P90x

[Mattock5656]

Has anyone had any luck with this program? I tried it at a friends house and I only did a little but it was quite interesting. Although, its three payments of 40 dollars. Do you feel its worth the price or just better to do other exercise routines?

[tman666]

It depends on what your goals are, what your level of experience is, and how much you're looking for an all inclusive type program without having to do any research of your own.

 

Don't use it is you're looking to bulk up, add a lot of explosive strength, or for any specific sports conditioning. Don't buy for one second that Tony Horton looks the way he does from doing P90x exclusively.

 

I personally have never done all of P90x as a program (doesn't fit my goals). I've done bits and pieces for fun before, and I think that most of it is pretty decent for the average person looking to trim up, feel healthy, and build enough strength to be able to live a healthy lifestyle. I think that the kenpo x is laughable, even in terms of a "cardio kickboxing" workout. Cardio x is not very difficult, but it makes a good mobility drill workout. Yoga x is surprisingly difficult, but well balanced in terms of a full body mobility/static strength/balance workout.

 

It might be worth it to you if you need a program that tells you exactly what to eat and leads you through each any every workout. Some people don't do well (for whatever their reasons) being self guided in regards to nutrition and training. If you're one of those people, P90x could be an ok investment.

 

As with any program, don't expect any miracles. Big changes take a long time (months/years) of hard work and consistency.

[josie54]

Nobody would be using P90X for the specific activities tman mentions (bulking up, explosive training, sports training). Those are highly specialized athletic activities that not surprisingly would require many hours a day of training.

 

If you're looking to look healthy, muscular and fit, however, I do think P90X program delivers on that promise IF you follow its program, which takes a committment of 60-90 minutes a day of working out, and eating well outside of the workouts.

 

I purchased a brand-new set of the P90X DVDs and booklets off Craigslist for $60 (I wouldn't purchase it new--I'm sure there are plenty of copies out there from people who just aren't that into fitness, just like any fitness equipment). And I only use it from time to time. I find the workouts challenging, although a bit repetitive.

 

I am in good shape, but by no means am I as lean as I'd like to be, and I can keep up with most of the workouts. But I find the workouts difficult enough to know I'm challenging myself.

 

From tman's criticisms, I think he's pretty much a hard-core workout junkie, who spends his spare time in the gym doing bench presses. I am NOT. I'm a woman who works out because I have to, not because I want to, to stay fit. I would recommend the P90X routines as a no-nonsense set of workouts that covers every type of activity you need to stay in good shape. It's particularly good if you just want to use these workouts exclusively for a few weeks, but don't expect to want to do only these DVDs for the long term. They'll get boring just like anything else. You'll probably want to intersperse these workouts in your larger fitness routine as you like.

[tman666]

Nobody would be using P90X for the specific activities tman mentions (bulking up, explosive training, sports training). Those are highly specialized athletic activities that not surprisingly would require many hours a day of training.

 

Not necessarily. While many elite athletes do devote hours per day to their sport (for the purpose of developing specific skillsets such as agility, technique, etc.), developing sport specific athleticism (such as the explosiveness and power needed for football, high jumping, sprinting, mixed martial arts) can be done in a reasonable time frame (less than an hour). It's a common misconception that developing strength, power, and even mass takes significantly more time than a "normal" workout. Hell, my training sessions (weight training or otherwise) generally do not last for more than 35-45 minutes. Training with intensity is the key.

 

From tman's criticisms, I think he's pretty much a hard-core workout junkie, who spends his spare time in the gym doing bench presses.

 

I'm not sure where you draw your conclusions from, but portraying me as a thoughtless meathead only highlights your ignorance. I apologize if what I said earlier doesn't jive with your views, but resorting to petty smearing as a means of discounting my opinions is just poor form...

 

It's not like I insulted anyone's mother or religion, right? At least, I think I didn't. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

 

You'll probably want to intersperse these workouts in your larger fitness routine as you like.

