Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You know, a very weak looking face, thin nose, very weak looking chin and jaw, ect. Basically looking timid, and you look like you could get easily beat up by most other people. Link to post Share on other sites
Dlyrica Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 No offense, but I don't know how your face can look like it could get beaten up by people? What does that even mean? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 No offense, but I don't know how your face can look like it could get beaten up by people? What does that even mean? Lol, sigh, it's hard to explain. But most people would understand. Looking very unaggresive, passive, timid... Can you picture a face that looks like that? How about a typical 'hard man' kind of face, can you picture one of those? If you want I can put up some links to some pictures to show you what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites
rachel7475 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Like Crispin Glover? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 If your regular expression looks like you expect to be beaten and robbed and you intend to roll into a ball and let it happen - yes, that's a little off putting. Work on your expression. I know what I'm talking about because my normal expression looks sad and pissed when that's not what I am feeling at all. I don't really think it's my expression, it just seems to be the way my face looks. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 If your regular expression looks like you expect to be beaten and robbed and you intend to roll into a ball and let it happen - yes, that's a little off putting. Work on your expression. I know what I'm talking about because my normal expression looks sad and pissed when that's not what I am feeling at all. Yup, pretty much the same with me, I've been asked a few times 'am I okay?' or 'you look serious', when I'm feelng perfectly fine. This however seems to maybe be more down to expression. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Like Crispin Glover? He's not the best example. I'll try and rustle up some. Link to post Share on other sites
Dlyrica Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yes dig up some examples and then I will tell you how turned off I am But seriously, it all depends on the person with me and looks. A guy can have the most masculine face ever and if he's a cocky d-bag then I will not be attracted to him whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Here's one, http://geraldhome.dr-maul.com/images/GHome_08a.jpg Forget about the clothes, hair and glasses, just concentrate on his face. Link to post Share on other sites
depplover_1980 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Some women like that geekier look. There is a good section of women genuinely into mens minds and creativity etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Another, http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLDc-mSm1ZgBzTevCWrSi4NU_vjEBICxiKmssc77SdWKiYjflL4A&t=1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kelemort Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Unless you're actually getting women strolling up to you and saying, "Geez, I'd date you but your face looks weak," you've nothing to worry about. You're going to meet women who have preferences all over the map. Some women want a big, strong burly man fresh out of the military who can whoop some a-double. Some women are totally happy and eagerly seeking out short, scrawny men who have the "weak features" you're describing. Somebody's trash is somebody else's treasure, and that's true of all appearances. There are no universal 'goods' or 'bads' about appearance. We each have our own preferences. Some women (and men too) aggressively pursue heavyset people of the opposite sex. Some are after those who are rail-thin, and nobody can judge that for somebody else. Most of my boyfriends have not had 'strong' facial features - I assume you are putting more emphasis on a strong, square jaw in that description? Many of them have had very subtle angles to the face - something some might describe as 'effeminate.' They've had slight mouths, noses, eyes, cheekbones...and it never once bothered me. Some of them had features that may have been a little off-putting, but so what? No one is perfect, even physically, and it's the overall package (..not that kind) that really matters. Judging by your posts, I think you're really hung up on the way you look and you have deluded yourself into thinking your looks are responsible for girls shunning you. I'm not going to lie - looks do matter. But I also think people tend to shop in their own markets - i.e., really good-looking girls often end up with really good-looking guys. That doesn't mean you're doomed. Generally, relationships that are the happiest are those in which the woman is slightly better-looking than the guy (search for it and you'll find the studies). Men have the advantage - they can shop up, while women usually have to shop at their own level or shop down in terms of looks. Call it the economics of sex, if you'd like. At the end of the day - what else do you offer to the dating pool, Ross? Are you great with kids? Are you funny, honest, financially responsible, spontaneous, romantic? Do you cook some mean chicken marsala? Are you polite to peoples' family and friends, are you able to be flexible and to talk out problems? I don't care if you're the ugliest man in the world - traits like that are going to get you farther than anything. A good looking guy, or even an ugly guy for that matter, is doomed if that's all he can offer is what he looks like. At the end of the day, statues are for stares. Romantic partners are the folks with whom you grow. I think now is the time for you to really focus on other areas where you have something to offer. Join a cooking class. Get involved in martial arts or start exercising to improve your physique. Find one physical trait that about yourself that you think is great. Get involved in a volunteer organization (for me, that's Planned Parenthood and the Red Cross). You have more to offer than 'weak facial features.' I'm wishing you the best of luck - and this is coming from a very weight, 'ok at best' woman in her 20s. I've managed to get dates and have people interested in me even despite my weight. It's definitely a factor - and I'm sure it has lost me some dates (in fact, I know it) - but it turned out for the better. I have other things to offer. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelemort Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Some of these pictures remind me of my ex. And don't worry, I didn't dump him because of his 'weak facial features.' I think some of these guys are kind of cute. The last one looks like an older Harry Potter. Link to post Share on other sites
