Greta Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I'm very curious about what the appeal is, for all of you that have been/gone, of going to strip clubs. Please feel free to expound on this, as many of us women are interested to understand. And don't be afraid to be completely honest - we want the good, the bad, and the ugly Link to post Share on other sites
UCFKevin Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Seeing naked women dance. That's about it. Link to post Share on other sites
NotaBadGuy Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I would have to admit that I have been to strip clubs in the past, but I do not like them. I do not respect the women who do strip and often left frustrated knowing that I just had watched/spent X amount of dollars on someone who's had X number of men/women rubbing thier paws over thier bodies all night long. Nothing appealing there for me. This, however, is expressly my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
InmannRoshi Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 A girl being non-hostile towards you. Link to post Share on other sites
Darkangelism Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 the looking, though the no touch rule is always a problem,lol Link to post Share on other sites
Aire Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 lol...do you see how simple their minds are Greta? They just want to look at naked women. It's to bad that we don't have the option to change sexes for a day. Everything would be so much easier to understand. I'm betting that men go just to look and don't think much more then that about it and women think that men are going...standing around and thinking things like...wow, wish my gf/wife was like her or damn, I wish I could take her home tonight. I don't know, maybe they do think those things but I think most men just have simple minds and most women have complicated minds. We are never going to understand each other. /sigh Link to post Share on other sites
Fritz Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I wish I could have at least a week in a woman's body to try and figure them out. Of course, I'd probably never leave the house. Strip clubs for me are just a way to admire a woman doing a sexy dance/tease. Sometimes it seems to cheapen both them and me but like Kevin said, its mostly about seeing nekkid women dance. Link to post Share on other sites
dolphinsunshyn Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Heck, I'm a woman and I even like going to strip clubs! Why don't you go yourself to see what the men like about them? I got a stack of free passes if you ever make to the St. louis area. LOL It is just another form of entertainment. It is all about fantasy. Some can even go as far to call it an "art". Women are beautiful and it is perfectly fine to admire them. I don't think it is a threat. When I have a boyfriend, I usually am the one that suggests going! LOL They love it. Especially if the dancer is paying "extra" attention to me. And, no, I'm not a lesbian. It is just all in good fun. Link to post Share on other sites
jmargel Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I went with some male friends and it really wasn't much to it. Though I'm looking forward to going with my fiancee Any guy who goes to a strip club and compares them to their gf or wife is an ass. All I know is male strip clubs are ALOT worse. My ex went to one and the stuff that was going on there, those women were cheating. I got pissed when she told me the one was putting money down her shirt and picking it out with his teeth. She then mentioned her friend who was also engaged was full mouth kissing another one. I was seriously thinking of leaving her when that happened.. I should have. Link to post Share on other sites
zarathustra Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I've been to two and didn't like them. I couldn't distance from the women. I knew they were just working and that they had families, etc. It's easier to fantasize with porn. I kept giving them biographies as they performed-- filling in their lives. Also, it's a turn-off to look at naked women with a bunch of men. Other lookers detract from the experience. These clubs just don't do it for me. Link to post Share on other sites
corythosaurus Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Originally posted by dolphinsunshyn Heck, I'm a woman and I even like going to strip clubs! Why don't you go yourself to see what the men like about them? I got a stack of free passes if you ever make to the St. louis area. LOL It is just another form of entertainment. It is all about fantasy. Some can even go as far to call it an "art". Women are beautiful and it is perfectly fine to admire them. I don't think it is a threat. When I have a boyfriend, I usually am the one that suggests going! LOL They love it. Especially if the dancer is paying "extra" attention to me. And, no, I'm not a lesbian. It is just all in good fun. He'll be a lucky fella! Link to post Share on other sites
fredrolin Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I am a 40 year old married man and I have probably been to a strip club about 8 to 10 times in my life. Sure, I love to see sexy women naked or nearly naked, but I know they are only friendly to me because they want the money in my pocket. It is there job to turn the guys on and I know they are faking in order to earn a good tip so it is sort of all so stupid. I remember one time this chick was dancing on the bar in front of my friend and I. She had the body of a 12 year old girl; she was flat chested and skinny. My friend and I sat and talked and we didn't pay any attention to her as she danced in our faces for 10 minutes. She finally got mad and yelled at us "why aren't you watching me?". We laughed and she gave us a dirty look and moved on to the next dude at the bar. Link to post Share on other sites