 

Then he wouldn't be doing P90x. At that point, why would he waste his hard earned cash on a program that's only going to be used in supplementation to his "larger fitness routine". If P90x is such a miracle in training philosophy, why on earth would he want to split it apart and not adhere to it exactly as it was designed to be adhered to? He'd be doing some mish-mash of whatever other routine he'd be doing without any goal in mind. What goal(s) would he be accomplishing by doing that, other than becoming more active?

[starryeyed12]

I am currently on week 8 of p90x, day 51.

 

If you follow the diet and the exercises to the T you absolutely will get toned, ripped, and if you modify your diet correctly, you can bulk up.

 

Kemp x has been revamped to Kempo Cardio Plus and is an awesome cardio workout. Plyometrics will kick your a**, as well as Core Synergistics and yoga. The biceps, tris, and shoulders DVD and the back and biceps DVD are hardcore! Just about every kind of curl, pushup, pull-up, back exercise you can think up are included in these workouts. The back and bicep DVD only attacks those two areas for over 50 mins! The legs and back is also a great workout. If you have the proper weights at home, it will get you ripped and bulked.

 

It is all about whether or not you are going to work hard. If you are dogging it and not using the correct weights you won't get huge. It's about HIGH weight, LOW reps (8-10). You have to feel the burn and keep track of yourself. For the arms and back exercises, Tony stresses to write down the exercises, the weight you used that day, and number of reps it took to really feel the burn. That way there is no question in your mind about your progression.

 

I started at about 138 lbs at 5'6" and am down to a solid 130. 8 lbs might not sound like a lot, but none of my pants fit anymore. They are all too loose. I seriously don't think I have been this toned and thin since high school soccer. I am not trying to bulk up, so I do lower weights with high reps. Also, I am quite strict with the diet. I am doing the portion diet plan and I only cheat on the weekends. If you are small, adding more protein and various other things to your diet will most likely be necessary for bulking.

 

My ex was trying to bulk and was "out-growing" the weights he had at home, so he watched the video and wrote down all of the exercises to take to the gym and use the weights there on the arms and back DVD days. That's just one idea if you don't want to buy a bunch of weights and have a gym membership already.

 

I played sports my entire life, up until the last 3 years (haven't played since college). These exercises and routines are similar to what I did training for soccer and lacrosse.

 

I also did an extreme acceleration program for soccer back when I was in high school. I had a personal trainer and we did different exercises to work on explosiveness and agility. That was when I was an extreme athlete though.

 

P90x is perfect for me at this point.

 

Wow…I sound like a salesperson, but I really love this program!

Edited March 3, 2011 by starryeyed12

[josie54]

Wow, I'm usually one of the nice ones on this forum! Didn't mean for my comments to rub you the wrong way. Please let me clarify:

 

Not necessarily. While many elite athletes do devote hours per day to their sport (for the purpose of developing specific skillsets such as agility, technique, etc.), developing sport specific athleticism (such as the explosiveness and power needed for football, high jumping, sprinting, mixed martial arts) can be done in a reasonable time frame (less than an hour). It's a common misconception that developing strength, power, and even mass takes significantly more time than a "normal" workout. Hell, my training sessions (weight training or otherwise) generally do not last for more than 35-45 minutes. Training with intensity is the key.

 

The reason I took your comments as I did is that, as far as I can tell, P90X IS "training with intensity." Short of having a personal trainer, I've never put myself through more challenging workouts. I would expect, if I did the P90X workouts as directed, I would get just ripped as could be.

 

I'm not sure where you draw your conclusions from, but portraying me as a thoughtless meathead only highlights your ignorance. I apologize if what I said earlier doesn't jive with your views, but resorting to petty smearing as a means of discounting my opinions is just poor form... .

