Did my girlfriend cheat?

[Chi townD]

It's not unreal. It's the truth.

 

If there's one fact you can take away from this thread, it's that Plan B does not "stop an unwanted pregnancy." It is not the abortion pill. It prevents pregnancy from the outset.

 

Another thing you can take away from this thread: There are all sorts of things that lessen the effectiveness of BC pills. Not taking them at the same time every day. Missing pills. Taking antibiotics. Throwing up when hungover. (Notably, there are all things that OP's GF experienced recently.) Plan B is a backup method, not just for unprotected sex or condom breakage, but for BC pill failure/ineffectiveness as well.

 

Do with that information what you will.

 

Very good and valid points. Can't Argue that. Neither should PO Then why did she say she didn't know what it was?

 

Sorry, never mind. She doesn't have to tell him.

[homebrew]

FFS. Are you reading this thread? They use condoms AND the BC pills to be extra safe. Problem is, she sometimes misses BC pills. That lessens the effectiveness of them. She also sometimes is on antibiotics. That also lessens the effectiveness of the BC pills. Combine missing the pills and antibiotics, and I can totally understand why she'd go for Plan B, even with condoms. Can you?

 

Further, clearly you don't know what Plan B is used for. Plan B does not "STOP an unwanted pregnancy." It PREVENTS pregnancy to begin with. Is that too confusing? No? Good.

 

Thank you for clarifying...

 

Star... Thanks for clarifying this too...

We're not talking about having an incurable STD versus having an ABORTION. Now if THAT was what was at issue here, the comparison would be fair. But that's not what Plan B is, people. It's BIRTH CONTROL. It's literally the equivalent of 4 BC pills on one pill. Until/unless she's pregnant, IT DOES NOT AFFECT HIM.

 

Star I am not at all trying to be arguemenitive here... Can you put aside your strong believes on this issue for a second and look at this from a male point of view for a second...

 

Do you see how much confusion all of this has caused us men... I do not think a single male on here knew or understood what his girlfriend was taking until page 15 of this thread. MEN do not know what the differences are between the pills...

 

So you stay with that thought for a minute.... please...

 

If you were a GUY like US and thought your GF just took a "oops I think I might be pregnant pill after a drunken night out" pill (remember you don't know what the REAL PURPOSE OF THE PILL IS.... LIKE THE REST OF US... UNTIL YOU EXPLAINED IT ON PAGE 15) and you found about about your GF taking said pill through other means other than your GF telling you...

 

Would it really not phase you or cause you any concern at all?

 

Now with your EXPLANATION of what the said pill really is... I understand why YOU are so defensive... It's taking birth control. Just like taking the pill every day.

[Chi townD]

But if his girlfriend comes back with some of those excuses like, throwing up the pill, taking other meds, missing a day or two. Well, it's BS because she doesn't know what it is!

[Star Gazer]

Do you see how much confusion all of this has caused us men... I do not think a single male on here knew or understood what his girlfriend was taking until page 15 of this thread. MEN do not know what the differences are between the pills...

 

I think it's ridiculous when people make judgments and leap to conclusions about things they don't understand and are indignant about it.

 

If you were a GUY like US and thought your GF just took a "oops I think I might be pregnant pill after a drunken night out" pill (remember you don't know what the REAL PURPOSE OF THE PILL IS.... LIKE THE REST OF US... UNTIL YOU EXPLAINED IT ON PAGE 15) and you found about about your GF taking said pill through other means other than your GF telling you...

 

Would it really not phase you or cause you any concern at all?

 

There's nothing in this thread that tells me that the OP didn't know what Plan B was/is and what it's for. Only you and another poster.

 

Now with your EXPLANATION of what the said pill really is... I understand why YOU are so defensive... It's taking birth control. Just like taking the pill every day.

 

I'm not defensive at all. I'm not being accused. I'm simply trying to make you all understand why she'd be taking Plan B. OP seemed to understand why she might be taking Plan B since about my second post in this thread - because she misses pills on occasion.

[Chi townD]

I'm not an idiot. I know what Plan B is.

[USCGAviator]

Why would she take a pill she has no idea what it is? Do many women do that?

[homebrew]

Oh my...

 

Star.... You can't just throw a guy a bone... (me).

 

Knowing that... Being that I am a guy... Let me throw a GUY situation at you and see how you would respond...

 

You and your BF had a wild night last night and used the last condom...

 

BF has a drunken night out on the town the next night...

 

You come over to his place and see new box of condoms in drawer... Box of condoms are open with one missing...

 

Would you ask him where the missing condom is?

[Chi townD]

No, I've been learning that one persons form of birth control is no one else's business.

[michaelhopes]

I'll probably regret this....

So what you ladies are saying is that women sometimes use Plan B as a suppliment if they feel that the regular BC pills might not be up to snuff for whatever reason....

And women generally dont discuss any of this with their man because either they are embarrassed or its none of his business or they dont want to scramble our brains with unnecessary info?

