Link to post Share on other sites
Author alexlakeman Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Example of Karma or God or wtf, relatively "minor": I'm driving the same road for 5 yrs, this am heading towards ball practice with my son, on time. Yesterday I send I specicifc email to everyone "BE ON time"!!!! Who gets there late? We do, we got stopped for speeding? Karma, god is pissed off, is that anything I do is bound to go wrong? Y specifically after I make a point of on time? Just ranting.Why what wrong have I done? Oh weell Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Example of Karma or God or wtf, relatively "minor": I'm driving the same road for 5 yrs, this am heading towards ball practice with my son, on time. Yesterday I send I specicifc email to everyone "BE ON time"!!!! Who gets there late? We do, we got stopped for speeding? Karma, god is pissed off, is that anything I do is bound to go wrong? Y specifically after I make a point of on time? Just ranting.Why what wrong have I done? Oh weell If you think con artists and other dishonest types believe in karma, you're better off trying out for pro football. Link to post Share on other sites
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