 

I did not mean to portray you as a "thoughtless meathead" and I NEVER thought I was resorting to "petty smearing." I never once resorted to name-calling--nor did I ever want to. However, I did have a knee-jerk reaction to your post and I'm sorry. Too often, I've heard other people tell others that they're not really exercising unless they can run an 7-minute mile or bench press 200 pounds. When you were telling the OP that the P90X was for the "average person looking to trim up," I got overly defensive. I definitely should have chosen my words more carefully. I disagreed, because to me, P90X is not for the average person...the average person wouldn't make it past the warm-ups on some of these. You do have to be in relatively good shape to take these workouts on. And you have to be in great shape to be able to do them well. Also something to note--anyone can up the intensity of these workouts by simply choosing heavier weights.

 

Again, I overreacted to what I actually perceived as an insult, although incorrectly so.

 

It's not like I insulted anyone's mother or religion, right? At least, I think I didn't. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

 

Again, I didn't realize the tone my post had, and I'm sorry.

 

Then he wouldn't be doing P90x. At that point, why would he waste his hard earned cash on a program that's only going to be used in supplementation to his "larger fitness routine". If P90x is such a miracle in training philosophy, why on earth would he want to split it apart and not adhere to it exactly as it was designed to be adhered to??

 

My point is that it CAN be a "miracle training philosophy" of sorts, if it's done as directed, as starryeyed notes. BUT it's also great exercise, even if it's split apart. I was trying to explain that it's good either way, but if you want the fantastic results they show in the commercial, you have to do it as directed. But if you just want some killer workouts, it's also worth the money. It's much cheaper than a personal trainer, and it gives the same intensity.

 

He'd be doing some mish-mash of whatever other routine he'd be doing without any goal in mind. What goal(s) would he be accomplishing by doing that, other than becoming more active?

 

Fitness is definitely a goal, but it doesn't have to be done by any specific timetable or organizational chart. Again, my point was that the P90X system is also a collection of great workouts that can be done independently. It will suit many people's goal of simply having enough variety to keep going. Even at $120, you get 13 separate workouts at less than $10 each, which is a pretty good deal. It's an even better deal if you purchase them secondhand as I did.

 

Again, I'm sensitive when it comes to the perception that one has to practically kill themselves to get in shape, and that trigger just went off to quickly here. Tman, I NEVER meant to insult you and I'm very, very sorry. I strive to be civil, reasonable, and friendly on this forum, and I didn't mean for my comments to come off as that negative.

[phxsun]

I use P90X but I don't follow the program. I incorporate a lot of their routines (Core Synergistics, Cardio X, Stretch X, Plyometrics etc) into my own personal routine and I find that to be the best routine FOR ME.

 

I've since learn from talking to other fitness experts that the best routine, is the one that you stick to. Whether it's P90X, Insanity or whatever. The biggest thing, is the mental aspect. If you can stick to P90X, then it's a great workout routine and would get you looking great in 90 days. If you can't then I suggest doing what I do and incorporate routines that you want to work on (ie Chest and Back, Biceps etc) into your own workouts.

 

Personally, I like P90X because a lot of the work outs like cardio and plyo are great for sports. I play basketball and it's gotten me into the best shape of my life. Rather than working on the routines that make you look good (like biceps, legs and back), I only work on the routines that would translate to better on court performance. In that aspect, it's helped me keep to P90X and fit in general.

[starryeyed12]

I disagreed, because to me, P90X is not for the average person...the average person wouldn't make it past the warm-ups on some of these. You do have to be in relatively good shape to take these workouts on. And you have to be in great shape to be able to do them well. Also something to note--anyone can up the intensity of these workouts by simply choosing heavier weights.

 

 

I 100% agree with this!

 

WARNING:::P90x is not for the faint of heart. It is not for the average person, but likewise, the average person isn't ripped and in killer shape. It takes WORK. You will not be able to keep up with them for the first month on many of the exercises on the DVDs, maybe even longer if you are really out of shape.

 

Some exercises you may rock at from the start, others you will struggle with up until the end. For me, I rocked at many of the yoga poses because I had some background. But there are STILL some, 8 weeks later, that have my muscles shaking and wobbling. You modify and do what you can.

