Any geniuses around?

[ivalm]

I think allot of you nned to go easy on the OP.

 

By the way he is not the resident genius I am. I have a very high formally tested IQ and I am working on my MS thesis in Theoretical physics and cosmology.

 

Is it ok for me to crow a little?

 

No. I am in a middle of getting a PhD in Physics. I also know/knew some of the most distinguished physicists and none of them ever "crow". In fact, the smarter a person is, the more straightforward and unassuming they behave. People around them realize that they are very smart because of their wisdom and actions, not because they insinuate they are smart. The few physics professors, and grad students, that I know that do try to impress their "geniousness" on others are actually not very good...

[ivalm]

Hello Madame Chaucer. I look like James Bond. Generally I wouldn't consider going with a woman who is merely "beautiful". I am usually of the opinion that such creatures are lower mammals.

 

But in your case I feel prepared to make a rare exception.

 

So, what do you think? My extraordinary good looks and your refined beauty? Do you think it will work?

 

If so, send me a PM. Perhaps we could meet tomorrow night at the Casino Royale.

 

Wait, which James Bond do you look like? There are many!

[Mrlonelyone]

Says the person who. Just crowed about being in a PHD program you horrible elitist snob you.

Edited March 22, 2011 by Mrlonelyone

[Mrlonelyone]

What no snappy comebacks?

[ivalm]

Says the person who. Just crowed about being in a PHD program you horrible elitist snob you?

 

Indeed, hypocrisy is my name! But seriously, I don't call myself genius, but rather I mentioned my degree program/affiliation to justify that I am someone who has "experience" with other smart people and how they behave.

 

Edit: I don't live on loveshack.org, give me time

[Mrlonelyone]

Indeed, hypocrisy is my name! But seriously, I don't call myself genius, but rather I mentioned my degree program/affiliation to justify that I am someone who has "experience" with other smart people and how they behave.

 

Edit: I don't live on loveshack.org, give me time

Excuses excuses... Upgrade to a smart phone and you can be on the net anywhere. I don't live on loveshack either.

 

You don't call your self a genius you just slyly brag about your achievemnent in a way that make you look like a populist.

 

(Baby Stewie voice) I say that's the best pandering since Heidi Fleiss(/ baby stewie)

 

I'm going to eat some Cool WHhip and plot my takeover of the world! Bwahahahaha

[ivalm]

Excuses excuses... Upgrade to a smart phone and you can be on the net anywhere. I don't live on loveshack either.

 

You don't call your self a genius you just slyly brag about your achievemnent in a way that make you look like a populist.

 

(Baby Stewie voice) I say that's the best pandering since Heidi Fleiss(/ baby stewie)

 

I'm going to eat some Cool WHhip and plot my takeover of the world! Bwahahahaha

 

But smart phone plans are so expensive!!!! I'll stick with my regular stupid phone

[andrew-bkk]

Wait, which James Bond do you look like? There are many!

 

I wrote in an earlier post that I have a "male model" figure. All true. And people have said that I do look a bit like the new James Bond, Daniel Craig.

 

I wrote too that I took the entrance exam for Oxford University. Ultimately, though, I failed.

 

So perhaps I'm not as clever as you are, but I have no qualms about that.

 

Much more importantly, I am now besotted with Madame Chaucer.

 

Seriously bro -- she's one hot little number.

[ivalm]

Much more importantly, I am now besotted with Madame Chaucer.

 

Seriously bro -- she's one hot little number.

 

I know, I'm actually quite envious of you

 

Oh dear Madame, why could you not choose me! Your one true love!

[elaina]

I'll get to the point. I'm 35, have never been on a date, and have a genius IQ. For most of that time I was pretty attractive (not so much now but working on it, have a gym membership etc) and I know several girls did like me (I either didn't like them, or I didn't know they liked me until way later.) I've tried asking a few girls out in my life but it never went anywhere. I don't believe in cheap sex and only pursued the few girls I felt a real connection with.

 

I enjoy my own company most of the time, occasionally I get lonely but I fear I wouldn't want to deal with the headache brought on by most women. The world says that the problem is that I don't conform to the standard list of requirements on dating and relationships, as defined by the human female nature. I would say that the problem is that they don't conform to my own higher standards of behavior and ethics. That's a bit tongue-in-cheek but both sides definitely have some truth to them.

