Any geniuses around?

[snug.bunny]

where you do get the idea that he thinks he is "superior"?

 

Probably because of this statement:

 

Experienced daters of lower IQ need not respond

 

What does that statement imply exactly?

[brainygirl]

I think the OP needs to lighten up. He talks about Ethics and morality . . . which is all well and good. But with all his brain power, he has yet to explain WHY its unethical for one consenting, sexually mature adult, to sleep with another.

 

He talks about being very capable of "taking care of himself" which is also fine, but most camps who disapprove of sex and disapprove of masturbation. So, again what's the basis of the OPs disapproval?

 

The OP also have failed to state WHAT he wants in a relationship. Companianship? Sexual fulfillment? Sharing the burden of life? Fun? entertainment? reproduction?

 

I'm a pretty smart person. I aced every standerized test they could throw at me in school, was in gifted and offered multiple free ride scholarships based on my ACT scores.

 

But being good at taking tests doesn't make you good at life. I've made my share of mistakes including over-thinking situations that I should have just gone with. I too, tend to think that logic and reason can solve any problem so that things shake out in my own favor.

 

This is not always true.

 

So, like I said, he needs to loosen up and lighten up. If he doesn't want to drink, don't drink. If he wants a fellow virgin, date a nice mormon girl. (joke).

 

OR, he could re-examine WHY he's requiring these qualities in a mate. And in challenging his own assumptions of what makes for a good mate, he may be able to refine what he wants and how he goes about getting it.

[Mrlonelyone]

That statement implies that experienced daters of lower IQ don't have the same issues of life as someone of higher IQ.

 

It's just like if I was asking about interracial relationships and I said.

 

"People who have never been in an interracial relationship need not respond."

 

Because such people would not know what being in an IR relationship is like.

 

What issues of life you may ask? Let me put it this way.

 

I was on a vacation once. There was a really nice man who was autistic and had an IQ of 65 or 70. (30 pts below average) He would run around and announce that it was dinner time when it was breakfast and breakfast time when it was dinner. No matter how anyone tried to explain to him that he had it wrong he just did not get it.

 

He was a really nice guy with lots of knowledge about people and relationships... but he couldn't tie his own shoes.

 

I became friends with him while I was in that particular hotel.

 

To a person who's IQ is 30 pts above average... there are times when it feels like talking to someone like that man when we are speaking to the average.

 

Before you get offended at me and call me "arrogant" for saying that. Examine your own attitudes towards people who's IQ is about 70. Don't project your way of looking at them onto my way of looking at you. IQ is not the full measure of a person be they 30 pts above or below the average.

 

There is not a distinction between people of differing IQ... but there is a difference of some kind. Do you have a problem using that when it demonstrates the deficiency of the mentally challenged? Why so much friction on the other side of that spectrum?

 

@brainy girl

 

You are very right he should loosen up a bit. At 35 finding a virgin is a ship that has sailed.

 

I'm also very sure that your kind of response will make you allot of friends since it is fashionable at the moment to attack the OP in this thread.

Edited March 22, 2011 by Mrlonelyone

[Scottdmw]

Chess,

 

I will try to answer as best I can what you seem to specifically be looking for-- examples of others in your situation.

 

I've never taken an IQ test, but I've scored in the top 1% on standardized tests such as the SAT and GRE, so I think it's fair to say I'm bright.

 

In my experience it's important to have a “mission” in life, something you are trying to accomplish that you think is useful or good. Something that you can get excited about when you get out of bed in the morning. In your case (and mine too) something you can put your intellect to work on, so that it has a purpose beyond itself. Something that will really use your abilities and tax them to their fullest.

 

I have found this helps me a lot in relating with women. When I'm trying to work towards my “mission” my head is in the right place, so to speak. I'm focused on what I'm trying to do, rather than focused on trying to impress a woman. Paradoxically, that can be impressive to a woman. People talk about confidence, but I find it's easy to have natural confidence when I'm doing something I think is important and doing it well.

 

If you perform well on your “mission”, people will respect that, men and women both. The more respect you get from all the men and women in your life, the more you will be naturally attractive to women.

 

On the other hand if you don't have a “mission” I find it leads to boredom, depression, listlessness, and a general lack of energy. All of these things are unattractive. If you really do have an extremely high IQ, it makes it even worse, because maybe people can sense that you have a high potential that you are not using.