 

The key to it all is to keep GOING. Keep pushing, keeping trying, keep working! Results will come. There is a difference between making it easier and dogging it. Dogging it is not trying or working hard. Making it easier is pushing yourself to the limit, but with an easier method than the more advanced ones they are using.

 

It gives you all the tools, but you need to bring it.

[tman666]

Wow, I'm usually one of the nice ones on this forum! Didn't mean for my comments to rub you the wrong way. Please let me clarify:

 

The reason I took your comments as I did is that, as far as I can tell, P90X IS "training with intensity." Short of having a personal trainer, I've never put myself through more challenging workouts. I would expect, if I did the P90X workouts as directed, I would get just ripped as could be.

 

I did not mean to portray you as a "thoughtless meathead" and I NEVER thought I was resorting to "petty smearing." I never once resorted to name-calling--nor did I ever want to. However, I did have a knee-jerk reaction to your post and I'm sorry. Too often, I've heard other people tell others that they're not really exercising unless they can run an 7-minute mile or bench press 200 pounds. When you were telling the OP that the P90X was for the "average person looking to trim up," I got overly defensive. I definitely should have chosen my words more carefully. I disagreed, because to me, P90X is not for the average person...the average person wouldn't make it past the warm-ups on some of these. You do have to be in relatively good shape to take these workouts on. And you have to be in great shape to be able to do them well. Also something to note--anyone can up the intensity of these workouts by simply choosing heavier weights.

 

Again, I overreacted to what I actually perceived as an insult, although incorrectly so.

 

Again, I didn't realize the tone my post had, and I'm sorry.

 

My point is that it CAN be a "miracle training philosophy" of sorts, if it's done as directed, as starryeyed notes. BUT it's also great exercise, even if it's split apart. I was trying to explain that it's good either way, but if you want the fantastic results they show in the commercial, you have to do it as directed. But if you just want some killer workouts, it's also worth the money. It's much cheaper than a personal trainer, and it gives the same intensity.

 

Fitness is definitely a goal, but it doesn't have to be done by any specific timetable or organizational chart. Again, my point was that the P90X system is also a collection of great workouts that can be done independently. It will suit many people's goal of simply having enough variety to keep going. Even at $120, you get 13 separate workouts at less than $10 each, which is a pretty good deal. It's an even better deal if you purchase them secondhand as I did.

 

Again, I'm sensitive when it comes to the perception that one has to practically kill themselves to get in shape, and that trigger just went off to quickly here. Tman, I NEVER meant to insult you and I'm very, very sorry. I strive to be civil, reasonable, and friendly on this forum, and I didn't mean for my comments to come off as that negative.

 

Perhaps I overreacted as well. Just as you got defensive when I said that "P90x was for the average person looking to trim up", I tend to get a little sensitive when I feel like I'm being compared to those brainless folks that you mentioned who ascribe fitness to a very specific accomplishment such as running sub 7 minute miles or bench pressing 200 lbs. In addition, I too despise the increasing perception that annihilating one's body is the best and only way to become a good athlete, or even just more physically fit. It's an absurdity that turns a lot of people away from smart, hard training that could make a massive difference in their lives.

 

And you're also correct in pointing out that intensity is a relative concept. For me, deadlifting 500 lbs is intense, but for an elite powerlifter, 500 is barely a warmup. For the old lady down the street, standing up out of a chair 20 times could be intense. It's not to say that one is better than the other. What gets my goat is when people think that taking shortcuts and "going through the motions" should yield the same results as someone who is consistently pushing themselves and striving to improve their performance, even if it's in small increments. For most people, a shot of intensity (within reason) is a sorely needed addition to their workouts. It's the reason why programs like P90x and Crossfit have so many followers that, after achieving visible results for the first time in their lives, are absolutely convinced that their respective programs are the end-all.

 

My main point is that many (not saying you're included in this group, btw) end up treating these programs like a holy tome. And really, I don't mean to just single out P90x and Crossfit here. It could be any training/diet philosophy.