[homebrew]

No, I've been learning that one persons form of birth control is no one else's business.

 

Now that is the funniest thing I have seen all day!

[homebrew]

I'll probably regret this....

So what you ladies are saying is that women sometimes use Plan B as a suppliment if they feel that the regular BC pills might not be up to snuff for whatever reason....

And women generally dont discuss any of this with their man because either they are embarrassed or its none of his business or they dont want to scramble our brains with unnecessary info?

 

Shut your Mouth... and Know your Role!

 

I think that is what we are being told... Since I am not allowed to ask for questions... I am waiting on further instruction!

[homebrew]

Being that I am a guy... Let me throw a GUY situation at you and see how you would respond...

 

You and your BF had a wild night last night and used the last condom...

 

BF has a drunken night out on the town the next night...

 

You come over to his place and see new box of condoms in drawer... Box of condoms are open with one missing...

 

Would you ask him where the missing condom is?

 

You see Fellows... My little EXAMPLE above debunks Star's whole theory that she has been spouting off for the last 18 pages...

 

Put her in the MALE version of her contraception argument...

 

Star would HAVE NOT RIGHT AND WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO WONDER / THINK / CONSIDER and HOW DARE SHE THINK TO ASK ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

 

1. When did BF her buy the condoms?

 

2. Was it during the day... before his night out on the town? T

 

3. Did him buy them on his way home?

 

4. Did him buy them the next day after breakfast?

 

5. Where is the missing condom?

 

6. Did he use it on another girl?

 

7. Did a roommate take one?

 

8. Did he use it when he was spanking the monkey because he didn't want to soil his sheets?

 

9. Do you think Star would go looking for said used condom?

 

10 Will she look in her BF's bathroom...

 

11. They roommates bathroom?

 

12 Do you think Star would ask boyfriend when he purchased the box of condoms?

 

13. Do you think Star might want to verify that with the actual time of the purchase with the credit card slip?

 

I could go on and on... A box of condoms and one is missing... It could be a bad thing... It could be nothing... A simple question and a simple answer could clear it all up.

 

Too bad Star is not allowed to ask... She will just have to wonder / guess because it is a MAN and his contraceptives that we are talking about and that IS VERY, VERY PERSONAL and GF's have NO RIGHT TO KNOW OR ASK! PERIOD THE END!

[teardrop86]

I'm so confused. Does this mean that Plan B doesn't stop unwanted pregnancies? If she did have unprotected sex with someone on Dec. 5th and didn't buy Plan B until Dec. 7th, does this mean that she could become pregnant? Why would she lie to me about buying it? How does this change the situation that I'm in?

Edited December 30, 2010 by teardrop86

[michaelhopes]

 

Plan B One-Step™ is your backup plan—emergency contraception in just one pill. The sooner you take it, the better it works. When taken as directed—within 72 hours (3 days) after contraceptive failure or unprotected sex—approximately 7 out of 8 women who would have gotten pregnant will not become pregnant after taking Plan B One-Step™.

Plan B One-Step™ is safe, effective, and FDA-approved. It contains levonorgestrel, the same ingredient found in many birth control pills. The difference is that Plan B One-Step™ requires just one pill, which uses a larger dose of levonorgestrel than a single birth control pill. And, unlike many birth control pills, Plan B One-Step™ doesn’t contain any estrogen, only progestin.

 

Plan B One-Step™ is not RU-486 (the abortion pill)—it won’t work if you’re already pregnant, and it won’t affect an existing pregnancy.

Plan B One-Step™ is an effective backup plan, but it isn’t regular birth control and should not be used that way. It’s not as effective as other methods of birth control used consistently and correctly, so it’s important to have another reliable source of birth control that’s right for you. It won’t protect you from HIV infection (the virus that causes AIDS) or any other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).

[teardrop86]

 

Plan B One-Step™ is your backup plan—emergency contraception in just one pill. The sooner you take it, the better it works. When taken as directed—within 72 hours (3 days) after contraceptive failure or unprotected sex—approximately 7 out of 8 women who would have gotten pregnant will not become pregnant after taking Plan B One-Step™.

Plan B One-Step™ is safe, effective, and FDA-approved. It contains levonorgestrel, the same ingredient found in many birth control pills. The difference is that Plan B One-Step™ requires just one pill, which uses a larger dose of levonorgestrel than a single birth control pill. And, unlike many birth control pills, Plan B One-Step™ doesn’t contain any estrogen, only progestin.

 

Plan B One-Step™ is not RU-486 (the abortion pill)—it won’t work if you’re already pregnant, and it won’t affect an existing pregnancy.

Plan B One-Step™ is an effective backup plan, but it isn’t regular birth control and should not be used that way. It’s not as effective as other methods of birth control used consistently and correctly, so it’s important to have another reliable source of birth control that’s right for you. It won’t protect you from HIV infection (the virus that causes AIDS) or any other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).

 

How does this change the fact that I don't know why my girlfriend bought Plan B to begin with? Plan B still implies that you can take it up to 72 hours after having unprotected sex and still not become pregnant.

