Author Woggle Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 At my current job we are dealing with a guy who tried to screw us over and for some reason my boss likes to take me into the negotiations because this guy is genuinely scared of me for some reason. We have recently gotten a pitbull lawyer and are willing to take him to court but would he just paid the company what he owes. He is a Bernie Madoff in training who has screwed countless people and finally he met somebody who is fighting back. I put together a bunch of files showing exactly what he owes us and why he owes it. Our lawyer and his lawyer both agree but he completely lost his temper and starting screaming during the meeting when he would no choice but to pay up or go to court where he will surely lose. He is nailed to the wall and can't stand the fact that he is held accountable for his actions. How dare somebody not lay down and take it. Cheaters act the same exact way when they are caught. Link to post Share on other sites
OWoman Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Oh right. She was a narcissist because she was cheated on. Nope, she was a narcissist AND she was cheated on. She didn't become a narcissist because of the A - she was a narcissist lonnnng before then. Since her childhood - her nickname in the family was "poison dwarf". She had her own history of cheating, too, which was possibly more in keeping with her narcissism. That wasn't my point. My point was simply that not all WSs are narcissists. Sometimes the co-narcissist "cheats" as a first step to reclaiming the Self, and healing from the co-narcissism. And sometimes narcissists find themselves on the receiving end of cheating too. It's not always one-way traffic. Link to post Share on other sites
notagame Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Nope, she was a narcissist AND she was cheated on. She didn't become a narcissist because of the A - she was a narcissist lonnnng before then. Since her childhood - her nickname in the family was "poison dwarf". She had her own history of cheating, too, which was possibly more in keeping with her narcissism. That wasn't my point. And where did you receive this intel? My point was simply that not all WSs are narcissists. Jesus my wife's not a narcissist. She went to another man for the betterment of our marriage. Sometimes the co-narcissist "cheats" as a first step to reclaiming the Self, and healing from the co-narcissism. And sometimes narcissists find themselves on the receiving end of cheating too. "Co-narcissist?" This is funny. It's not always one-way traffic. Mmmmm. So in order for infidelity to happen it has to be two-sided. Okay gotcha. Link to post Share on other sites
confusedinkansas Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yea you're right. Every cheating situation is different, but the outcome is the same. Nope Not sure how you figure that the "outcome is the same" The outcome is not THE SAME Some marriages get thru the infidelity & are better for it Some crash & burn Some decide to be with their AP - Others don't........... Yadda Yadda Yadda............And many other scenarios You can't group people into one BUNCH - You can try but it just isn't how real life is Link to post Share on other sites
Distant78 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Nope Not sure how you figure that the "outcome is the same" Yep. And I'm not sure how you figure BSs are at fault for a cheater's cheating. The outcome is not THE SAME You think putting words in bold will have an affect on the facts? Nope. The outcome is the same and it doesn't end in La-La-Land. Some marriages get thru the infidelity & are better for it Few get through infidelity. Some crash & burn Many crash and burn. Some decide to be with their AP - Others don't........... All get played for a fool by their AP. Yadda Yadda Yadda............And many other scenarios And Yadda Yadda Yadda and so forth. You can't group people into one BUNCH - You can try but it just isn't how real life is Yup neither can you. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Over 400 millions people in North America alone and you are the authority on all of their relationships... LOL Yep. And I'm not sure how you figure BSs are at fault for a cheater's cheating. Yeah every person who was cheated on is a poor doe in the woods Sometimes you really do make your bed You think putting words in bold will have an affect on the facts? Nope. The outcome is the same and it doesn't end in La-La-Land. Prove they are the "facts" Few get through infidelity. But some do Many crash and burn. But some dont All get played for a fool by their AP. "All"... hmm.. thats a strong word....what qualifies you to use such a word with regards to this? Edited February 23, 2011 by StoneCold Link to post Share on other sites
neveragain1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Those that have cheated (like myself) have our reasons for doing what we did. Those that choose to be serial cheaters - have their reasons too. Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong.......it just is what it is. wrong. cheating is wrong no matter how you slice it, justify it, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
neveragain1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah every person who was cheated on is a poor doe in the woods Sometimes you really do make your bed thats like 2 people getting in a heated argument. neither one is a saint. one pulls out a gun and shoots the other. they made their bed, they deserved it:o Link to post Share on other sites