 

Overall, I think that P90x is a well balanced program. Just like every other program, it's got its pros and cons. While it may be something that I couldn't justify spending money on, it could be worth every penny for someone who is looking for an all inclusive guide to improving their general fitness.

[starryeyed12]

What gets my goat is when people think that taking shortcuts and "going through the motions" should yield the same results as someone who is consistently pushing themselves and striving to improve their performance, even if it's in small increments. For most people, a shot of intensity (within reason) is a sorely needed addition to their workouts. It's the reason why programs like P90x and Crossfit have so many followers that, after achieving visible results for the first time in their lives, are absolutely convinced that their respective programs are the end-all.

 

My main point is that many (not saying you're included in this group, btw) end up treating these programs like a holy tome. And really, I don't mean to just single out P90x and Crossfit here. It could be any training/diet philosophy.

 

The original poster asked, is p90x worth it? I'm glad we are back to that.

 

If you skim to your main points, first you said it wasn't intense enough (wrong). Now you seem to be saying that people who ACHIEVE AMAZING RESULTS are foolish for thinking highly of it. And this is foolish because they need to "add a shot of intensity."

 

If you were an actual p90x participant you would know that Tony has bonus rounds and extra exercises on certain DVDs to up your workout when you are ready for it. He also shows SEVERAL methods for doing many exersicses which take it from easy, harder, to advanced. In addition, there is beachbody.com (tied to the p90x program) for 24 hour advice, diet and exercise tips, answers, and fresh approaches to workouts. It is a LIFELONG program if you are actually willing and committed enough to work. Most people probably aren't.

 

The only con may be the price. At first it is a little pricey. If you are not commited and are just going to fall off the program and let the DVDs and weights and pull-up bars collect dust, then yeah you can argue it wasn't worth it.

 

If you are committed and want to stick to it, then it will be worth every penny. Even if you do fall off it for awhile, it will always be there to come back to and it is a CLASSIC workout program. The classics always stay relevant.

 

There is only so much a workout program can do. It can't hand you the results while you sit on the couch watching with a bag of chips. It DOES give you all the tools you need to stay in shape and RIPPED your entire life.

Edited March 3, 2011 by starryeyed12

[tman666]

The original poster asked, is p90x worth it? I'm glad we are back to that.

 

If you skim to your main points, first you said it wasn't intense enough (wrong). Now you seem to be saying that people who ACHIEVE AMAZING RESULTS are foolish for thinking highly of it. And this is foolish because they need to "add a shot of intensity."

 

If you were an actual p90x participant you would know that Tony has bonus rounds and extra exercises on certain DVDs to up your workout when you are ready for it. He also shows SEVERAL methods for doing many exersicses which take it from easy, harder, to advanced. In addition, there is beachbody.com (tied to the p90x program) for 24 hour advice, diet and exercise tips, answers, and fresh approaches to workouts. It is a LIFELONG program if you are actually willing and committed enough to work. Most people probably aren't.

 

The only con may be the price. At first it is a little pricey. If you are not commited and are just going to fall off the program and let the DVDs and weights and pull-up bars collect dust, then yeah you can argue it wasn't worth it.

 

If you are committed and want to stick to it, then it will be worth every penny. Even if you do fall off it for awhile, it will always be there to come back to and it is a CLASSIC workout program. The classics always stay relevant.

 

There is only so much a workout program can do. It can't hand you the results while you sit on the couch watching with a bag of chips. It DOES give you all the tools you need to stay in shape and RIPPED your entire life.

 

You are correct in saying that I haven't done P90x as an entire program, as its training and nutritional parameters would not do much to help me progress towards my overall goal. Regarding intensity, please see my earlier post regarding the variable and relative nature of "intensity" amongst different individuals.

 

Where did I say that people are foolish for thinking highly of something that gave them good results?

 

Here's what I'm trying to get at: what makes P90x a better program than any other combination of hard training+proper diet (i.e. proper caloric intake relative to the goal, enough protein, carbs, EFAs, etc.) for losing fat?

