Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sure. You read philosophy and pay particular attention to the logic module, then when you find a statement you find to be fallacious you present your counter-argument to the other party. If they can't find a flaw in your counter-argument it is therefore safe to assume their argument to begin with was the arrant nonsense you took it to be. Makes perfect sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Great! Glad to hear. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yes, thanks, given that you offended my mother, sisters, friends, colleagues, I take satisfaction in pointing out how the inherent nastiness in your comments can be applied to your nearest and dearest and see you not liking it either. Did it ever occur to you that I didn't literally mean every single woman on the planet? No, I guess I didn't. Strange how your mother was the first thing to come to your mind when you read what I said. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Lol, 'I guess it didn't' was what I meant. It has everything to do with what you said. No it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Edirol Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It seems really common on these forums and through friends/family that a lot of guys are dumped because the woman just "doesn't feel the same anymore" or "just doesn't feel the spark" i don't really understand it. How can they suddenly lose feelings, i know they probably think about doing the dumping prior to actually doing it and thats why they move on so fast, but why would you agree to date someone who you know is really into you, only to shut them down and break them within a short period of time? if you read around on the board, women and men both say this. They use this excuse instead of explaining the collection of different reasons they eventually were turned off. These reasons would turn anyone off over time. Sometimes it turns into GIGS. Besides the common reasons cheating, clingyness, jealousy or SPAX Syndrome (Still Pining After Ex) here are the more common ones off the top of my head: For women, the ex bf: is possessive not attentive enough bad in bed selfish cheap non committal not romantic predictable depressed changed womans rebound heal expired Not moving fast enough too nice lost ambition abuse non communicative not ready for a family like right now not attractive enough For men, the ex g/f: bad in bed weight gain low/no sex drive after childbirth mans rebound heal expired not attractive enough Oh boy, i dont have enough reasons for men, anyone wanna add to this? Link to post Share on other sites
confused1989 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Is it really fair to say that it's all the boyfriends fault when women say they don't feel the same anymore? Someone in this thread said it's the mans fault for not keeping the sparks flying. I don't know I feel like I did all I could for my ex and she still had a change of feelings well really she just gave up on me. Actually she was confined to her bed for over a month with a really bad illness and I took care of her and gave her tons of emotional support only for her to get better, start up a profile on a dating site, lie about it to me, and then say her feelings are changed and we break up. Edited March 25, 2011 by confused1989 Link to post Share on other sites
JasonRules Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think this thread will not accomplish anything. It's too vague and general. It would be like a woman posting "Why are men such dogs?" "Why do men cheat on good women with skanks?" Each situation is unique and different. Ultimately, it doesn't matter why a man/woman broke up with someone. The result is the same. For whatever reason, they decided to not want anything to do with you anymore. I can sit here all day and pick my brain trying to analyse why my ex girlfriend decided to end it with me. I never disrespected her, treated her badly, or cheated on her. I was always a gentleman and a man in every sense of the word. Only she knows the real reasons, but even if I knew the "why" as well it would not change anything. We have to understand that we cannot worry about things which we have no control over. We only have to learn to deal with them. When its sunny out wear sunblock. When it rains, grab an umbrella. When it snows, wear a heavy coat. Learn to protect and take care of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Did it ever occur to you that I didn't literally mean every single woman on the planet? You made a sweeping, and obviously false statement that is clearly offensive to many people (including yourself). When this nonsense is shown for what it is, you then call me a troll. Then, when your name-calling tactics don't work, you resort to expecting me to respond to something you haven't said instead of what you actually said. Lies, distortions, bullying, gas-lamping, double standards all neatly wrapped up in one thread. Anything to avoid saying, "You're right, I was wrong and I apologise for the offence caused. I need to rethink this." That's your way of handling the world, and so be it. I can certainly see that such behaviour is very unattractive and would drive any potential lover away, be they male or female. Strange how your mother was the first thing to come to your mind when you read what I said. And the implication you're trying to make here is what, exactly? Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 No it doesn't. Yes it does. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You made a sweeping, and obviously false statement that is clearly offensive to many people (including yourself). When this nonsense is shown for what it is, you then call me a troll. Then, when your name-calling tactics don't work, you resort to expecting me to respond to something you haven't said instead of what you actually said. Lies, distortions, bullying, gas-lamping, double standards all neatly wrapped up in one thread. Anything to avoid saying, "You're right, I was wrong and I apologise for the offence caused. I need to rethink this." That's your way of handling the world, and so be it. I can certainly see that such behaviour is very unattractive and would drive any potential lover away, be they male or female. And the implication you're trying to make here is what, exactly? Sure, I'm the bully and the troll. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yes it does. Now you're just being childish. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Btw, I will admit it. I didn't actually mean what I said about women dumping men because they get bored of them and they can take their pick of any man. I was pissed off, bitter, and angry, so I said it to make myself feel better. But it wasn't ment as an actual attack on all women, in fact I didn't think what I said would've come across as that offensive. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sure, I'm the bully and the troll. I forgot to add sarcasm as another undesirable trait. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I forgot to add sarcasm as another undesirable trait. You've never been sarcastic in your whole life right? Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Btw, I will admit it. I didn't actually mean what I said about women dumping men because they get bored of them and they can take their pick of any man. I was pissed off, bitter, and angry, so I said it to make myself feel better. But it wasn't ment as an actual attack on all women, in fact I didn't think what I said would've come across as that offensive. There's that wasn't that hard, was it? Lashing out at the world with simple lies is not going to resolve the complicated truths. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ever since I made that first post, you've done nothing but insult my mother, troll, and bully me. So someone like you certainly has a cheek in pointing out undesirable traits in others. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You've never been sarcastic in your whole life right? I certainly have and I certainly will, and I'll certainly take it on the chin if someone dislikes me for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 There's that wasn't that hard, was it? Lashing out at the world with simple lies is not going to resolve the complicated truths. Nope, wasn't hard at all. Maybe you should try it yourself sometime *cough*. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I certainly have and I certainly will, and I'll certainly take it on the chin if someone dislikes me for it. So you have exactly the same 'undesirable' trait then. Kinda makes you look a bit silly to critisize others for it when you're no different yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ever since I made that first post, you've done nothing but insult my mother, troll, and bully me. I haven't insulted your mother - you insulted your mother. I haven't called you names - you called me names. If you don't like being called up for saying nasty things, don't say nasty things. So someone like you certainly has a cheek in pointing out undesirable traits in others. That's right. I am cheeky for responding to your nasty comments. So what you going to do about it? Link to post Share on other sites
swfc_77 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 i think that many young women (not all) have far too high expectations. alot of young women i meet want a lot of things over a short period of time, alot look at what you have and not at who you are, and soon get bored when reality kicks in. i dont know why this is, many of times i have been asked what i do, how much i earn while out in bars talking to younger girls/women. like said its not an attack on all women but thats what type of vibe i get from most young girls/women these days. i have a lot of time and respect for women who have their own dreams and career path planned out regardless of what their partner is/does. as to the original question, maybe they do get bored, maybe they want more excitment but as they say the grass isn't always greener. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Nope, wasn't hard at all. Maybe you should try it yourself sometime *cough*. What did I say that was wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 So you have exactly the same 'undesirable' trait then. Kinda makes you look a bit silly to critisize others for it when you're no different yourself. I don't self-pity when someone I use sarcasm against hits me back. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I haven't insulted your mother - you insulted your mother. I haven't called you names - you called me names. If you don't like being called up for saying nasty things, don't say nasty things. That's right. I am cheeky for responding to your nasty comments. So what you going to do about it? No, I didn't insult my mother. You are the one who has been nasty, I have responded in kind as I will always stand up to bullies like yourself. So if you don't like being called up for saying nasty things, then don't say nasty things. What can I do about your cheek other than point it out? Don't like it do you? Link to post Share on other sites
Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I don't self-pity when someone I use sarcasm against hits me back. Good for you. If you don't want to be hit, then don't hit in the first place. Are you going to cry now? Link to post Share on other sites
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