EricaH329 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 This is exactly how I would respond to your conversation starters: Hey, have you guys seen Tron Legacy yet? I dunno if you plan to or have seen the first one, but yo, I was watching it with my kid brother the other day, and they totally ripped off the music from Inception; you know, those violin riffs and that horn that goes "BAHM-BAAAAAHM!" And the actual character Tron, the guy whom the movie is named after, is in it for like 30 seconds. How stupid is that? I was like "Refund!" "I have no idea what you are talking about." Hey guys, have you seen 500 Days of Summer? Be honest, is it a chick flick? Because my bros are saying I should rent it, but they've totally tricked me into seeing crappy movies before. They took me to see Lovely Bones, and I swear, 30 minutes in, I wanted to slash their tires, among other things. Seriously, that girl comes back from the dead for one day. She could have used her last day on earth to go to the police to reveal who the killer is and, you know, perhaps save another girl's life! What does she do instead? Spend it with some boy. What a selfish bi ...girl, right?" "Were you about to call her a b*tch? Really?" Hey, do you know the song Toxic by Britney Spears? Don't ask me how I know it. Anyway, check this; you can totally sing B-52's Love Shack over Toxic, and it fits perfectly. I'm serious, Love Shack's lyrics matches to Toxics melody, in timing and transitions and everything. How awesome would it be if you saw a live band starting to play Toxic but started singing Love Shack instead? I wouldn't even know how to respond to this. Hey, quick question. I'm trying to form a new band to do covers. I'm thinking like 80s to today. It's gonna be all guys. Now think about this; if we, a bunch of guys, were to cover Tik Tok by Kesha, would it be funnier to cover it word for word, or change the lyrics to make it more, you know, "guy-appropriate?" Like instead of saying, "Pedicures on our toes toes," it would be "Hitting up all our bros bros" This one actually may start a bit of conversation, but i'd think it was odd that a group of guys would want to cover a Kesha song... and add the word 'bros' in it, at that. So. Question. Has anyone ever asked you to play that game where they asked you if you could be a super hero, what super power would you have? Yeah, isn't that the dumbest game ever? Anyone's who's got half a brain would ask this; what kind of super villain would you be? Cause I know who I'd be. King Bee. I'd wear a yellow and black space suit and carry around a hive full of killer bees, and I'll use pheromones to control them to make them rob banks and sting District Attourney's cute girlfriends and ****. "Really?? :confused:" I can appreciate the attempt you are trying to make. It's a lot more than some guys can say. But, in my opinion, those openers are cheesy/dorky and some of it was extremely crude. I think it's best when you open with a simple one liner. Like Kamilles boyfriend did. It's simple, can start a conversation without making you come across a certain way, and even these 'idiots' you refer to can comprehend simple chit chat. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't really get these. They would all come off as non-sequitors. Yeah, that was my reaction. I haven't seen Tron Legacy or 500 Days of Summer. I don't really know who the heck Kim Kardashian is aside from hearing her name all the time on the stupid TV. I'm barely aware of Kesha and couldn't hum you the chorus of her song to save my life. I find the super hero fad to be rather lame. And if a guy came up to me in a bar and the first thing in his mouth was about finance and economics, I wouldn't want to talk to him at all. Even if I knew all of those pop culture references inside out, I would be weirded out by someone just randomly coming up to me and throwing out a canned line about a random movie. Instead of, y'know, saying hello and/or making a simple, casual remark to establish contact. Stop trying to plan everything in advance. With all the variables of social interaction, anything prepackaged will most likely lead to a massive fail, and you're not witty enough to handle the challenge. That's the other thing. Say you try your Tron line, and the response is, "I've never seen that movie. I have no idea what you're talking about." Where do you go from there? Do you go to, "Well, have you seen 500 Days of Summer?" I wouldn't give someone who approached me like that the time of day because they're obviously reading from a script, trying too hard, and completely uninterested in anything other than getting into my pants. You may not think so but it's glaringly obvious. I will have a rum and coke! Then, immediately the girl to my right says. Make that two. I look at her then back to the bartender and said. You better make hers a diet. It worked. Take from that what you will. And you didn't script that a week in advance?! OP, you need to learn conversational skills. Stop scripting lame "conversation openers" and try talking to random strangers. Get comfortable with that first. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 On Millionaire Matchmaker, the host had this socially awkward guy try out some improv classes, to get him comfortable with in situ small talk. This is maybe something U1987 could consider trying out. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 You're not the first one to bring this up. Everyone else who has brought it up has also avoided this question, so please answer it. Would you go out with a registered sex offender? Because a guy WILL go on the registry if he's caught with a prostitute. Do you understand that? Nobody's going out with you anyway, and you are not a registered sex offender. Besides, you don't want to "go out" with girls / women. You just want to have sex. So what does it matter? I understand your reluctance to hire a pro to provide for your "needs," but unless you become willing to participate in a give and take with regular girls / women, that's about your only option. Or celibacy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I understand your reluctance to hire a pro to provide for your "needs," but unless you become willing to participate in a give and take with regular girls / women, that's about your only option. Or celibacy. That's why I'm asking for conversation starters! Just the starters not the whole conversation! Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I will have a rum and coke! Then, immediately the girl to my right says. Make that two. I look at her then back to the bartender and said. You better make hers a diet. It worked. Take from that what you will. So, I should just order drinks and wait for girls in my proximity to say "make it two?" What if she DIDN'T say "make it two?" What would you have done then? Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Instead of, y'know, saying hello and/or making a simple, casual remark to establish contact. Yeah, but girls have guys just "saying hello" and "making simple casual remarks" to them all the time. How will doing the same as every other guy make me stand out above the rest? Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Say you try your Tron line, and the response is, "I've never seen that movie. I have no idea what you're talking about." Where do you go from there? That's a fairly good point. How does this sound instead; making it a statement instead of a question? So guys. I just saw Tron Legacy. I don't know if you're planning on seeing it or have seen the original from the 80s, but check this. They totally ripped off the music from Inception! You know, that violin riff and that dramatic horn that goes "BAHM-BAAAAAAHM!" And the actual character Tron, the guy whom the movie is named after, is in it for all but 30 seconds. How stupid is that? Have you ever felt ripped off by a movie before? Link to post Share on other sites
Romance Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 uhhhh...those are..awful Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 uhhhh...those are..awful How? Like I said, feel free to provide alternatives or examples. Anyway, I thought of 2 more. What do you all think of these? This particular next one is for warmer weather; not particularly appropriate for the winter. Hey guys, quick question. Is it just me? Or have the bugs around here been getting bigger and scarier in recent years? Seriously, I saw a dead millipede in the parking lot in front of star bucks earlier. This this was like a foot long, it was this creepy pale yellow color. It reminded me of the Face-hugger from the Aliens movies. This is how big this thing was; it took 3 crows to tear this thing apart and eat it. They eventually did it, but 3 crows had to work long and hard to eat this mother****er. How crazy is that? Hey, thank god for global warming right? Here's another. Hey do you have a moment? ... Yeah, what's with... those girls who walk around with these huge entourages of guys? Seriously, is this one of those Life-Imitating-The-Jersey-Shore things? I saw 1 girl walking in with 5 guys, and as soon as I saw this, I thought to myself, "Dudes. C'mon. Sure, she's hot, but she's not going to bang all of you. Get a life." What a bunch of losers, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Ok, now you're officially just trolling. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Quote: Hey guys, quick question. Is it just me? Or have the bugs around here been getting bigger and scarier in recent years? Seriously, I saw a dead millipede in the parking lot in front of star bucks earlier. This this was like a foot long, it was this creepy pale yellow color. It reminded me of the Face-hugger from the Aliens movies. This is how big this thing was; it took 3 crows to tear this thing apart and eat it. They eventually did it, but 3 crows had to work long and hard to eat this mother****er. How crazy is that? Hey, thank god for global warming right? Here's another. Quote: Hey do you have a moment? ... Yeah, what's with... those girls who walk around with these huge entourages of guys? Seriously, is this one of those Life-Imitating-The-Jersey-Shore things? I saw 1 girl walking in with 5 guys, and as soon as I saw this, I thought to myself, "Dudes. C'mon. Sure, she's hot, but she's not going to bang all of you. Get a life." What a bunch of losers, right? Ladies! Can you IMAGINE the hilarity if a guy walked up to you and a group of your girls in a club and launched into one of these speeches? OP - I know that was mean of me, but honestly, DO NOT try these "conversation starters" in real life unless you want to experience humiliation in real life. It's true that I am not well disposed towards you because of your belief that somehow women owe you sex ... but it's probably not your fault. I think you really, really need professional help with how to get in sync with your fellow humans. Mind you - that STILL is not going to result in casual sex for you, probably. But it would be a step away from isolation. Or, you are just a creative troll. Link to post Share on other sites