 

Anyway, I have been wondering if I'm just too cerebral or detached from my emotions etc. to bother with dating. And I'm wondering if there are any other persons of high-IQ out there that feel similarly. Issac Newton reportedly said his greatest achievement was dying a virgin. (I guess at some point of advanced age you can make a statement like that with reasonable assuredness that it will remain true after you are dead.) I think it would be sad to die a virgin, but I think it would be sadder to waste my virginity on a meaningless encounter or someone I didn't care about.

 

Experienced daters of lower IQ need not respond. I've read your advice many times and, maybe it works for you but it doesn't work for me.

 

A high IQ is only productive if the person with the high IQ does something productive, right? So, what productive thing have you done lately? Get busy!

 

As for love, sometimes love hits you when you least expect it! So, if you use your high IQ and genius brains to go out and help people, maybe you will stumble upon the love of your life? You never know...

[2sure]

Most people do get married once or twice, or have a long term relationship during their lifetime. Most people, even late bloomers, and the spiritually dedicated do not die virgins.

 

That being said - most people includes those with less than average intelligence and those of genius levels.

 

So, odds are good that it is not your intelligence that is hindering you from attracting women or being attracted to them.

 

If you stop focusing on that, maybe you will be able to find the real reason and correct it ( I know you said you were starting to go the gym and that will help). As far as your expectations...aim as high as you can while keeping in mind that the people you are aiming for are doing the same.

[threebyfate]

There are many types of individuals who value different things. Some use value judgments as their sole criteria. Others use critical thinking to reach conclusions. Most use a combination since to completely reject one or the other is to reject humanity.

 

Also, people should bear in mind that no matter how logical the process, it's still a form of subjective thinking since every concept needs a starting point. So the question is, what are you sourcing from to begin your logical process?

[Kamille]

Welcome to the Academy Awards for LS Geniuses.

 

42 geniuses have accepted ChessPiece's challenge: lament or question the plight of geniuses everywhere who must condescend to date lower mammals in order to fulfill their sexual needs. (Please note that geniuses, according to CP, do not have emotional needs).

 

Now, on to the ceremony.

 

The People's choice award goes to

*drumroll*

 

TBF, for aptly deconstructing the irrationality of the OP's argument.

 

The award for most empathetic poster goes to:

*drumroll*

Mme Chaucer for understanding the similarities between Chess Piece's genius status and her own plight as an amazingly beautiful woman.

 

 

Honorable genius mention goes to

*drumroll*

welikeincrowds

 

for winning the "Where's SACWA?" tournament.

 

Hi SACWA! :bunny:

 

I would like to thank the OP for holding LS members to such a higher standard, and encouraging us to strive for excellence in both our logic and our humor.

[ChessPieceFace]

Wow, 9 pages. If I WAS trolling, I'd be succeeding very well, so shouldn't you feel foolish? Actually I'm just another person who is hurting and looking for advice. The majority of you, who have responded to that with hate and venom, taking delight in someone else's problems -- all you've done is demonstrate your own lack of character.

 

I think you need to realize that there is no only one right, the rest is not wrong, all people are different, for someone this is right, for another person right is something else.

 

"No absolutes." How about murder, that's ok for some people also? No, you'd probably agree that there is some basic level of human decency required for a functioning society. Look around at our society -- it isn't functioning very well. My prescription is raising that level of human decency and ethics above what it is now. I wouldn't want everyone to be identical, just to set a higher standard of behavior for the benefit of all. A pipe dream, but at least a well-intended one.

 

That statement implies that experienced daters of lower IQ don't have the same issues of life as someone of higher IQ.

 

Yep, Mrlonelyone gets it. I've been on quite a few forums asking this question in various ways, with various levels of arrogance or lack thereof, and I've not gotten many responses from anyone who can relate. If you haven't personally dealt with someone's situation then you can't REALLY understand it, although some "normal" people in the thread did give some relevant pieces of advice. At least a couple people here could actually personally relate and I'm appreciative of that. That particular statement had no goal other than to try to address the people who might understand. 9 pages later, it's apparent that that goal was not achieved.

 

In my experience it's important to have a “mission” in life, something you are trying to accomplish that you think is useful or good. Something that you can get excited about when you get out of bed in the morning. ... If you perform well on your “mission”, people will respect that, men and women both. The more respect you get from all the men and women in your life, the more you will be naturally attractive to women.

 

I understand what you're saying, and agree it would be a positive thing. My potential far exceeds my ambition. I could list a bunch of reasons for it but it won't change the fact that I still have to try, regardless of how hard it might be for me to achieve. And there ARE a few jobs I could imagine being happy in, but they never seem to match the actual job postings...