 

Also, how are you quantifying "ripped" and "in shape"? In shape compared to what? It won't get you in shape for bodybuilding, or powerlifting, or rugby, gymnastics, sprinting, cross country skiing or any other specific activity. Each of those activities require specific athletic abilities and skills to be well developed. That's the entire point of a program like P90x. It's a general physical preparedness program. There's nothing wrong with that either. The vast majority of people (including, I'm guessing, the original poster) don't have specific athletic goals or activities to train for, nor do they want them. Most people just want to not huff and puff going up stairs, be able to ride bikes with their significant others and kids, and feel good about themselves when they look in the mirror. To each their own. Again, there's nothing wrong with not having a goal.

 

However, making a sweeping statement that a GPP program like P90x will get you "ripped and in shape" is too nebulous and unquantifiable to be taken at face value. As long as the OP knows what P90x can and cannot do for him, and how such a program stacks up against other forms of hard training and proper nutrition, he can make his decision with both eyes wide open and feel good about it.

[starryeyed12]

You are correct in saying that I haven't done P90x as an entire program

 

Where did I say that people are foolish for thinking highly of something that gave them good results?

 

Here's what I'm trying to get at: what makes P90x a better program than any other combination of hard training+proper diet (i.e. proper caloric intake relative to the goal, enough protein, carbs, EFAs, etc.) for losing fat?

 

Also, how are you quantifying "ripped" and "in shape"?

 

As long as the OP knows what P90x can and cannot do for him, and how such a program stacks up against other forms of hard training and proper nutrition, he can make his decision with both eyes wide open and feel good about it.

 

Wow, tmann, where do I even begin....

 

The first highlighted statement above make makes it completely clear that you have VERY LITTLE basis to making your own sweeping generalizations about the p90x workout program. It is not a "general physical preparedness program." I can call it an "extreme intense mindblowing workout program" and that would be about as arbitrary as the term you are trying to use for it. The point people need to know is that you must be in relatively good shape to begin this program. If you need more clarification please let me know.

 

You have not done the program as a whole as directed, nor do you know about many of the key elements to the program, which I have listed in previous posts. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but personally, coming from someone who is an outsider to the program, I take your opinion of it with a nice, big grain of salt.

 

Where did draw the conclusion that you think people who achieve real results from p90x are foolish for thinking highly of it?

 

You said the line,

"What gets my goat is when people think that taking shortcuts and "going through the motions" should yield the same results as someone who is consistently pushing themselves and striving to improve their performance, even if it's in small increments. For most people, a shot of intensity (within reason) is a sorely needed addition to their workouts. It's the reason why programs like P90x and Crossfit have so many followers that, after achieving visible results for the first time in their lives, are absolutely convinced that their respective programs are the end-all."

 

Did you read my post about what tools p90x offers for the growing participant? Do that again.

 

The third highlighed quote:

Here's what I'm trying to get at: what makes P90x a better program than any other combination of hard training+proper diet (i.e. proper caloric intake relative to the goal, enough protein, carbs, EFAs, etc.) for losing fat?

 

You can go about your own routine and if it works for you then work it! But most people are not as educated in physical fitness and exercise and diet. This program maps it all out for you. Not only that, but the workouts are classic, time tested, as challenging as you choose to make it and put together by trained and certified professionals. They know the ins and outs of this field. You may know them too or research on your own. Good for you.

 

The fourth highlighted quote, Also, how are you quantifying "ripped" and "in shape"?

 

Ok, so now you want to argue about the term in-shape and ripped??

In shape means very good physical condition and ripped means your body fat is low and your muscle mass is high. Generally, this means you can see the muscles through the epidermis. Clear enough for ya?

No one said you will become a professional athelete after 90 days, tmann. Come on now.

Please note that phxsun said, "Personally, I like P90X because a lot of the work outs like cardio and plyo are great for sports. I play basketball and it's gotten me into the best shape of my life. Rather than working on the routines that make you look good (like biceps, legs and back), I only work on the routines that would translate to better on court performance. In that aspect, it's helped me keep to P90X and fit in general."