 

 

A big trap I've had difficulty with is expecting women or dating to conform to my idea of what they should be like. It can be difficult when you think you are the smartest person around, because maybe you really can figure out what everyone else should be doing. Then, you have to watch them do things that you rightly believe are very nonoptimal. It took me a long time to really get through my head that women and dating are the way they are. No amount of intelligence on my part is ever going to change that.

 

As a corollary, I've spent a lot of wasted time trying to argue women into dating me, or dating the kind of people I think they should. This is useless. Think of it this way. Most of the time when you are talking to a person about dating, you are really only “talking” to their cerebral cortex for want of a better word. You can shoot the breeze all day with that. But, at the end of the day that's not the part of the brain that makes the decision. You are not talking to the part of the brain that makes the decision, that part is not amenable to discussion. It wants what it wants. What that is only changes over evolutionary time scales. I would suggest you need to get that through your head thoroughly and consider the implications.

 

If you want to date women, you absolutely must do it on their terms. You must provide them what they want if you are able to do so. It doesn't matter if what they want is senseless, irrational, or nonoptimal. It is what it is and they can’t change it even if they want to. You can choose to deal with it or not.

 

I've also had a lot of problems in my life with taking things too literally. Women tell me things like “I don't want to date a man for reason X”, and I tended to believe that that is the literal truth. What I've come to understand is that women most often do not use the literal truth. They don't use the same words I would use to describe a situation. If a woman doesn't want to date a man, she will give a reason, but it is rarely the real reason. It is not useful spending a lot of time trying to sift through a woman's reasons and motivations or understand the particular words she chooses to use. Usually either a woman will like you in which case her behaviors towards you and words towards you will be positive, or she won't like you in which case the opposite happens. It's easy to tell those two apart, and that's all you need to know. To sum that up, don't waste a lot of time getting hung up on logical inconsistencies.

 

Scott

[Intricategirl]

The thing is intricate... where you do get the idea that he thinks he is "superior"?

 

Experienced daters of lower IQ need not respond.

If you lived in a world with only lower mammals...

As I said, I don't expect most people to believe what I'm saying or really have a clue about the nature of my situation.

Thank you for managing to lower my opinion of humanity even further. I didn't think that was even possible for me any longer.

...been viewed as the "smartest guy" people know. I also felt that way about myself until I went to the main campus of my college...

 

 

All on the first page... And I reject that it's simply a having a different issue of life matter. It's dismissive of those who have a lower IQ. They cannot possibly understand... Look, substitute a bodybuilder or a millionaire. Make it someone you can't relate to, but where "life issues" are still a predominant factor in their inability to relate to other people. It would still be dismissive.

 

Look, my IQ is high. I understand exactly what it's like to not be able to discuss the nature of something with others because all you're going to get is a look that says "I don't follow". I understand making it all the way through my BS, and still not finding a single class that really was challenging. I get the problems that come from it and I get them from experience. So what? I can find a way to exist in this world, or I can create a new one. That new one may be beautiful and filled with things that other people don't have the mental capacity to understand, or it can be bitter because I'm upset that I really want a way in theirs and can't figure it out. And my posts were urging the OP to choose to make a beautiful new world where he doesn't have to compromise.

 

Now, to the autistic man... My son has a HIGH IQ. The kid was reading and understanding Steven Hawking when he was 7 or 8 years old. We lived in a small town, and they had a gifted program. But it didn't start until 2nd grade. I was in an uproar, and I voiced it to his teacher (who agreed with me). See, if a kid was mentally challenged, they wouldn't make him wait until 2nd grade to get help. But my son is just as "special education" as those kids. He needs just as much help, but in a different direction. He still had trouble up until halfway through this year (he's in 5th grade and a different school system now). His teachers saw his lack of turning in assignments as an inability to do the work. He wasn't turning them in because it was boring for him to regurgitate facts without trying to do something new with them. He didn't want to think of it in the "here's the crap other people have learned" mode. He wanted to take it to the next step.

 

And all of that's well and good. It's the route Einstein went, and he did okay for himself. But what I continue to tell him is that he will turn in his homework because that's what he has to do to get good grades and keep me from yelling. I told him that being smart does not give you license to be an ass. You do the homework because you've got to prove you're capable or nobody will give you a chance. And once you've got the chance, you can really blow them out of the water with something they never considered. But if you can't figure out how to relate to those with average intelligence, you're never going to be able to explain yourself well enough to get the grant money to do something amazing. Nobody cares what you think, they care what you do. So offer them that proof of what you can do, and they'll give you the freedom to think.