 

It took me a long time to really get through my head that women and dating are the way they are. No amount of intelligence on my part is ever going to change that. Think of it this way. Most of the time when you are talking to a person about dating, you are really only “talking” to their cerebral cortex for want of a better word. You can shoot the breeze all day with that. But, at the end of the day that's not the part of the brain that makes the decision. You are not talking to the part of the brain that makes the decision, that part is not amenable to discussion. It wants what it wants. What that is only changes over evolutionary time scales. I would suggest you need to get that through your head thoroughly and consider the implications.

 

Right, and I guess my core question (to the intended audience) was twofold:

 

- Have you met any women who aren't like this, and to what extent, i.e. what's the best-case scenario I can hope for

- How have you personally dealt with "lowering yourself" to conform to this base standard of behavior just to get what you want

 

In your case you seem to be saying "all women are like this" and that you have chosen to participate in this base behavior to get what you want, and apparently that you find it to have been worth it.

 

I've also had a lot of problems in my life with taking things too literally. Women tell me things like “I don't want to date a man for reason X”, and I tended to believe that that is the literal truth. What I've come to understand is that women most often do not use the literal truth. They don't use the same words I would use to describe a situation. If a woman doesn't want to date a man, she will give a reason, but it is rarely the real reason. It is not useful spending a lot of time trying to sift through a woman's reasons and motivations or understand the particular words she chooses to use. Usually either a woman will like you in which case her behaviors towards you and words towards you will be positive, or she won't like you in which case the opposite happens. It's easy to tell those two apart, and that's all you need to know. To sum that up, don't waste a lot of time getting hung up on logical inconsistencies.

 

Yep, I've learned this one, though it's hard to continually remind myself of it and accept it. Being the kind of person whose nature is to fix problems, having to face constant glaring problems which cannot be fixed (other than changing the human genome) leads to a lot of frustration. I'm pretty sure that the average person would still like to change things about the world. Maybe it's a matter of degree.

 

And all of that's well and good. It's the route Einstein went, and he did okay for himself.

 

Well, he certainly achieved a lot (though some of that knowledge was of course used by the lesser humans to kill lots of other humans) but was he happy? I don't know. But I would definitely like to see the responses by people in this thread to HIS problems. Something like "But.. he's an accomplished patent clerk who failed his classes in school, who would have done better with ease, had he only cared enough..."

Edited March 22, 2011 by ChessPieceFace

[Eve]

OP, have you been tested for Asperges? Serious question here. Within your writing you have reminded me of a few people who I have known who have been diagnosed you see.

 

Sorry if this has been asked or discussed already but I didn't read the responses given.

 

Take care,

Eve x

[Titania22]

@ChessPieceFace I understand. I know what it is to live by a personal ethic, and to see most people around not only without a personal ethic, but without even the concept of what that is.

 

I have had the experience of living compelled by my own base urges, and at other times guided by my intellect and ethic.

 

I feel there is something to be said for choosing a chaste path, but there is also no harm in putting that to the side for a little while and letting your animal side take the reins. By doing this you will gain a deeper understanding of that side, and in understanding will be able to understand the life choices of the masses.

 

There is no reason that having unleashed this side of you, it needs to stay unleashed. But then you will have the true choice if and when you choose to consort with those you consider lesser beings, to fully experience all that is on offer.

[carhill]

Wow, 9 pages

 

OP, to consolidate more posts per page, go to your profile options page and scroll down to 'thread display options' and set the 'number of posts to show per page' to '40 posts per page' from the drop down menu. I find it makes long threads easier to read.

 

I'm really not qualified to comment on the content here, so back to lurking

[Happy Finally]

I have followed this thread mainly because I find it amusing. Secondly I never knew so many self proclaimed geniuses came here on a daily basis to discuss their problems. I am starting to think that LS is a sub chapter of MENSA.

 

Well since this post in particular seems to be about make believe and fantasy I am really Don Giovanni (that's Don Juan to the non genius types). Once a woman lays her eyes upon me she is done in and I can have my way. Women if you doubt..just ask for my picture...but beware....lmfao!!!!!!!

 

Any doubters...prove me wrong. It's as about as outlandish as saying I'm a genius on an internet relationship forum. And my internet genius test says I'm about a 240, suckas!!!

[P&R]

People use just about anything as a crutch now-a-days.

