northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) ...about how hard it is for them to get laid. Boohoo hoo. (I am female btw.) While women as a whole are less easy than men, there are loads of sluts happy to avail their male counterparts at the local pub on a Saturday night. I live in a city with an girl's college, and you should see how aggressive some of these young ladies get. I know plenty of guys who are totally average and can easily find free sex if they want it on a given night. If a guy is at all attractive, he can have a field day. Online dating is another easy way for guys to fill their nights with passion. My ex is average looking, and he put about two minutes into his OKC profile. The second girl he met in person was begging him for butt sex on their first date. My point is sex is easy to get for most people. It's LTRs with desirables that are more elusive. A lot of people aren't interested in random screws. Edited January 5, 2011 by northern_sky Link to post Share on other sites
deebeechrisyo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So what is holding these guys back then? Also, all of those vast quantities of sluts are still only going after attractive men. I don't disagree with your view on guys who bitch on this board. A lot of them I'm sure are bitter that they don't attract female attention. However, some of them are bitter because they were screwed over many times in the past. Really though, it's the internet. These guys could easily be fcking around at your expense, trying to get a rise out of people. All the super pimps on here could just as easily be living in their mom's basement acting out their fantasies. Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 So what is holding these guys back then? Also, all of those vast quantities of sluts are still only going after attractive men. I don't disagree with your view on guys who bitch on this board. A lot of them I'm sure are bitter that they don't attract female attention. However, some of them are bitter because they were screwed over many times in the past. Really though, it's the internet. These guys could easily be fcking around at your expense, trying to get a rise out of people. All the super pimps on here could just as easily be living in their mom's basement acting out their fantasies. Who knows. These are guys I know in real life and trust. Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Truly, from what I've observed, it's not that hard for a guy to get laid (in general, not necessarily with who they might want) if he possesses even 1 of the following: *Good looks *Charisma *Wit/verbal talent/smooth talker/funny *Money/high-powered job *A good amount of effort Even men without those can still get laid if they go to the right place, where people are drunk and lonely, and they have relatively low standards. But the issue I have with this whole line of whining is that they act like men NEED to get laid or they'll wither up and die or something. Link to post Share on other sites
ivalm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 These are guys I know in real life and trust. Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept. It's possible to find OK looking slutty girls in bars/pubs but I don't think this is true of OKC. I also agree that LTR are both infinitely more valuable and MUCH harder to find. Although I now have a date with a girl who might just turn into one Anyways, on OKC I didn't give too much effort but the only desperate girls I found were the ones who would message me and most of them looked heavier than me.. and I'm about a foot taller than them. So at the end of the day, even for a one night stand, not something I approve, I think one has to go to a pub and buy lots of drinks -- no such thing as free cheese, or sex, in this case. That, again, if you have ANY standard. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Unfortunately, I didn't experience this feast when I was younger. And I'm too old to go running around some college town. I try not to complain here though. It's not that I can't get a date. Been taking a break after a major catastrophe and just like LS for convo. No boo-hoo for me please. Trouble for me was that I had to work instead of college and then fit college in well after. And boy did I work. I had to commute 3 hours at the same time. I didn't realize what I'd be missing in the sex department by not going to college at 17 like most others but even at that I don't think my family could have sent me to college since I had seven younger sibs and my parents were on society's low income rung. College seems to be girls and guys gone wild these days. Maybe it was when I was 18 too but no one was there with a video camera. NY is not much of a college town unless you're in college. A smaller city where the college is part of what makes it a city is a much better place to sow some wild oats. Borderline complaining--but about my past, not my present. Link to post Share on other sites
deebeechrisyo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Truly, from what I've observed, it's not that hard for a guy to get laid (in general, not necessarily with who they might want) if he possesses even 1 of the following: *Good looks *Charisma *Wit/verbal talent/smooth talker/funny *Money/high-powered job *A good amount of effort Even men without those can still get laid if they go to the right place, where people are drunk and lonely, and they have relatively low standards. But the issue I have with this whole line of whining is that they act like men NEED to get laid or they'll wither up and die or something. Psychological walls built up inside a man will nullify ALL of those traits you listed. Believe me, I was there for a while. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If sex is so easy to get, why do many people go without it for long periods of time? Link to post Share on other sites