[brainygirl]

That statement implies that experienced daters of lower IQ don't have the same issues of life as someone of higher IQ.

 

It's just like if I was asking about interracial relationships and I said.

 

"People who have never been in an interracial relationship need not respond."

 

Because such people would not know what being in an IR relationship is like.

 

What issues of life you may ask? Let me put it this way.

 

I was on a vacation once. There was a really nice man who was autistic and had an IQ of 65 or 70. (30 pts below average) He would run around and announce that it was dinner time when it was breakfast and breakfast time when it was dinner. No matter how anyone tried to explain to him that he had it wrong he just did not get it.

 

He was a really nice guy with lots of knowledge about people and relationships... but he couldn't tie his own shoes.

 

I became friends with him while I was in that particular hotel.

 

To a person who's IQ is 30 pts above average... there are times when it feels like talking to someone like that man when we are speaking to the average.

 

Before you get offended at me and call me "arrogant" for saying that. Examine your own attitudes towards people who's IQ is about 70. Don't project your way of looking at them onto my way of looking at you. IQ is not the full measure of a person be they 30 pts above or below the average.

 

There is not a distinction between people of differing IQ... but there is a difference of some kind. Do you have a problem using that when it demonstrates the deficiency of the mentally challenged? Why so much friction on the other side of that spectrum?

 

@brainy girl

 

You are very right he should loosen up a bit. At 35 finding a virgin is a ship that has sailed.

 

I'm also very sure that your kind of response will make you allot of friends since it is fashionable at the moment to attack the OP in this thread.

 

Funny, thought I was helping the guy out. I can attack people, you haven't seen it yet, but I can do it.

[Mrlonelyone]

In short nerdy terms...even Vulcans go berserk and act primal when they are horny every 7 years. (At least they get fixed up for it.)

[Intricategirl]

Oh, and let me be clear... I was not attacking the OP in any way. He was acting superior, and I'm suggesting he knock it off and find a nice, smart girl to settle down with. SOOO far from an attack. Besides, when I attack, it's pretty unmistakable. There's usually a lot of f-words, and occasionally a reference to their mother's extracurricular activities.

[utterer of lies]

Nobody cares what you think, they care what you do. So offer them that proof of what you can do, and they'll give you the freedom to think.

 

This.

 

Very good post.

[Mrlonelyone]

Intricate

 

It could be that you are projecting your issues with you and your sons gift on the OP. One common way to deal with the difference is to deny it exist or makes no difference. I did that. It irritated people more when I would talk to the kids in my class about George Wills grilling of sec of stae Weinberger on "This Week With David Brinkley"... or would say outloud yes! When I scored a grade level of 12 plus on my Isat's in 4th or 3rd grade.

 

Sometimes its more socially skilled to realize your difference and choose who to speak to carefully.

 

 

One way demonstrates the difference the other only implies it. Which is really worse?

[andrew-bkk]

I have a high IQ. I was invited to take the entrance exam for Oxford University when I was 18.

 

I also have a male model figure. True! I'm six foot one and a half; I have a 32 inch waist; 34 inch legs; and a 40 inch chest.

 

More importantly, I have a gorgeous six year-old son.

 

Inadequates think only about themselves. They obsess. They indulge in self-pity. In simple English, they just get things wrong.

 

Real men are different. Real men know how to interact. Real men know how to form and maintain adult relationships. Real men love their children.

 

Some of the garbage I've read on this thread is absolutely pitiful.

[Intricategirl]

One way demonstrates the difference the other only implies it. Which is really worse?

 

Ah, but I can turn that right back on you and say that possibly you're projecting as well. Your experiences have led you to a different means of dealing with life. Not better. Different.

[Happy Finally]

If you lived in a world with only lower mammals, I doubt you would want to lower yourself down to that animal level in order to find "happiness" with one. It's not a great analogy but it's the best way I can describe it. I don't state that as my definitive situation, but I fear I may be facing something like it, which is why I asked the question. If there are some very left-brained geniuses who have managed to find success with women despite that, or somehow including that, that's what I want to hear about. Or if other left-brained geniuses want to state similar stories of failures or why they gave up on the whole mess, that would also be helpful. Newton is dead so I can't really ask his opinion.