[Kamille]

 

Well, he certainly achieved a lot (though some of that knowledge was of course used by the lesser humans to kill lots of other humans) but was he happy?

 

Yes, while humans have used some of Einstein's formulas for warlike purposes, Hitler used the notion of "lesser humans" to devastating effects. Without prejudice, there is no war. So which came first, the notion that some humans lives are worth more than others or the use of discoveries to kill humans?

 

The question "are there ethical intelligent women in the world?" is misleading. It shouldn't be: do they exist (it's been proven that they do), the question should be: "How do I go about meeting an ethical intelligent woman".

 

You remind me of my ex. He was an idealist who was consistently disappointed in the world, but who managed to never question his own sense of self.

[jane100]

I have followed this thread mainly because I find it amusing. Secondly I never knew so many self proclaimed geniuses came here on a daily basis to discuss their problems. I am starting to think that LS is a sub chapter of MENSA.

 

 

yeah, lots of beautiful, intelligent people on here . (self-proclaimed but heh)

 

whats not to like .

 

if only we could get together .

 

Carhill, can it be arranged? A Channel 4 documentary perhaps (lol for the UK component).

[Mrlonelyone]

chess piece

 

You asked what kind of women have I met who did not have a problem with our ways of thinking.

 

Elementary, women who are of nearly equal intelligence. They have been artist and performers and other scientist, and geeks. There are some very pretty geeky girls.

 

One more thing. The reasons that your comment on "lower mammals" etc caused a problem was because it's something which taken out of it's context can be taken the wrong way. They think you were talking about them. I know you weren't. They took it personally.

 

People tend to take anything related to inteligence very personally. As much as we may suck at measuring it, as poor of a measure as an IQ score is for it, for all the hue and cry about how it does not matter.... it sure does piss people off to imply even unintentionally that they have less of it. That is because inteligence is the one thing that defines us as humans it is the thing we have that other animals did not have.

 

We had the intelligence to work in groups in ways that mere pack animals and herd animals did not. They had social intelligence...we had much much more.

 

We had the intelligence to bash rocks together and notice that they made blades.

 

We had the intelligence to tame fire and sharpen spears and tip them with our stone points.

 

We had the intelligence to observe the patterns of nature and figure out how things worked and harness them to our advantage.

 

We had the intelligence to create works of art and music and inventions of all kinds practical and amusing.

 

Eventually we had the intelligence to create all of the tech that makes it possible for me to type this, and for people all over the world to read it.

 

Odds are the first ancestors and people to do these things were the smarter ones among their group.

 

Chesspiece....that knowledge is why you were attacked, it's also why your intelligence can get in the way of your finding a compatible mate.

 

So find a mate who has intelligence like yours. Reproduce copiously... Otherwise we could end up in 500 years... with a world like this... the movie idocracy

 

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/f8drn8/first-10-minutes-of-idiocracy-clip-1

 

Your Trevor and you need a woman like Carol... don't worry about the Clevon's and Trish's of the world.

 

We'll end up putting Brawndo (Gatorade) on the crops instead of water... "because it has electrolytes".

 

We'll all be watching "ow my balls".... and calling anyone who speaks intelligently a "fag".

 

Welcome to costco everyone.

:lmao:

[Happy Finally]

yeah, lots of beautiful, intelligent people on here . (self-proclaimed but heh)

 

whats not to like .

 

if only we could get together .

 

Carhill, can it be arranged? A Channel 4 documentary perhaps (lol for the UK component) .

 

I agree lets get together. Smart hot sexy people doing a documentary. Hot sexy bodies interlocked, discussing relativity while their minds are blown.

 

And since it's a documentary, it's not really porn!!!!:lmao:

[Mrlonelyone]

"Self Proclaimed" eh.

 

Pretty much everything on the internet is self proclaimed. What kind of proof would make someone not self proclaimed as being anything or anyone? Just for the sake of argument?

[Happy Finally]

"Self Proclaimed" eh.

 

Pretty much everything on the internet is self proclaimed. What kind of proof would make someone not self proclaimed as being anything or anyone? Just for the sake of argument?

 

There is no argument. You just prove my point. Anyone can come on here and tout "I'm a genius because I am in a PHD course. I am smarter than most humans and you are below me!!!"

 

In reality this person (and you could very well be one of them...not saying you are though) could easily be a slob, lacking anything but the ability to use big words on an internet forum.

 

Which is what I truly believe the OP to be...a fraud. Posting to amuse himself.