Jane Deaux Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hmmm. There are days that I have epiphanies. I have considered starting a thread of discussion on some of these but never have. I guess I am glad I haven't considering how it can be construed. Who knows, maybe one day I will start a thread about something I thought about that day. I don't know though after watching this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
jthorne Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Honestly OW, I would expect the same response had I started a thread on empathy. In order to preach something one must be known for it, in their life and posting.. Why not respond to some of the many valid points throughout this entire thread, regarding this.Thank you, this is what is was trying to get at. Points are either removed or ignored, so a logical conclusion is that the thread really wasn't started to be a legitimate discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
Bionic Me Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 "An idle mind is the devil's workshop". Lotta free time I see... This place should charge $30 co-pay. People need this much input, yet they call this place and its users irrelevant, less of value than an apple tree and a bunch of ignorant, dark folks... OK. Link to post Share on other sites
Author OWoman Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thank you, this is what is was trying to get at. Points are either removed or ignored, so a logical conclusion is that the thread really wasn't started to be a legitimate discussion. because... I responded to what I felt pertinent to the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
thomasb Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Okay, never reported you before but I have to now, you're openly LYING about things I have said and it's completely unneccessary. What a shame. I reached the same conclusion as JT entirely. Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_Girl Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I reached the same conclusion as JT entirely. Naturally!!!!! There would be something very wrong in the world were that not the case. Link to post Share on other sites
jthorne Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Naturally!!!!! There would be something very wrong in the world were that not the case. I guess I am confused as to what's going on here. I do not feel I have LIED about anything, as you have accused me. It's possible that I misconstrued the intent of your post, but I am not the only one to have done so, and I certainly wasn't the first one to point it out to you. So, why not clarify the perceived inaccuracy of several people instead of accusing one specific person (me) of lying? This isn't the first time several people have pointed things out, yet I have been the one who's been targeted. If it's a personal issue, then perhaps the ignore function would be a better solution. Link to post Share on other sites
thomasb Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I guess I am confused as to what's going on here. I do not feel I have LIED about anything, as you have accused me. It's possible that I misconstrued the intent of your post, but I am not the only one to have done so, and I certainly wasn't the first one to point it out to you. So, why not clarify the perceived inaccuracy of several people instead of accusing one specific person (me) of lying? This isn't the first time several people have pointed things out, yet I have been the one who's been targeted. If it's a personal issue, then perhaps the ignore function would be a better solution. Again you are right JT. There. Done deal! Link to post Share on other sites
silktricks Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 That's what happens with these so-called "discussion" threads. Usually, that's why they are started. Now, some people will get reported, some will be put in moderated status, and the LS world goes round and round. It's what always happens. So really, one has to wonder why these threads are started in the first place, knowing the eventual outcome. Ya know, this really sucks. I've started discussion threads because I'm interested in the discussion. I don't presume to know why owoman started this thread anymore than I presume to know why you joined the thread. If 1/2 of the people who are on LS would stop assuming that they know what's in the mind of another anonymous poster, (and that goes for both *sides*, everyone would get a lot more out of their time here. But maybe that's not the reason people are here... Link to post Share on other sites
jthorne Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Ya know, this really sucks. I've started discussion threads because I'm interested in the discussion. just posting on what I and others have observed. Indeed, it does suck. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of your discussion threads didn't start out with a dig or veiled insult to one party or another. But maybe that's not the reason people are here... Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
JamieA Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 That's what happens with these so-called "discussion" threads. Usually, that's why they are started. Now, some people will get reported, some will be put in moderated status, and the LS world goes round and round. It's what always happens. So really, one has to wonder why these threads are started in the first place, knowing the eventual outcome. No really, one has to wonder why some choose to participate in "discussion" threads in the first place, when claiming to know the eventual outcome. Link to post Share on other sites
Author OWoman Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Ya know, this really sucks. I've started discussion threads because I'm interested in the discussion. I don't presume to know why owoman started this thread anymore than I presume to know why you joined the thread. If 1/2 of the people who are on LS would stop assuming that they know what's in the mind of another anonymous poster, (and that goes for both *sides*, everyone would get a lot more out of their time here. But maybe that's not the reason people are here... Thanks, Silk! Some of us are really tired of these cheap insults that get tossed our way all the time by others with some mysterious vendetta. Link to post Share on other sites
Author OWoman Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 just posting on what I and others have observed. Indeed, it does suck. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of your discussion threads didn't start out with a dig or veiled insult to one party or another. neither did this one. Link to post Share on other sites
tami-chan Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Sorry, I wasn't aware that "the world" was regarded as a person in some cultures. I've always regarded it as a planet. Forgive my cultural insensitivity. :lmao: ...here I thought my understanding of English was failing me....it is so interesting that Jthorne totally claimed the "world" as if it is "her"... a bit of a stretch, actually but hey, whatever... Link to post Share on other sites