 

 

Lower mammal here. No there are not any that have success. Especially one that display narcissism and arrogance.

 

 

I see lists of things you're supposed to be. Confidence is primary on that list. Why does every guy have to be "confident" in order to have success? Just forget everything you learned about dating and actually think about that for a moment. These kinds of "requirements to fit the mold" -- I see them as people just giving up on any kind of self-betterment as human beings and giving in to their animal nature. Women always choosing their mate based on genetic drive rather than their own intellect. Aren't there women out there that are better than this?

 

Confidence is important because women do not want somebody that is not sure of themselves. They want someone who knows what they want, knows that they can get it and then show them they they want them. You can't do that with out confidence. You can be sensitive all the while being confident. This is different than arrogance.

 

How about ethics? Ethics have very little place in the animal kingdom and very little place in dating. As a society we are supposed to have evolved from acting like animals, yet at the base level we have not. I have high standards of ethics, the world doesn't share them. That's fine, because some women should still have some ethics. Perhaps women raised in a Christian background, even though they may be adhering to an outside ideal rather than any kind of self-realized enlightenment. Yet most of the time that's just a facade -- they say one thing and do another.

 

Well, at the base level we are animals. You're a genius you should know this already. And being a genius you are stunned by this why?

 

Am I cynical? You better believe it. Yet generalizations aside, I still have the same choice -- believe that happy relationships are still possible, or give up entirely.

 

Yes you should. Especially if you can't get over this arrogance and superiority complex. That may be your real problem because if you are like this in person no girl is going to want deal with that on any kind of level.

[Art_Critic]

Only an idiot would consider themselves of Genius IQ without actually taking the test..

 

If thinking you were Smart and of High IQ were the bar for being a Genius then about 99% of the world is of the Genius level.

 

I think the OP is full of shiot... IMGO

[Mrlonelyone]

Only an idiot would consider themselves of Genius IQ without actually taking the test..

 

If thinking you were Smart and of High IQ were the bar for being a Genius then about 99% of the world is of the Genius level.

 

I think the OP is full of shiot... IMGO

 

Citing anything other than a properly administered IQ test. Says nothing of IQ.

 

Achievement is more about ambition and luck.

[wiener181]

It sounds to me like your dilemma is something completely different.

 

You know perfect people do not exist, so stop looking for that woman.

 

I don't think you can claim to be looking for relationships or not, they just happen. Either you meet someone interesting and compatible with you or you don't. I agree there are not too many genuinely honest, fair, and good people, but they do exist.

 

You mentioned not being able to put yourself in vulnerable situations...that's what dating is. Trusting people, getting to know them, allowing them into your personal world and space. If you can't do that, no one will be willing to do the same. It is impossible to grow feelings and attachments to people without letting your guard down.

 

I wouldn't use the term sex, it's intimacy you seem to be looking for...what happens between two people that trust each other and have feelings for each other in private. A deeper connection between the two that no one else can ever understand. That is, when done within a healthy relationship.

 

I think you need to work on yourself before you look for a companion. If that includes weight loss, it should only be for your health, not to attract women. I think doing it for the later reason means you might be searching or waiting for a more superficial woman. I have a feeling you would not appreciate that.

 

What did you dislike about what your mother went through? Why is it so negative in your eyes? Is it your IQ or your unwillingness to get hurt and possibly be in her shoes some day? Everyone copes with pain differently, and you might not be dealt the same cards she was.

[ivalm]

If you lived in a world with only lower mammals, I doubt you would want to lower yourself down to that animal level in order to find "happiness" with one. It's not a great analogy but it's the best way I can describe it. I don't state that as my definitive situation, but I fear I may be facing something like it, which is why I asked the question. If there are some very left-brained geniuses who have managed to find success with women despite that, or somehow including that, that's what I want to hear about. Or if other left-brained geniuses want to state similar stories of failures or why they gave up on the whole mess, that would also be helpful. Newton is dead so I can't really ask his opinion.

 

I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm attempting to ask the question of those who are like me, because I think the disconnect is that I'm constantly getting advice from people who are really not like me at all. The majority of people tell me what to change myself to be, what I'm supposed to be, and while some changes would be positive, overall I do not like what I'm hearing. I can improve things about myself but at the end of the day I am never going to be happy trying to act like someone I'm not, or conform to standards which conflict with my personal standards of ethical behavior.