deebeechrisyo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If sex is so easy to get, why do many people go without it for long periods of time? They have standards. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Psychological walls built up inside a man will nullify ALL of those traits you listed. Believe me, I was there for a while. Oh, I believe you. If sex is so easy to get, why do many people go without it for long periods of time? Because they can't have sex with the person or kind of people they want. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 They have standards. I'd like to think that most do have standards. I certainly do. But, I think the OP is trying to stir something and there have been several similar threads over the past week. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Are we really separating guys who want relationships from guys who just want immediate sex in this discussion? I'm not sure who the offending parties are that bitch. I do know that some of my fellow men here on LS are not happy without the similar "connections" that women often value here as well. Going out and landing a drunken slut does nothing for me. Most times both parties regret what happened when sober. It's not an ego boost to man handle a drunken out-of-control bim. The only real boost comes from, you guessed it, connection leading to acceptance and affections. How to get there without passing the gin mill and meaningless sex is the question. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Are we really separating guys who want relationships from guys who just want immediate sex in this discussion? I'm not sure who the offending parties are that bitch. I do know that some of my fellow men here on LS are not happy without the similar "connections" that women often value here as well. Going out and landing a drunken slut does nothing for me. Most times both parties regret what happened when sober. It's not an ego boost to man handle a drunken out-of-control bim. The only real boost comes from, you guessed it, connection leading to acceptance and affections. How to get there without passing the gin mill and meaningless sex is the question. Well, that's just as hard for women as it is for men. I agree wholeheartedly that women have absolutely no problem landing some meaningless sex any day they want, but a guy for a LTR who you connect with? Well, that's rare. For us, and for men, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverLining Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Honestly, I run with some very good-looking girls and attractiveness is NOT the number one. If a guy is decently attractive it's great, but even if he's not and our friends are wondering what the heck our friend is doing with some ugly guy... if 5 minutes into conversation with him we're taken aback at his charisma, his kindness, his openness, his personality in general we're feeling like our friend scored big time. Attractive people are a dime a dozen in a big city like Chicago. But a kind person with a sense of humor, who is social and has a good personality, is rare. My attractive male friends get the hookup easily, but not by any girls they actually like or want to have a relationship with. They often are going from girl to girl, feeling lonely and wishing for a relationship but finding the girls that they go after are shallow and uninteresting. My less attractive male friends have better luck finding relationships and usually end up with girls they respect more. Finally, the really unattractive guys that are social and have great personalities ended up with lots of friends and eventually great relationships with some great girls. The ones who didn't work on their personalities just sit and complain about women. They bring it on themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Unfortunately, I didn't experience this feast when I was younger. And I'm too old to go running around some college town. I try not to complain here though. It's not that I can't get a date. Been taking a break after a major catastrophe and just like LS for convo. No boo-hoo for me please. Really? I had the impression from your posts and number of past partners that you were quite the lady's man. A smaller city where the college is part of what makes it a city is a much better place to sow some wild oats. Borderline complaining--but about my past, not my present. Yes, I live in a male heaven, so that may be skewing my perception. Given the male to female ratio being what it is, average guys are swarming in hot women, while girls have difficulty pinning a guy down for more than a ONS or FWB. My gorgeous roommate recently broke up with her shleppy bf because he couldn't commit. Link to post Share on other sites
810 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Psychological walls built up inside a man will nullify ALL of those traits you listed. Believe me, I was there for a while. Sad but I do agree. I have seen it happened to some of my friends, both males and females. Bad/unfortunate experience/event can mess a person up really bad. Bitterness and self-pity, they are not a place or state of mind to be in. I was there once. Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 These are guys I know in real life and trust. Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept. Have you ever considered that they just lack confidence? I've seen grossly unattractive men get women because of confidence. I've also seen good looking guys with grossly unattractive women... because they lack confidence. One of my friends is a nice guy. He is average looking and chubby... maybe 30-40lbs overweight. His wife is so big she struggled to get into my car!!! I don't think he likes that... but just never had the confidence to try for someone else. Link to post Share on other sites