Edited December 30, 2010 by teardrop86

[michaelhopes]

It doesnt change anything at this point. Just more possibilities.

The ladies were saying that she might be using Plan B as a suppliment to her BC pills (I think)

I have my doubts, as do the rest of the guys

[teardrop86]

I still need to talk to her about it regardless. Thanks for the clarification.

[michaelhopes]

I still suggest that you dont tip your hand in regards to the Visa bill...ever..

Have a little discussion about Plan B perhaps....everything you need to know will come to the surface then.

Also I cant believe that if she did cheat on you that it isnt making her sick with guilt. If she is half as wonderful as you say she will spill the beans soon enough. If you determine that she is lying and she doesnt confess youve got a real creep on your hands.

Wait until Saturday and try to relax

[homebrew]

It doesnt change anything at this point. Just more possibilities.

The ladies were saying that she might be using Plan B as a suppliment to her BC pills (I think)

I have my doubts, as do the rest of the guys

 

This can all be clear up with a simple question...

 

Don't let Star throw you for a loop... If she or any other female that has walked the face of the planet was in the Female Version of your problem (Like I showed above)... You better believe she would be asking some questions.

 

She is full of crap if she says otherwise.

 

There is NOTHING I am not allowed to ask my GF and the same applies to her with me!

[michaelhopes]

Perhaps... Maybe I'm just unlucky but my experience with women has always involved double standards..

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?

Edited December 30, 2010 by michaelhopes

[FryFish]

What star has been saying about plan b is, for the most part, COMPLETE BUNK! Plan B is an EMERGENCY birth control pill! It is NOT A SUPPLEMENTAL birth control pill! It has NO PLACE being added to a BCP cycle. It doesnt start an abortion it prevents an egg from attaching to the lining. Girls take the plan B pill when they know they have ****ed up and dont want to become pregnant. The definition of a girl ****ing up is her letting a guy she doesnt want to have a kid with cum inside her. It had been way too long since teardrop had sex with her for plan B to be useful to her... He used condoms when he had sex with her anyways. She bought the EMERGENCY form of birth control about 36 hours after getting home from a drunken girls night out... Hmm... 36 hours is about half of 72 hours... so she bought the pill well within the timeframe that it would be useful for a girl who has ****ed up... and remember, in the case of the plan b pill, ****ing up is constituted as letting some guy she doesnt want to have a kid with cum inside her...

 

I wonder if maybe, on her drunken night out, she let some guy she doesnt want to have a kid with cum inside her... lol... Im just kidding, we all kNOW she did.

[Jannah]

I'd go out on a limb that 95% of the women who you use it is because of their "Indiscretions".

 

WRONG. I've used Plan B - ONCE in my lifetime, and it was with my ex fiance who I was with and faithful to for 6 years. And yes, it was because of an oopsie on BOTH our parts, so stuff it!!

[FryFish]

An "indiscretion" is simply letting someone you dont want to have a kid with cum inside you... That someone could be your SO... or anybody. In the case of the OP, we KNOW it wasnt the OP.

 

I have used Plan B several times with my SO, and it has nothing to do with "indiscretions" and everything to do with my poor timing on BC

Then you have used it incorrectly... unless by "poor timing" you mean you let your SO cum inside you at times when you simply werent using your plan A birth control method.

[Penney]

FYI - Visa, Mastercard, AMEX, Discover, etc., never print the full card number on the bill. For instance, my Visa has the first 4 and the last 4 digits with x's in between. AMEX just lists the last few digits.

 

Sooooooo, you weren't helping her avoid fraudulant charges by snooping like you did. Face it, you snooped.

 

Same was true when you snooped on the computer. You had the opportunity to snoop on her computer when you were asked to fix it, so you did.

 

OK, now that we have established that, the next question is why did you feel the need to snoop? My guess is that something has happened that caused you not to trust her.

 

As for the Visa charge, you don't know it is for the Plan B pill. What you know is that the Plan B pill costs the same as whatever was charged to her Visa card.

 

What about this scenario - her roommate/friend needed it and didn't have a charge card so she offered to pay your girlfriend cash if she would charge it on her card. What if the roommate/friend did not tell her it was called Plan B, but instead called it the morning after pill so your girlfriend didn't know it was referred to as Plan B.

[FryFish]

As for the Visa charge, you don't know it is for the Plan B pill. What you know is that the Plan B pill costs the same as whatever was charged to her Visa card.

He knows it was for the plan B pill... We will accept the fact that he snooped, who can blame him, but you have to accept the reality that the plan b pill was bought.

 

 

What about this scenario - her roommate/friend needed it and didn't have a charge card so she offered to pay your girlfriend cash if she would charge it on her card. What if the roommate/friend did not tell her it was called Plan B, but instead called it the morning after pill so your girlfriend didn't know it was referred to as Plan B.

What if the moon was just an optical illusion and we never planted a flag on it?