 

I see lists of things you're supposed to be. Confidence is primary on that list. Why does every guy have to be "confident" in order to have success? Just forget everything you learned about dating and actually think about that for a moment. These kinds of "requirements to fit the mold" -- I see them as people just giving up on any kind of self-betterment as human beings and giving in to their animal nature. Women always choosing their mate based on genetic drive rather than their own intellect. Aren't there women out there that are better than this?

 

How about ethics? Ethics have very little place in the animal kingdom and very little place in dating. As a society we are supposed to have evolved from acting like animals, yet at the base level we have not. I have high standards of ethics, the world doesn't share them. That's fine, because some women should still have some ethics. Perhaps women raised in a Christian background, even though they may be adhering to an outside ideal rather than any kind of self-realized enlightenment. Yet most of the time that's just a facade -- they say one thing and do another.

 

Am I cynical? You better believe it. Yet generalizations aside, I still have the same choice -- believe that happy relationships are still possible, or give up entirely.

 

As I said, I don't expect most people to believe what I'm saying or really have a clue about the nature of my situation. You live in your world with the rest of humanity and do the things that work for you, I'm not here to condemn you for it. You probably have a lot more success and happiness living in this world than I do. Just be happy with that and move on without trolling my thread. I'm just trying to see if anyone can relate.

 

Wow, it seems you are either a troll or someone with some very serious issues. I doubt there are any smart women who would go for you if you act towards them in the same way you write your posts here. For what it's worth, I am pretty smart, graduated valedictorian from one of the best schools in the US, now I am a grad student in one of the top labs in my field. I also know a lot of VERY smart and VERY successful people; however, they all don't have your arrogant attitude and some of them have found happiness with women. Indeed, pushing IQ, a rather artificial test (at which, incidentally, I excel), is silly in and of itself.

 

People do support ethics, indeed that is the principle reason why societies exist. The question is, however, how do YOU exhibit "higher ethics"? If it's in concrete actions then I'm sure many women will find it very attractive, if it's debating epistemological value existentialism vs teleology then that's moot. Most people do not seriously care if your purpose is a priori or a posterori to your existence. Why should they?

 

Why do women desire confidence? Because confidence is an indicator of success. It says "I believe in myself; when I do something I will succeed!" Certainly one can be confident and unsuccessful, but it's much less likely that you can be successful but NOT confident. Women, just as men, want to be with someone who is successful. And yes, success can come in many forms and has many gradations, yet it is not completely subjective, as most will agree when someone is very successful or very unsuccessful. Growth in confidence is very important factor in self-betterment, something you say you value.

 

Your debate of animal vs "higher" desires/views sounds faux-Kantian. People are fundamentally irrational, indeed this is what makes them so wonderfully creative; they don't operate using some weired deontological decision tree. This is also why "strong AI" type algorithms are notoriously difficult to create. "Animalistic instincts" are perhaps the most fundamental forces of human nature, as they are the base of what we call "emotions" and allow us to rapidly do very difficult social analysis, unless you have Asperger's type disorder, you should be able to relate.

 

Desire for conformity, against which you rebel (as did many people before you), is also fundamental for existence of societies, as it allows for a scaffold on which higher social relations can grow. In certain places and times push for conformity is very strong and can be destructive, however, I think in the US (and presumably Europe), one can be quite deviant from the norm yet still find one's place in society. I think you are simply using your "rebellion" as an excuse.

 

You claim that you try to self-improve, how do you exhibit this? What are objective indicators of your growth? What, to an outsider, would indicate that you are worth their time? These are all fundamental questions which, I think, may help you realize why you've had so little success thus far.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Well, I, for one, can totally relate. I am so beautiful that the prospect of spending time with average, or even good looking people is as inspiring as that of eating dog poop fresh from the back yard. Honestly.

 

How can I find anyone whose looks are even a weak approximation of my own spectacular appearance? It's torture. Imagine if you were forced to select from among lower vertebrates for a mate. Barfo! Like me, I'm sure you would ultimately choose to remain alone. After all, I have by this time honed the skill of masturbation with a mirror in my hand to a high art. And simply looking into a mirror silently affords me profoundly more pleasure than having to view a person of lesser physical allure during a conversation.