iJester Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I've rethought my position, and I think those are, in fact, excellent conversation starters. Now, it's time to start going out and using them, so go hit the club this weekend and let us know your results on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH329 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 You don't have to take our word for it U1987. We are only honestly trying to help. You can question it all you would like, or you could go out and actually use those lines and see for yourself. We aren't trying to prevent you from getting what you want. We are only trying to let you know, that you won't get what you want going about it in this way. But again, don't take our word for it. Go ahead and do it. Let us know how that goes. Link to post Share on other sites
flying Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) How? Like I said, feel free to provide alternatives or examples. Anyway, I thought of 2 more. What do you all think of these? This particular next one is for warmer weather; not particularly appropriate for the winter. Here's another. Have you practiced saying any of these in front of a mirror? I think you should read them out loud, pretend you're actually saying them to a person. Seriously - just listen to yourself saying them. It's going to take a long time to get through each one. Bottom line. They are tooooooooooooooo long. Openers: One sentence. Try that for a while. No, I am not going to give you an example. I'm just telling you, no one's going to sit still for a long monologue. Why aren't you getting that?? Cut. It. Short. Edited to add: OK, I changed my mind. Walk up to a group of girls and try this: "I saw a dead millipede in the parking lot. It was like a foot long. It took three crows to tear this thing apart and eat it." Then just stare at them creepily. I really think you're just trolling at this point. Nobody thinks a millipede is a reasonable opening line. I chastise myself for taking you seriously for a moment. Anyway, weren't you going to try to date that 19-year-old? Edited January 21, 2011 by flying Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 "I saw a dead millipede in the parking lot. It was like a foot long. It took three crows to tear this thing apart and eat it." Then just stare at them creepily. Oh My God That is so hot If a guy walked up to me and said that, I think I'd need to have him then and there. Whew. I'm flushed. Link to post Share on other sites
paddington bear Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I met a guy once who was into all this stuff. But...the key things were: a) he didn't talk down to me about it - he spoke to me as an equal but with different interests: "Have you heard the theory of blah blah vs blah blah?" me: No, do explain. He didn't say "The theory of blah blah is that this and that complicated thing happened and look how intelligent I am that I have to explain this complex stuff to you, you party girl pleb". lesson number 1. Speak about what you love, but don't speak down to others about it. b) he had met someone (me) who although not in this field reads enough newspapers online to know vaguely about those new fossils that were found, or that nanogold particles have been found to make plants grow red. Do I know any more than that? Hell no! But I had enough of an interest. lesson number 2. If you are going to go after 'party girls' who I'm guessing will be talking about fashion, who slept with whom among their social circle, if they have gained an ounce in the last week, etc. then...well, this ain't going to work. c) this guy I met mentioned this stuff, but also had a charming personality along with his interest in what some might call nerdy topics. He could talk about anything. Well-rounded individual, although you could tell where his passion lay. lesson number 3. Genuinely take an interest in general topics, then you won't have to pretend to come up with lines you think girls will like, you will have experienced stuff yourself and can converse easily on any topic. Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Have you practiced saying any of these in front of a mirror? I think you should read them out loud, pretend you're actually saying them to a person. Seriously - just listen to yourself saying them. It's going to take a long time to get through each one. Bottom line. They are tooooooooooooooo long. Openers: One sentence. Try that for a while. No, I am not going to give you an example. I'm just telling you, no one's going to sit still for a long monologue. Why aren't you getting that?? Cut. It. Short. Alright how does this sound as an example? "Hey, have you heard of Justice? (wait for her to answer) They're a techno band. They're like the new Daft Punk, they're actually also a French techno duo. It's not, like, trance or pop-techno. It's dirty. (wait for her to answer) It's very bass and drums driven, but not like house or industrial. It's more, like, early 80s funk and disco inspired. Are you musical at all? or some variation of that