Rate The Conversation Starters (For Girls)

[Kamille]

 

 

 

 

 

I was skeptical about the millipede one. It's just that I was trying to heed the "80-20 Rule" from my brief PUA education. Basically, the 80-20 rule is that a guy should be speaking 80% of the time during the first conversation with a girl and have atleast 2 to 3 minutes worth of scripted material, because a girl isn't going to open up right away, but an awkward silence is a bigger turn off than an awkward topic, so a guy should speak about anything and everything when you're running out of material.

 

It think that makes sense, doesn't it?

 

Well, try the 80-20 and report.

 

All I can say is that a man who swoops by my table, starts chatting and monopolizes the conversation has always been kindly told by my friends and I that we weren't interested. Often time the 80-20 comes off as insecure, disingenuous and gimmicky. But you won't take my word for it, so go out there and try it!

 

The best way to get a girl to open up? Ask her questions about herself. Not creepy ones, but easy natural ones. Here's a write up of how the conversation between bf and I went

 

DJ messes up

Him: "Ah, it's a tough life being a dj!"

Me: "No kidding. Hi! My name is K"

Him: "Greg. Nice to meet you"

Me: "likewise"

Him: "Apart from that mess up, this music is pretty good"

Me: "Totally, I needed to dance"

Him: "Yeah, I had a big day at work and this is my time to unwind"

Me: "what do you do?"

Him: "xyz. You?"

Me: "I study xyz".

 

Then we found common grounds and the rest is history. Notice that the conversation is pretty balanced and that he isn't trying to "impress" me anywhere in there and that he is showing a genuine interest in my life. Notice, too, that the conversation was very 50-50. That's because, yes, I was attracted to him already. There was a reason I was dancing right next to him .

 

SO maybe what you need to work on isn't your lines, but noticing which girls are sending you signals that they're interested.

[sweetjasmine]

I don't believe that's true.

 

Ok, good luck, then.

 

So what do you want a guy to say to you when you're at the bar?

 

"Open sesame."

 

Makes women spread their legs every time, they just can't control it. It's magic.

[Mme. Chaucer]

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Originally Posted by sweetjasmine

By being attractive.

 

That's what you don't seem to understand. Either someone is going to find you attractive or they're not. There's nothing you can say, no magical formula you can use, to MAKE someone like you.

 

I don't believe that's true.

 

Why? Girls are saying it. Girls know what works for them. IT'S TRUE.

 

 

So what do you want a guy to say to you when you're at the bar?

 

When the guy is attractive to us, it does not matter so much what he says. He does not have to be good looking. Some guys (and women) just have a way about them that draws others to them. Sometimes it's in the way they carry themselves; an ease with their own body. Beyond that, there is a certain connection that happens between two people. Something clicks.

 

Why have you been completely unwilling, or unable to grasp that not every single guy is going to be successful at picking up girls for casual sex? It's a true fact!

 

 

Unless she is incoherent. Semi-conscious girls have found themselves in bed with the most unlikely companions. I am NOT advocating you taking advantage of the drunk, or resorting to drugging girls in bars. (Sometimes, in light of your entitled attitude, I fear you might think this was a valid option.)

 

You have never answered this question I have asked you more than one time:

 

WHAT IS IT YOU OFFER A GIRL WHO WOULD AGREE TO HAVE CASUAL SEX WITH YOU? Are you a sex god? Are you a "trophy" that the "party girls" you are stalking would be proud to bag? Are you so fun and exciting to be around that you're just irresistible? Do you throw money around and give "party girls" a reason to think they might be able to get their hands on some of it?

 

I am sorry to be so blunt, but there is nothing a person who plans as carefully as you do - and who is so magnificently on the most wrong track possible - could say in a bar to get a woman interested in him. That world IS NOT FOR YOU. And it's not for a lot of us, so that's not an insult.