tami-chan Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Honestly OW, I would expect the same response had I started a thread on empathy. In order to preach something one must be known for it, in their life and posting.. Why not respond to some of the many valid points throughout this entire thread, regarding this. "Preach"? that would just be your perspective-understandable since you are used to that kind of "talking to"... but the OP was just sharing an article and voiced her opinion that yes we can ALL learn from (including her). You are unwilling to just take the post at face value (per TOS) independent of the OP's history because you have are consumed by your prejudiced-understandable ( I do it, too) but let's not pretend that you are interested in ANY points she has to say. Link to post Share on other sites
jthorne Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 neither did this one.So you're honestly trying to say that there was absolutely no dig or disparaging of others in this quote? Rather than pointing fingers at other posters, it might behove everyone to read that carefully and consider how it might apply to them - either in their behaviour on this board, or elsewhere. While there are a couple of posters here who spring to mind as the incarnation of empathy and compassion, I would suspect that even those members would have the humility to pause and consider their own behaviour anew. Sorry, I just find that hard to believe. Link to post Share on other sites
jthorne Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 No really, one has to wonder why some choose to participate in "discussion" threads in the first place, when claiming to know the eventual outcome. To make a point or express an opinion. Isn't that why anyone bothers to post? Isn't that why you bothered to post? Just asking. You all enjoy your evening. Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 :laugh: i love these responses. In other words you are just bitter. No silly girl. People just think affairs are wrong. Are you going to cheer on affairs still when you are happily married? I am sorry you never experienced a happy marriage to know how good they can be. Maybe this one will be the happy one that will change your opinion of marriage and affairs. I hope so for you. FTR, and I am not speaking on behalf of SG but most OP are not 'cheering affairs'. They are cheering love, and very few kinds of love are wrong. That is where you can't empathize, but apparently your* spouse can. Sorry, but true. *not yours specifically Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Thank you, this is what is was trying to get at. Points are either removed or ignored, so a logical conclusion is that the thread really wasn't started to be a legitimate discussion. OMG, I just had to quote this so I can better point it out to Tony when I report it. Now we are questioning the intent of the poster? Can one's mind really be read? That is mighty powerful stuff. I wonder if my mind can be read, or Silk's mind or NID's mind. How amazing! Amazing maybe, but I would never say logical. Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 because...Because is right. At least you show logic where logic has gone wrong. Look everybody, it is clear that many here don't want to see that OPs can be empathetic. But to try to tear and pull the thread apart is beyond that, it's downright evil! Unbelievable actually. And calling out that behavior is NOT an unempathetic act; it is calling it by what it is so please don't confuse the two. Confusion seems to thrive in certain communities and I am sorry for them. And it was such a good topic. Owoman, once again, my hat is off to you. Always an intelligent conversation, always informative. I'm pretty sure it will get closed soon so I wanted to get that in. Link to post Share on other sites
desertIslandCactus Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 OMG, I just had to quote this so I can better point it out to Tony when I report it. . If points/posts are reported or not responded to, wouldn't that mean that the orig post was meant to be more of a statement than to further a discussion? Link to post Share on other sites
SidLyon Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 :lmao: ...here I thought my understanding of English was failing me....it is so interesting that Jthorne totally claimed the "world" as if it is "her"... a bit of a stretch, actually but hey, whatever... It was OWoman who said: Quote: Originally Posted by OWoman Oh well I guess the world - or at least, that subset represented here - really is a darker, more ignorant and more vicious place than I'd hoped. The reference was to the subset of the world here on LS. To me that is not talking about the world generally, but specifically about LS posters. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
turnstone Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 OT - I can post without resorting to personal attacks, especially now I'm in a good place, but I can't have a conversation with an OW about affairs, with any empathy involved. I just don't empathise with her situation, at all. I have zero understanding and zero desire to have any understanding, about what drives someone to be good with being an affair partner. However, I also no longer actually believe that anyone is perfectly ok with being the other woman so I have far more sympathy for those that are than I did before. Still no empathy though. I was taken aback by a post on this thread (can't find it now) that a poster made asking why it was so difficult to empathise with an OW when they could empathise with a murderer. I'm still shaking my head about that one! Link to post Share on other sites
Author OWoman Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 If points/posts are reported or not responded to, wouldn't that mean that the orig post was meant to be more of a statement than to further a discussion? No, it would mean that the OP respected the TOS and was trying to abide by those, keeping the thread on-topic, not engaging in or responding to personal attacks, posting inclusively rather than responding to one-on-one conversations better suited to PM and observing the requirement for civility and respect in posting. Link to post Share on other sites
Author OWoman Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 It was OWoman who said: Quote: Originally Posted by OWoman Oh well I guess the world - or at least, that subset represented here - really is a darker, more ignorant and more vicious place than I'd hoped. The reference was to the subset of the world here on LS. To me that is not talking about the world generally, but specifically about LS posters. Just saying. Would it have been fairer of me to state that I found, say, the depths of the Amazon rainforest, or Antarctica, or the Namib desert, to be darker, more ignorant and more vicious than I'd hoped, as a result of a disappointing experience on an internet forum when those places probably don't even have internet connectivity? Didn't seem that way to me. Perhaps I'm naive, but I would still like to believe that what has been demonstrated on this thread is not representative of the whole planet. he Link to post Share on other sites
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