neveragain1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 "All"... hmm.. thats a strong word....what qualifies you to use such a word with regards to this? I don't know Distant's story, but I can tell you what qualifies me to back up what he said. As an xBS, I can see as someone betrayed we ARE, in fact, played for fools. At least initially until we can grab the reigns and take control of our situation. but there is, at the very least, a small amount of time where people that are cheated on were played for fools. Link to post Share on other sites
Distant78 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Over 400 millions people in North America alone and you are the authority on all of their relationships... LOL Oh yea I said that alright. Yeah every person who was cheated on is a poor doe in the woods Cheaters are the elite of the human race. Equipped with supernatural powers of infidelity. . Sometimes you really do make your bed Thanks. How do you know that? Prove they are the "facts" Prove they aren't facts. But some do But most don't. But some dont But many do. "All"... hmm.. thats a strong word....what qualifies you to use such a word with regards to this? Umm my brain? Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 thats like 2 people getting in a heated argument. neither one is a saint. one pulls out a gun and shoots the other. they made their bed, they deserved it:o LOL...wow thats a wild oversimplification if I ever heard one Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't know Distant's story, but I can tell you what qualifies me to back up what he said. As an xBS, I can see as someone betrayed we ARE, in fact, played for fools. At least initially until we can grab the reigns and take control of our situation. WRONG...you are only qualified to talk about your OWN experience....not ALL...big difference but there is, at the very least, a small amount of time where people that are cheated on were played for fools. OK so now you go from backing up a statement of "ALL" to "a small amount of the time?" Well at least you're starting to make a little more sense but the packaging is baffling Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Nobody has to cheat to reclaim the self. This reminds me why I can't stand a lot of this new agey stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
neveragain1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 LOL...wow thats a wild oversimplification if I ever heard one principle is the same Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 principle is the same No actually it isnt...it isnt at all Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 One of my friends in middle school got caught shoplifting. Her reasoning for doing it? She said that her parents didn't give her enough spending money, so she had no choice. People who think that cheating is in any way justifiable by a spouse's behavior, no matter how bad it may be, remind me of that middle school, entitled mindset. Link to post Share on other sites
notagame Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Nobody has to cheat to reclaim the self. This reminds me why I can't stand a lot of this new agey stuff. More like losing themselves, and the value of their body. Link to post Share on other sites
neveragain1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 WRONG...you are only qualified to talk about your OWN experience....not ALL...big difference no, ALL people cheated on are played for fools, even if just for a very short time. the term "played for a fool" can mean just about anything to anyone. to me it means that someone disrespected you. OK so now you go from backing up a statement of "ALL" to "a small amount of the time?" Well at least you're starting to make a little more sense but the packaging is baffling its baffling because your comprehension is lacking. its still "ALL" with regards to who, but a small amount of time at the minimum with regards. you need to seperate the who with the how long. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 If a relationship is that bad then leave. Most cheaters will rewrite the marital history to make the BS look like the most horrible to ever be in a relationship when in most cases it is not even close to the truth. Betrayed spouses are usually not anywhere close to being as bad as they are made to be. I actually laugh at some of the off the wall accusations my ex made about me after she was cheating. She certainly did have a vivid imagination. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 no, ALL people cheated on are played for fools, even if just for a very short time. the term "played for a fool" can mean just about anything to anyone. to me it means that someone disrespected you. its baffling because your comprehension is lacking. its still "ALL" with regards to who, but a small amount of time at the minimum with regards. you need to seperate the who with the how long. lol.... I'll have what your smoking Link to post Share on other sites
notagame Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 lol.... I'll have what your smoking And I'll have what you're smoking. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 And I'll have what you're smoking. then you'll have to ask neveragain1 Link to post Share on other sites
notagame Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 then you'll have to ask neveragain1 But I'm asking you. Got the kush on you? Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 One of my friends in middle school got caught shoplifting. Her reasoning for doing it? She said that her parents didn't give her enough spending money, so she had no choice. People who think that cheating is in any way justifiable by a spouse's behavior, no matter how bad it may be, remind me of that middle school, entitled mindset. Perfect, MC! Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Perfect, MC! c'mon Donna... you are a little wacky yes... but you're smarter than that Link to post Share on other sites
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