Dlyrica Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think the point most of us girls are making is: No weak facial features are not the end of the world. Honestly, the thing that gets me more than ANYTHING in the world is a person's sense of humor. I will fall in love with the fattest, weakest faced man if he can genuinely make me laugh. For other girls it is other things, not JUST a person's face. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelemort Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 A deadpan or cheesy sense of humor gets me hook, line and sinker. I'm a funny person - I like other people who are funny. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Okay cool. So the fact that I think I may have weak facial features shouldn't be a problem then. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelemort Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You're just insecure, Ross. Everybody has their insecurities. For me (like I mentioned in one of my previous posts), it has always been my weight. Although I think men get much more lenience and have a greater chance of getting with women all over the attractiveness spectrum when they're ugly/fat than women do, from my own experiences and those of friends. For women, the physical insecurities tend to focus around being slimmer/shorter/prettier. For men, I know that height and physical size (usually in the form of hot and sexy muscle, of course) play a bigger role. You seem like a sweet guy. And Harry Potter is chillin' with a new chick in like every movie. Your odds are pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
Dlyrica Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Also, women can smell insecurities like that a mile away! Be confident in who you are and don't worry about what a stupid girl thinks unless she's a girl worth worrying about! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Unless you're actually getting women strolling up to you and saying, "Geez, I'd date you but your face looks weak," you've nothing to worry about. You're going to meet women who have preferences all over the map. Some women want a big, strong burly man fresh out of the military who can whoop some a-double. Some women are totally happy and eagerly seeking out short, scrawny men who have the "weak features" you're describing. Somebody's trash is somebody else's treasure, and that's true of all appearances. There are no universal 'goods' or 'bads' about appearance. We each have our own preferences. Some women (and men too) aggressively pursue heavyset people of the opposite sex. Some are after those who are rail-thin, and nobody can judge that for somebody else. Most of my boyfriends have not had 'strong' facial features - I assume you are putting more emphasis on a strong, square jaw in that description? Many of them have had very subtle angles to the face - something some might describe as 'effeminate.' They've had slight mouths, noses, eyes, cheekbones...and it never once bothered me. Some of them had features that may have been a little off-putting, but so what? No one is perfect, even physically, and it's the overall package (..not that kind) that really matters. Judging by your posts, I think you're really hung up on the way you look and you have deluded yourself into thinking your looks are responsible for girls shunning you. I'm not going to lie - looks do matter. But I also think people tend to shop in their own markets - i.e., really good-looking girls often end up with really good-looking guys. That doesn't mean you're doomed. Generally, relationships that are the happiest are those in which the woman is slightly better-looking than the guy (search for it and you'll find the studies). Men have the advantage - they can shop up, while women usually have to shop at their own level or shop down in terms of looks. Call it the economics of sex, if you'd like. At the end of the day - what else do you offer to the dating pool, Ross? Are you great with kids? Are you funny, honest, financially responsible, spontaneous, romantic? Do you cook some mean chicken marsala? Are you polite to peoples' family and friends, are you able to be flexible and to talk out problems? I don't care if you're the ugliest man in the world - traits like that are going to get you farther than anything. A good looking guy, or even an ugly guy for that matter, is doomed if that's all he can offer is what he looks like. At the end of the day, statues are for stares. Romantic partners are the folks with whom you grow. I think now is the time for you to really focus on other areas where you have something to offer. Join a cooking class. Get involved in martial arts or start exercising to improve your physique. Find one physical trait that about yourself that you think is great. Get involved in a volunteer organization (for me, that's Planned Parenthood and the Red Cross). You have more to offer than 'weak facial features.' I'm wishing you the best of luck - and this is coming from a very weight, 'ok at best' woman in her 20s. I've managed to get dates and have people interested in me even despite my weight. It's definitely a factor - and I'm sure it has lost me some dates (in fact, I know it) - but it turned out for the better. I have other things to offer. Well, I think it's probably something else that makes girls shun me, like maybe not producing the right pheremones or something. As for what I have to offer, I don't know. I'm quite good with Rubiks cubes, video games, not sure if I'm romantic because I've never been in a situation to be romantic. I have a sense of humour, but it's not a typical sense of humor. I guess the best thing I can say is, maybe my personality is a good thing I have to offer a woman, but no women have really been willing to get to know me, except for about two in the whole of my life. They didn't become sexually attracted to me though, as far as I'm aware. Link to post Share on other sites
fishtaco Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If you look timid it's more of a body language and how you carry yourself. Not saying looks don't contribute to that, but first it's not anything you can change, second I believe it contributes less than body language. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Cairo Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Unless you're actually getting women strolling up to you and saying, "Geez, I'd date you but your face looks weak," you've nothing to worry about. You're going to meet women who have preferences all over the map. Some women want a big, strong burly man fresh out of the military who can whoop some a-double. Some women are totally happy and eagerly seeking out short, scrawny men who have the "weak features" you're describing. Somebody's trash is somebody else's treasure, and that's true of all appearances. There are no universal 'goods' or 'bads' about appearance. We each have our own preferences. Some women (and men too) aggressively pursue heavyset people of the opposite sex. Some are after those who are rail-thin, and nobody can judge that for somebody else. Most of my boyfriends have not had 'strong' facial features - I assume you are putting more emphasis on a strong, square jaw in that description? Many of them have had very subtle angles to the face - something some might describe as 'effeminate.' They've had slight mouths, noses, eyes, cheekbones...and it never once bothered me. Some of them had features that may have been a little off-putting, but so what? No one is perfect, even physically, and it's the overall package (..not that kind) that really matters. Judging by your posts, I think you're really hung up on the way you look and you have deluded yourself into thinking your looks are responsible for girls shunning you. I'm not going to lie - looks do matter. But I also think people tend to shop in their own markets - i.e., really good-looking girls often end up with really good-looking guys. That doesn't mean you're doomed. Generally, relationships that are the happiest are those in which the woman is slightly better-looking than the guy (search for it and you'll find the studies). Men have the advantage - they can shop up, while women usually have to shop at their own level or shop down in terms of looks. Call it the economics of sex, if you'd like. At the end of the day - what else do you offer to the dating pool, Ross? Are you great with kids? Are you funny, honest, financially responsible, spontaneous, romantic? Do you cook some mean chicken marsala? Are you polite to peoples' family and friends, are you able to be flexible and to talk out problems? I don't care if you're the ugliest man in the world - traits like that are going to get you farther than anything. A good looking guy, or even an ugly guy for that matter, is doomed if that's all he can offer is what he looks like. At the end of the day, statues are for stares. Romantic partners are the folks with whom you grow. I think now is the time for you to really focus on other areas where you have something to offer. Join a cooking class. Get involved in martial arts or start exercising to improve your physique. Find one physical trait that about yourself that you think is great. Get involved in a volunteer organization (for me, that's Planned Parenthood and the Red Cross). You have more to offer than 'weak facial features.' I'm wishing you the best of luck - and this is coming from a very weight, 'ok at best' woman in her 20s. I've managed to get dates and have people interested in me even despite my weight. It's definitely a factor - and I'm sure it has lost me some dates (in fact, I know it) - but it turned out for the better. I have other things to offer. Wait a minute. From what I've read so far, Ross never had a girlfriend in his life and you are already trying for him to bank out on such characteristics as 'is he good with kids', financially responsible 'and such and such? Sweet Jesus. This man's first sexual experience shouldn't have to end in marriage and kids. Let the guy have some fun, then he can decide if he wants to hang himself . OP, if you've never had sex with a woman you don't really know if you like sex enough to deal with a relationship. Save up some money, fly down to Asia or Europe and get the sex that you want. Then make your own decision. Edited March 25, 2011 by Mr.Cairo Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ross PK Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Wait a minute. From what I've read so far, Ross never had a girlfriend in his life and you are already trying for him to bank out on such characteristics as 'is he good with kids', financially responsible 'and such and such? Sweet Jesus. This man's first sexual experience shouldn't have to end in marriage and kids. Let the guy have some fun, then he can decide if he wants to hang himself . OP, if you've never had sex with a woman you don't really know if you like sex enough to deal with a relationship. Save up some money, fly down to Asia or Europe and get the sex that you want. Then make your own decision. A relationship sounds appealing to me, even though I don't know what sex is like. But sure, I'd rather play the field first. Catch up on all that I have missed out on in my 35 years of life. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Cairo Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) A relationship sounds appealing to me, even though I don't know what sex is like. But sure, I'd rather play the field first. Catch up on all that I have missed out on in my 35 years of life. Trust me. Wanting something, in many cases, is better than actually having it. Relationships are not as good as people think they are. The castle might look inviting from the outside but you have to pay quite a bit to warm those cold walls. Buddy, you have so much to experience and to experience all of that you CAN have, you must first let go of this 'do women enjoy men with weak features etc' mentality. First you have sex then when the mysticism of it all is gone, you can have the clarity that comes from tasting something to know if you want to have it again. Also don't make a big deal out of the first time. People have the tendency to put too much stock on it. Just get it out of your system. Edited March 25, 2011 by Mr.Cairo Link to post Share on other sites
Stung Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Okay cool. So the fact that I think I may have weak facial features shouldn't be a problem then. The pics you posted here didn't strike me as necessarily men with objectively weak features, as much as men with weak expressions. The same skinny, submissive-seeming actors with different styling, body language and attitudes could play wiry, mean-as-a-snake gangsters. Think about somebody like Steve Buscemi, who has played a broad spectrum of losers, doofuses, mob guys, and homicidal maniacs (among other things), all because his behaviors are so versatile. He certainly doesn't look like your stereotypical 'hard man' with a lantern jaw, but he's believable in a lot of different roles. I think I remember seeing a picture of you once, Ross, and if I am correct I didn't look at your picture and think you looked weak or that your features were deficient. I remember thinking you looked better than I had expected, due to your frequently putting your own looks down. But maybe I have you mixed up with someone else. Link to post Share on other sites
cerridwen Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Ross, I remember the picture you posted of yourself when you were asking for people's opinion of your glasses. IMO, there is nothing wrong with your bone structure. It didn't strike me as weak. I say get a hipper hairstyle, maybe some contacts (because you have nice eyes and the glasses hide those a bit. Those things will help that Kick-His-Butt-Around-The-School yard look you're worried about. Link to post Share on other sites
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