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Well, that's just as hard for women as it is for men. I agree wholeheartedly that women have absolutely no problem landing some meaningless sex any day they want, but a guy for a LTR who you connect with? Well, that's rare. For us, and for men, I think. This. I've found it's easy as a girl to find attractive, intelligent, interesting young guys who want a casual relationship. So much harder to find serious relationship people. Link to post Share on other sites
ivalm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Yes, I live in a male heaven, so that may be skewing my perception. Given the male to female ratio being what it is, average guys are swarming in hot women, while girls have difficulty pinning a guy down for more than a ONS or FWB. My gorgeous roommate recently broke up with her shleppy bf because he couldn't commit. Sorry, but I have to ask, where are you from? My campus is filled with socially awkward boys and girls. I mean, I'm by no means a player but damn so many around me are much more clueless. Link to post Share on other sites
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Are we really separating guys who want relationships from guys who just want immediate sex in this discussion? I'm not sure who the offending parties are that bitch. I do know that some of my fellow men here on LS are not happy without the similar "connections" that women often value here as well. Going out and landing a drunken slut does nothing for me. Most times both parties regret what happened when sober. It's not an ego boost to man handle a drunken out-of-control bim. The only real boost comes from, you guessed it, connection leading to acceptance and affections. How to get there without passing the gin mill and meaningless sex is the question. Yes, I was separating the two in my mind. I know there a number of relationship-minded guys like you on here. But there's also an angry mob of men who just want to get laid, and chronically complain about their difficulties in that quest. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Really? I had the impression from your posts and number of past partners that you were quite the lady's man.. Oh I didn't mean I couldn't do OK. It was just my experience where I lived that it wasn't like the picture you painted. There just weren't these floods of free-wheeling women in my path at that time. Had I gone to school rather than working on Wall Street, I'm sure things would have been much different. But I didn't know then what I know now. Who does though. I wish I could change so much. For one, I WAS the ladies man you mentioned when I was in High School. But in the last half of the senior year my family moved us to the burbs quite far away. That last half a year in the new school wasn't all that much time to get to know may new people. Then instead of going to college, I worked my ass off for several years, commuting 3 hours a day and then fitting college in there at night at Pace University downtown Manhattan near the financial district. Eventually I had access and success again with the girls but the period of 17 to 23 was horrible where to many others that's THE time of their lives when sexual experience is at its height. Thus I lament my past. But I had no problem myself as far as my looks or confidence goes. I just didn't know where to turn at that age and all my choices seemed like no slutsville. Link to post Share on other sites
mo mo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 maybe some of us don't give a crap about one-night stands and are looking for something more meaningful.... Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Some of us are not attractive to the opposite sex its as simple as that Link to post Share on other sites
kdark Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 ...about how hard it is for them to get laid. Boohoo hoo. (I am female btw.) While women as a whole are less easy than men, there are loads of sluts happy to avail their male counterparts at the local pub on a Saturday night. I live in a city with an girl's college, and you should see how aggressive some of these young ladies get. I know plenty of guys who are totally average and can easily find free sex if they want it on a given night. If a guy is at all attractive, he can have a field day. Online dating is another easy way for guys to fill their nights with passion. My ex is average looking, and he put about two minutes into his OKC profile. The second girl he met in person was begging him for butt sex on their first date. My point is sex is easy to get for most people. It's LTRs with desirables that are more elusive. A lot of people aren't interested in random screws. I wonder the same thing about why women bitch about it being so hard to find compatible men who want LTRs. Whenever I want to be in one, I find a compatible woman almost immediately. Link to post Share on other sites
Surrealist Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I really don't understand why some women complain so often on this forum why they cannot get an LTR. They are either unattractive overweight ogresses or harbor major personal issues that cripple their prospects, and are in self-denial about either or both of these pitiful shortcomings. Any woman who hasn't ever been married by 25 to 30 years old is a loser but it doesn't mean I'm going to throw up a thread bashing such whinging whining women. Link to post Share on other sites
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