 

So, OP, I really can feel your pain. Perhaps, as there are no humans as intelligent as you are, you might seek out others with absolute superlative qualities, such a woman, like myself, who is more beautiful than any other, or maybe the woman with the very most money in the world, or the highest body weight. Just being so very special might be enough in common to create a strong bond between you, and save you from having to consort with the ordinary.

[ivalm]

Well, I, for one, can totally relate. I am so beautiful that the prospect of spending time with average, or even good looking people is as inspiring as that of eating dog poop fresh from the back yard. Honestly.

 

How can I find anyone whose looks are even a weak approximation of my own spectacular appearance? It's torture. Imagine if you were forced to select from among lower vertebrates for a mate. Barfo! Like me, I'm sure you would ultimately choose to remain alone. After all, I have by this time honed the skill of masturbation with a mirror in my hand to a high art. And simply looking into a mirror silently affords me profoundly more pleasure than having to view a person of lesser physical allure during a conversation.

 

So, OP, I really can feel your pain. Perhaps, as there are no humans as intelligent as you are, you might seek out others with absolute superlative qualities, such a woman, like myself, who is more beautiful than any other, or maybe the woman with the very most money in the world, or the highest body weight. Just being so very special might be enough in common to create a strong bond between you, and save you from having to consort with the ordinary.

 

I you Mme Chaucer.

 

Just read all the posts in this thread, yours is most epic.

[andrew-bkk]

Wow, it seems you are either a troll or someone with some very serious issues.

 

Your post is extremely clever and extremely well written.

 

The OP is quite obviously a troll. He has been created by the moderators of this forum in order to generate a bit a interest.

 

That said, it may well be the case that such "holier and more intellectual than thou" individuals do actually exist.

 

But I really think it's silly to waste too much time on them.

 

What amuses me most of all is the number of foolish little people who have popped up on this thread claiming that they too are a genius.

[lizwashere]

But.. he's an accomplished Math & Physics Tutor with a BSEE who would have gotten something as basic as a PhD with ease, had he only cared enough....

 

What’s really sad is that I went to graduate school with individuals with a similar attitude and outlook on life. They expected to be awarded a Ph.D. without doing any of the requisite work. What people like our resident “genius” fails to realize is that completing graduate work in a demanding field requires much more than a high IQ or intelligence it requires self-discipline, common sense, accountability and the ability to bear the brunt of often brutal criticism from one’s dissertation director and faculty members who you will later rely on for recommendations and support.

 

Personally, as a successful, intelligent woman with a very good academic position I wouldn’t touch Mr. Genius with a ten foot poll and am not the least bit impressed with the score of his online IQ test.

[ivalm]

Your post is extremely clever and extremely well written.

 

The OP is quite obviously a troll. He has been created by the moderators of this forum in order to generate a bit a interest.

 

That said, it may well be the case that such "holier and more intellectual than thou" individuals do actually exist.

 

But I really think it's silly to waste too much time on them.

 

What amuses me most of all is the number of foolish little people who have popped up on this thread claiming that they too are a genius.

 

 

Yeah, when I saw the thread I thought it was 3 pages long so I decided to post, not realizing it was in fact much longer! Oh well. I think anyone claiming to be "genius" needs to be taken with skepticism. The smartest people I've had the privilege to meet/see, including several Noble Laureates, did not call themselves "genius" and were actually quite humble.

[Mme. Chaucer]

I you Mme Chaucer.

 

Just read all the posts in this thread, yours is most epic.

 

I'd thank you for the nice compliment ... but I'm sorry, I'm far too gorgeous for that!

[Mrlonelyone]

I think allot of you nned to go easy on the OP.

 

By the way he is not the resident genius I am. I have a very high formally tested IQ and I am working on my MS thesis in Theoretical physics and cosmology.

 

Is it ok for me to crow a little?

[andrew-bkk]

I am so beautiful that the prospect of spending time with average, or even good looking people is as inspiring as that of eating dog poop fresh from the back yard. Honestly.

 

Hello Madame Chaucer. I look like James Bond. Generally I wouldn't consider going with a woman who is merely "beautiful". I am usually of the opinion that such creatures are lower mammals.

 

But in your case I feel prepared to make a rare exception.

 

So, what do you think? My extraordinary good looks and your refined beauty? Do you think it will work?

 

If so, send me a PM. Perhaps we could meet tomorrow night at the Casino Royale.