 

You must have skipped over that.

 

Lastly,

"As long as the OP knows what P90x can and cannot do for him, and how such a program stacks up against other forms of hard training and proper nutrition, he can make his decision with both eyes wide open and feel good about it"

 

He won't know exactly what p90x will do for him until he tries it. If he wants a solid, well put together program to get him ripped, this is it.

[josie54]

Perhaps I overreacted as well. Just as you got defensive when I said that "P90x was for the average person looking to trim up", I tend to get a little sensitive when I feel like I'm being compared to those brainless folks that you mentioned who ascribe fitness to a very specific accomplishment such as running sub 7 minute miles or bench pressing 200 lbs. In addition, I too despise the increasing perception that annihilating one's body is the best and only way to become a good athlete, or even just more physically fit. It's an absurdity that turns a lot of people away from smart, hard training that could make a massive difference in their lives.

 

....

 

My main point is that many (not saying you're included in this group, btw) end up treating these programs like a holy tome. And really, I don't mean to just single out P90x and Crossfit here. It could be any training/diet philosophy.

 

Overall, I think that P90x is a well balanced program. Just like every other program, it's got its pros and cons. While it may be something that I couldn't justify spending money on, it could be worth every penny for someone who is looking for an all inclusive guide to improving their general fitness.

 

Excellent--I agree that it's all definitely relative. This program is definitely not the "secret." It's just another form of the tried-and-true way to get fit--eat right and work hard. No matter how you do those things, if you find a program you can stick to you should get results. And, tman, I'm glad we're on friendly terms again! I promise to totally watch my tone from now on.

 

And it looks like I need to follow your regimen, starreyeyed. I started doing P90X last year and I got through two weeks of doing the program to the letter, and I saw a huge difference--more muscle definition, pounds lost--in just that time.

 

But then my attention span lagged, and I went back to my old routine for the most part (jogging a few miles a few times a week, jumping rope, and throwing in a couple of strength training sessions), so I didn't keep that definition for long. I'm also 5'6", but I'm 140. That's after losing 20 pounds a few years ago. I've kept that off, but I'd love to get down to 130 and really get defined, as it looked like I was starting to do with that first two weeks. Maybe I'll try to get back on the P90X wagon.

 

And now the OP has to come back so we can see if we've answered his question!

[starryeyed12]

And now the OP has to come back so we can see if we've answered his question!

 

 

We probably scared him off at this point! I hope he comes back though! lol

[Mattock5656]

We probably scared him off at this point! I hope he comes back though! lol

 

 

Haha, I'm here guys lol...I was just gone for some time and had to spend time reading each of your well-thought out posts. Thank you so much! I went ahead and bought it and based on what you guys said it is even more convincing.

Like Star said, the price was kinda expensive, but of what I read it could get me at least in shape. Of course, I know this won't happen overnight and will take quite of bit of dedication but I think If I ever stop doing it; I can always come back to it. I do do regular jogging, dumbbells and ab exercises but I feel more comfortable when somebody is doing exercises in front of me(on a TV in this case) in that I feel more motivated.

 

I know this all depends all on my goals and such but I have about 10 pounds give or take to lose around my waist/stomach area and I have a question for you guys. Should I go on the lean program to trim the fat off or do I start building muscle? Sorry, if this is a retarded question but I was wondering.

 

Also, should I follow the diet to the T or can I eat healthy and maybe have a cheat day? Or eat in different ways? I'm not sure...

[starryeyed12]

I'm glad we didn't scare you off! And I do agree with Tman that it is very much possible to come up with your own workout program that matches this and even more taliored to your own wants and needs.

 

That said, congrats! I really hope that you can stick with it because it is tough, but so worth it!

 

Of 9 people I know (myself included) only 3 of us have been able to make it through so far. It's a lot of dedication, but I truly look and feel amazing. I can't wait til the weather turns warmer here to show off my hard work!