InmannRoshi Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Sure, I love to see sexy women naked or nearly naked, but I know they are only friendly to me because they want the money in my pocket. I"m not a big fan of strip clubs, but I hear this all the time and wonder "How is this different from any othe service industry". Next time you go to a restaurant and have that nice cheery waiter asking you if you'd like a refill and listens with empathy as you explain that your steak isn't cooked the way you like it ... just remember ... he hates your guts, and he's only being nice to you because he wants a tip. Link to post Share on other sites
fredrolin Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Originally posted by InmannRoshi Next time you go to a restaurant and have that nice cheery waiter asking you if you'd like a refill and listens with empathy as you explain that your steak isn't cooked the way you like it ... just remember ... he hates your guts, and he's only being nice to you because he wants a tip. I don't know if the waiter "hates my guts" (if he does he probably will spit on my steak before he brings it back). But yes, in the service industry you are forced to be "nice, friendly, and cooperative" to keep your job. When a stripper is giving you a lap dance and acting like she digs you it plays with your emotions. As soon as the cash transation is over you are dirt and she is squatting over the next guy. A waiter being friendly to all customers isn't that big a deal; I can usually tell if they are genuinely friendly or acting friendly. Link to post Share on other sites
Dug Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I don't really enjoy strip clubs any more than I would a dik teaser at the office or on a date. If guys encountered a dik tease, they would post a new string about her on here. As for women who go along when their men go....I suspect they themselves look attractive enough not to be intimidated, but once they look older and alot less appealing than the girls stripping, the tagging along will suside. Link to post Share on other sites
dolphinsunshyn Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Originally posted by corythosaurus He'll be a lucky fella! Awww....Thanks Cory. I like to think I'm a pretty damn cool girlfriend. It's just a matter of finding a guy! LOL Huge shortage in the midwest. I love your avatar -- it's halarious!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Greta Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 This has all been very enlightening, please feel free to keep commenting. It would seem that the general concensus is that strip clubs are all about the visual and not much else, one question though, do any of you guys know another male who was really hooked on going? If so, what were his reasons (if you know)? Link to post Share on other sites
zarathustra Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I don't know anyone personally but in the Philadelphia area, a few years ago, there was this middle class professional man who murdered his wife because he fell in love with a stripper at a local strip joint. The husband, then the father of a 2 year old daughter, strangled his lawyer wife in the family bath tub, and pretended that an intruder had murdered her. The cops nailed him pretty quickly. Hubby was spending about $15,000 a year on this stripper--and they weren't even lovers. He's now serving life without parole. The daughter is being raised by the maternal grandparents. Link to post Share on other sites
ARES Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I think its more of a desire, seeing women dance is hot. I hate to say this and its going to sound bad sorry if it offends anybody. What men want is a slut in the bedroom but a lady in public, and going to a strip bar turns us on because there are supposed to be like sluts...But don't get me wrong men don't want true sluts we just like to look.... -Chris- hope that made sense Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 I just want to go see naked women who aren't my significant other. I honestly think all men are hard wired for variety, I've chosen to make that commitment, but I enjoy variety! I don't sit there and think, wow, she's hotter than my girlfriend, because my girlfriend is damn hot, but I do sit there and think, wow, I wonder how this woman looks like naked, gyrating, and dancing in front of me. Men like variety, the secret, and my girlfriend understands this, is that allowing a man freedom to enjoy some eye candy and variety, it diffuses his innate desires to want to be with another woman. I love and respect my girlfriend so much because she is secure in who she is, isn't neurotic like many women who have their own issues to work out, and she trusts me and I trust her, Often times, we go to strip clubs together, she buys me lap dances, and we come home having a wonderful time! I am so glad I am with my girlfriend! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Greta Posted April 7, 2004 Author Share Posted April 7, 2004 Well, what about the men who do more than just look, the ones that pay for lap dances and/or to go into the "champaigne room's" ? I would think it might be hard for their SO to keep giving them the freedom, & trust, to enjoy their "eye candy", knowing that they are doing more than just looking. Because there are probably some men who would think 'Well, she knows I'm going there - she knows I'm buying lap dances, and she doesn't pitch a fit when I go - sooo she won't care if I do a little touchy/feely' But I suppose that's where good communication and boundary setting come into play, but on the other hand, those SO may be thinking 'I love him and would never behave like that with another man, and I know he loves me - so therefore he will never behave with another woman that way' so they don't feel the need to literally come out and say 'No lap dances, etc.' because they assume their man already knows this - when in truth he may not. I know strange (ie bad) things can happen when you mix men drinking beer & naked women acting "like sluts" Link to post Share on other sites