concerning the music that's playing, like "This bass line is dirty. You hear that? (wait for her to answer) Yeah, it's not obnoxious or over bearing. It's really intricate, like early 80s funk or disco. Guy's really talented. Are you musical at all? Edited to add: OK, I changed my mind. Walk up to a group of girls and try this: "I saw a dead millipede in the parking lot. It was like a foot long. It took three crows to tear this thing apart and eat it." Then just stare at them creepily. I really think you're just trolling at this point. Nobody thinks a millipede is a reasonable opening line. I chastise myself for taking you seriously for a moment. Anyway, weren't you going to try to date that 19-year-old? I was skeptical about the millipede one. It's just that I was trying to heed the "80-20 Rule" from my brief PUA education. Basically, the 80-20 rule is that a guy should be speaking 80% of the time during the first conversation with a girl and have atleast 2 to 3 minutes worth of scripted material, because a girl isn't going to open up right away, but an awkward silence is a bigger turn off than an awkward topic, so a guy should speak about anything and everything when you're running out of material. It think that makes sense, doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My head asplode. Is there an emoticom? Link to post Share on other sites
Duckduckgoose Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I only read the first post, with the pick-up lines designed for drunk/tipsy women at the bar. Oh God if I was drunk at a bar and you said all that **** I would tell you to get lost... too yappy. Anything with baby, honey, sweetie... would work. Understanding your quoted pick up lines takes me being sober... and reading them twice. I am quite tired right now which might contribute to my current mental lethargy. We need few words and good words while intoxicated. Spoken slowly depending how far gone she is. And if you're a smart guy, what the hell are you doing at a bar trying to pick up bar skanks? Just for the sex? Seems like you might be going pretty low to get some pootang. Since you're smart try some places where smart women are... I really can't think of any off the top of my head... apparently I don't hang out with smart women haha. Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I only read the first post, with the pick-up lines designed for drunk/tipsy women at the bar. Oh God if I was drunk at a bar and you said all that **** I would tell you to get lost... too yappy. Anything with baby, honey, sweetie... would work. Don't women get called "baby," "honey" and "sweetie" all the time by drunk douchebags at the bar all the time? How will doing that make me stand out? The reason I went at lengths to come up with those is because girls at the bar get guys trying to "holler" at them all the time. I'm just trying to stand out about the rest. Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I was skeptical about the millipede one. It's just that I was trying to heed the "80-20 Rule" from my brief PUA education. Basically, the 80-20 rule is that a guy should be speaking 80% of the time during the first conversation with a girl and have atleast 2 to 3 minutes worth of scripted material, because a girl isn't going to open up right away, but an awkward silence is a bigger turn off than an awkward topic, so a guy should speak about anything and everything when you're running out of material. It think that makes sense, doesn't it? Stand-up comics have material, and you make me laugh, so I guess it might work. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Yeah, but girls have guys just "saying hello" and "making simple casual remarks" to them all the time. How will doing the same as every other guy make me stand out above the rest? By being attractive. That's what you don't seem to understand. Either someone is going to find you attractive or they're not. There's nothing you can say, no magical formula you can use, to MAKE someone like you. That's a fairly good point. How does this sound instead; making it a statement instead of a question? Honestly, I would've stopped listening after "I just saw Tron Legacy," because, really, I don't give a sh-t what movie some random guy in a bar saw if he just walked up to me and started talking about it. It's completely out of context, random, and awkward. I'll give you something, though, it sure does make you stand out. Link to post Share on other sites
Negative Nancy Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think these lines are only gonna work on 14 year olds. Link to post Share on other sites
Author U1987 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 By being attractive. That's what you don't seem to understand. Either someone is going to find you attractive or they're not. There's nothing you can say, no magical formula you can use, to MAKE someone like you. I don't believe that's true. Honestly, I would've stopped listening after "I just saw Tron Legacy," because, really, I don't give a sh-t what movie some random guy in a bar saw if he just walked up to me and started talking about it. It's completely out of context, random, and awkward. I'll give you something, though, it sure does make you stand out. So what do you want a guy to say to you when you're at the bar? Link to post Share on other sites
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