 

The lean is mostly the program recommended for women to get sleek and sexy. You suppliment a few workouts from the classic version.

 

IMO, if that is you in your avitar, I would go for the classic. I'm acutally doing the classic because when my ex and I started we wanted to stay in the same program. I modify by doing low weights, high reps. The classic has a lot more pull-ups and push-ups as well.

 

As for the diet, I am pretty strict. I only cheat twice a week (sometimes 3 days), usually on the weekend. I don't go overboard with the cheating and binge eat all day though. Also, I am following the portion plan. I followed phase one fat shredder and moved to phase two energy. I am not going to change to phase three. The diet is a HUGE part in any workout. That said, I know people who didn't follow the diet at all and still lost 10 pounds. Depends on how drastic you want your results to be.

 

Hopefully, josie or some other p90xer's can give you their story as well. Keep us posted on your progress!

[tman666]

He won't know exactly what p90x will do for him until he tries it.

 

Haha, well I definitely agree with you on this point. Looks like we'll probably just have to agree to disagree on others.

 

General Physical Preparedness is a term that is used to describe training designed to increase general work capacity.

 

Check this out: http://www.ironlife.com/mag/issue22/gettingtoknow.shtml

Edited March 4, 2011 by tman666

[starryeyed12]

Yes, let us agree to disagree. I'll check out your link. Sorry, if I came down hard on your posts...I obviously have too much time on my hands! :)

[josie54]

Well, this thread has inspired me to try to stick to the P90X program for the full 90 days--I would love to get back into "hard body" shape! Did chest/back/abs this morning. I'd also love to fulfill a life's goal of running a marathon someday, so it's time to get serious about that. I can run a couple miles, but that's nothing compared to 26.2, so maybe after the 90 days I can start a running regimen.

 

I've also checked out the link you provided, tman, to better inform myself about that form of training. I know it's not for my particular goals (as a woman, I'm not looking to bodybuild, but to decrease body fat, increase stamina, and improve toning), but when it comes to fitness, more information is better.

[tman666]

I've also checked out the link you provided, tman, to better inform myself about that form of training. I know it's not for my particular goals (as a woman, I'm not looking to bodybuild, but to decrease body fat, increase stamina, and improve toning), but when it comes to fitness, more information is better.

 

The link I posted talks about the importance of GPP training for making a specialized athlete more able to capitalize on their specific training via increased work capacity, lower bodyfat, better endurance, etc.

 

What I'm saying is that P90x is a GPP program. Earlier, offense was taken to this assertion. By providing a link, I hoped to dispel the notion that calling P90x a GPP program was in any way, shape or form, an insult.

[josie54]

The link I posted talks about the importance of GPP training for making a specialized athlete more able to capitalize on their specific training via increased work capacity, lower bodyfat, better endurance, etc.

 

What I'm saying is that P90x is a GPP program. Earlier, offense was taken to this assertion. By providing a link, I hoped to dispel the notion that calling P90x a GPP program was in any way, shape or form, an insult.

 

I jumped to the link and saw the paragraphs about "powerlifting" and got thrown off track. All is understood now!

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[Mattock5656]

Hey guys, I just wanted to update on my adventures with p90x...

 

I got it about 2 weeks ago but apparently, I pulled a back muscle in which I have no clue how I did it. I believe it was due to not stretching enough. So, I had p90x sitting there but did not want to do anything before all my muscles were healed and ready to go. For about a week, I did tons of cardio and some upper body strength moves before I tried p90x.

 

Finally, I started my first day today which is the chest/back DVD. Boy, I feel like I just hit in the balls and thrown off a bridge lol.. Either way, I survived and felt so good afterwards even though I am only on day 1. Although, the ab ripper was brutal afterwards, as I was already tired from the other workout.. I could only do for the most part 5-10 of each move. Some of the moves, I felt I doing them incorrectly but I guess I will perfect it with time.

 

Overall, seems like a good day and I definitely like Tony as he is funny and very motivating. Also, I have been eating pretty good and cut all the nasty junk out of my diet.

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