dolphinsunshyn Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by Greta Well, what about the men who do more than just look, the ones that pay for lap dances and/or to go into the "champaigne room's" ? I would think it might be hard for their SO to keep giving them the freedom, & trust, to enjoy their "eye candy", knowing that they are doing more than just looking. Because there are probably some men who would think 'Well, she knows I'm going there - she knows I'm buying lap dances, and she doesn't pitch a fit when I go - sooo she won't care if I do a little touchy/feely' That is just a matter of common sense (or lack there of). If he feels the need to push the boundries even when he is with a woman who can trust him (and grants him that freedom without complaining), THEN he probably is a guy that is just prone to cheat and doesn't respect the relationship anyway. As much as beer, cheap women, and other guys come into play, a guy worth trusting (and worth being with) will not do anything more than enjoy the scenery. Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh Anne Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by dolphinsunshyn That is just a matter of common sense (or lack there of). If he feels the need to push the boundries even when he is with a woman who can trust him (and grants him that freedom without complaining), THEN he probably is a guy that is just prone to cheat and doesn't respect the relationship anyway. As much as beer, cheap women, and other guys come into play, a guy worth trusting (and worth being with) will not do anything more than enjoy the scenery. I completely agree! Trust isn't about control and discipline! The type of guy who has lack of respect for his SO will cheat, regardless of whether she gives him the space and freedom or whether she locks him down and keeps a hawk's eye on him. A man will cheat if he is that type of person! As women, we sometimes feel that if we keep our men on lock, that somehow they will have less of an opportunity to cheat. This is a myth, because a man who does not respect his woman will find a way to cheat, and furthermore, will be very secretive about his activities. Originally posted by Greta I know strange (ie bad) things can happen when you mix men drinking beer & naked women acting "like sluts" As a feminist, I am completely offended by so many women on this board who call strippers sluts and whores! I have had female friends who have stripped to put themselves through law and medical school! These women are in no way interested in, or pursuing your man. Your SOs voluntarily frequent strip clubs, no one is holding guns to their heads and forcing them to do so. Strippers understand that this is a job, and as long as your husbands are coming in, then business continues to thrive. While ideally, strip clubs should only be frequented by single, unattached men, the fact that married men continue to frequent strip clubs is not the dancers' problem. Pure economics, supply and demand! You are not a dancer, have never been in their shoes (or heels), and you definitely don't understand their reasons for doing what they do; whether it's school, putting food on the table for their children. Unless you do, you do not have the right and/or audacity to judge people based on circumstances you are not aware of!!! This self righteous attitude is not attractive! Instead of blaming the sex industry and dancers, blame your man! He's the one who went to a strip club and had some fun with the strippers in the Champaign Room; totally disrespecting you! Link to post Share on other sites
dolphinsunshyn Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by Leigh Anne As a feminist, I am completely offended by so many women on this board who call strippers sluts and whores! In Greta's defense, I think she made the "like sluts" comment because of a previous post. A male poster explained the attraction to strip clubs by men. He said that men like an innocent girl on the outside of the bedroom, but they like a "slut" in the bedroom. That is why they go to strip clubs to fantasize about it having a "slutty" sexy type of girl. Hence, the "slut" comment. You noticed she put it in quotes. I just wanted to clear that up before a fight broke out. LOL Anyway, I do agree completely with you about the women who strip. I, too, know many strippers and most of them either do it because they are putting themselves through school or are single moms trying to get by. Link to post Share on other sites
fredrolin Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Any mature sensable guy knows that these dancing chicks are only showing off there bodies to get the cash in my pocket. I would rather have a fully clothed woman be around me because she really liked me than some phony stripper. Link to post Share on other sites
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