Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 What women here seem not to understand is that it is not about strip clubs or porn or whatever else. I agree that men having women dancing on their lap is a very good reason for a wife to get upset but it is more than that. We live in a day and age where men feel very emasculated and under attack by women. It feels like women are trying to constantly change us and mold us into what they want us to be then when we do change they don't want it anymore and leaves us feeling very confused. These issues are where many men are drawing a line in the sand and standing our ground. I have friends who I can't even go out to dinner or lunch with without their wives throwing a fit. Last summer I had a friend over to take a dip in the pool and his wife comes knocking at the door screaming and yelling like she is his mother and he disobeyed her . I have seen time and time again married friends or even friends in relationships becoming more and more whipped to the point that they are afraid to speak without asking their wives first. Strip clubs are an extreme and I admit not healthy way of revolting against this. Add to this the fact that some women who are so much against strip clubs turn right around and then condone women having affairs and you see why men defend this right so much. If a man is married to a crazy, insecure shrew, he has every right to stand his ground. I admit, I was much more insecure in my younger years with my bf. I would sometimes freak out over little things. However, since I've gotten older, I have a new perspective. You can't control other people's behaviour. If a man wants to cheat, he will cheat, no matter how you act or look. The only thing you can control is your own actions anc choices. I choose to try and have a healthy relationship. It works for us. If my now-husband wants to mess around with others, he's more than welcome. He knows where the door is. I'm not saying this is the right way of thinking for everyone. However, it works for me. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) What women here seem not to understand is that it is not about strip clubs or porn or whatever else. I agree that men having women dancing on their lap is a very good reason for a wife to get upset but it is more than that. We live in a day and age where men feel very emasculated and under attack by women. It feels like women are trying to constantly change us and mold us into what they want us to be then when we do change they don't want it anymore and leaves us feeling very confused. These issues are where many men are drawing a line in the sand and standing our ground. I have friends who I can't even go out to dinner or lunch with without their wives throwing a fit. Last summer I had a friend over to take a dip in the pool and his wife comes knocking at the door screaming and yelling like she is his mother and he disobeyed her . I have seen time and time again married friends or even friends in relationships becoming more and more whipped to the point that they are afraid to speak without asking their wives first. Strip clubs are an extreme and I admit not healthy way of revolting against this. Add to this the fact that some women who are so much against strip clubs turn right around and then condone women having affairs and you see why men defend this right so much. ~ring ring~ Operator: weeeelcome to HELL home of the crispy fried human as* Stonecold: Hello may i please speak to Mephisto, the lord of the flies, the prince of darkness....you know who Operator: Please hold Satan: mmmm hellloooooo Stonecold: Uh yes Mr Devil? Has hell frozen over? because I am actually in AGREEMENT with Woggle. Edited April 8, 2011 by StoneCold Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I think it will be a wonderful day for everyone when men decide to not be emasculated. The last thing we need are snivelling, whiny little boys. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 We live in a day and age where men feel very emasculated and under attack by women. This is what its come to You got men now apologizing for being born a man. PATHETIC Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Kids are fed...you spend time with them, teach them, raise them, play with them. tuck them in. They are off in bed and you have your turn to go out and you're there for your kids flipping pancakes in the morning....whats the problem? So when you have your turn to go out, who stays in to take care of the kids while they are sleeping? Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I think it will be a wonderful day for everyone when men decide to not be emasculated. The last thing we need are snivelling, whiny little boys. oh you dont whine... you just DO....well thats my mantra anyways Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 So when you have your turn to go out, who stays in to take care of the kids while they are sleeping? uhh... they are sleeping whats to be done? and so is she....other wise I'd just be sitting at home twiddling my thumbs....whats your point? Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 oh you dont whine... you just DO....well thats my mantra anyways That's a good mantra. Sometimes you have to get **** done. It's not always fun, but it's necessary. I'm not too sure how old you are, but I see a lot of whiny little boys in my generation. I have no use for them. I'm 31. Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I guess we shouldn't be surprised to see so many threads from women complaining about their disrespectful or abusive husbands when there are cleary many men frequenting LS who have zero respect for women. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 No we're just waking up... not playing your woman games anymore. Before he would have just taken it...now they are trying to stand up for themselves....and soon they will just opt out. Baby steps. But I get it Canuck...its contrary to your mandate so your going to call it "infantile" "immature" thats all you got left Oh I see whats going on here! Guy didn't have the spine to hold out for a partner he actually was compatible with and now cruises LS dishing out "advise" in revenge for all the stuff he didn't have the sack to look for in a partner BEFORE marriage. YES all marriages must be the train wreck HIS is. All men must have been as foolish as he was. And all of them too must be so spineless that they need to resort to passive aggressive tactics like getting lap dances to upset the second mother their inner boy child gravitated to for marriage. That way when it blows up in their face - they can continue to not take responsibility for their actions and choices. Yes we must all be living the way Stonecold is because if we're not, he will have to acknowledge that his life is what he made of it and not the inevitable for all. Truly, I sympathize for him in the same way I'd have sympathy for a child bride in an arranged marriage. After all, marriage is a female invention and men are just foolish chumps with the mental process of children. I hope one day men are able to be seen as adults in this centuries long matriarchal world that oppresses them. Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I guess we shouldn't be surprised to see so many threads from women complaining about their disrespectful or abusive husbands when there are cleary many men frequenting LS who have zero respect for women. Unfortunately, this is a reality. Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Unfortunately, this is a reality. .......and not one that any self-respecting man should be proud of! Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I guess we shouldn't be surprised to see so many threads from women complaining about their disrespectful or abusive husbands when there are cleary many men frequenting LS who have zero respect for women. Dont forget the pendulum always swings the other way Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Maybe there is not much respect for women but there is not much respect for men either. Respect is a two way street which is something some women seem to forget. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) Oh I see whats going on here! Guy didn't have the spine to hold out for a partner he actually was compatible with and now cruises LS dishing out "advise" in revenge for all the stuff he didn't have the sack to look for in a partner BEFORE marriage. LMAO... so explain to me how you know NOW how compatible you will be with this person 5, 10, 15 years from now. Unicorns must exist in your reality. YES all marriages must be the train wreck HIS is. All men must have been as foolish as he was. And all of them too must be so spineless that they need to resort to passive aggressive tactics like getting lap dances to upset the second mother their inner boy child gravitated to for marriage. That way when it blows up in their face - they can continue to not take responsibility for their actions and choices. OK that made no sense...this may likely be because you cant read Yes we must all be living the way Stonecold is because if we're not, he will have to acknowledge that his life is what he made of it and not the inevitable for all. For all? no... but you're retarded if you think that the divorce stats indicate nothing. This i a discussion board and I'm giving my opinion.....dont like it? tough After all, marriage is a female invention and men are just foolish chumps with the mental process of children. Marriage is currently a female biased institution that is almost always sold as something else....again.. the divorce stats dont lie. I hope one day men are able to be seen as adults in this centuries long matriarchal world that oppresses them. Centuries long? no... currently? yes Edited April 8, 2011 by StoneCold Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Maybe there is not much respect for women but there is not much respect for men either. Respect is a two way street which is something some women seem to forget. oh yeah... hell is frigid and rock solid Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 It makes me very sad to see the Marriage & Life Partnersip section of LS descend into the gender wars that are so prevalent in the Dating section. I realise that the Community Guidelines mainly refer to disrespect and hostility towards individual members, but they do also mention 'groups'. I would assume that 'groups' includes 'all women' or 'all men'. Announcing in a thread that you have little or no respect for the opposite gender is unnecessary and extremely rude and it generally only occurs when people take threads personally........besides which, it's threadjacking! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I have respect for women but I wish they had more respect for men. It should go both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I have lot's of respect for men who know what is going on. However, I have very little respect for the manboys that seem to be popping up all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 It makes me very sad to see the Marriage & Life Partnersip section of LS descend into the gender wars that are so prevalent in the Dating section. I realise that the Community Guidelines mainly refer to disrespect and hostility towards individual members, but they do also mention 'groups'. I would assume that 'groups' includes 'all women' or 'all men'. Announcing in a thread that you have little or no respect for the opposite gender is unnecessary and extremely rude and it generally only occurs when people take threads personally........besides which, it's threadjacking! Tell me about it! This thread somehow managed to change from the OP's issue about her husband and strip clubs into Stonecold's "I'm not happy being married anymore; here is how I'm going to get my wife divorce me" thread. Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I have respect for women but I wish they had more respect for men. It should go both ways. Woggle, please don't. This is the old you talking. 'Women' do not lack respect for men. Some women lack respect for men, just as some men lack respect for women - and you know that. Please don't 'join in' with those who actually seem proud to disrespect women. You're better than that. (OP - apologies for the continued threadjack). Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Woggle, please don't. This is the old you talking. 'Women' do not lack respect for men. Some women lack respect for men, just as some men lack respect for women - and you know that. Please don't 'join in' with those who actually seem proud to disrespect women. You're better than that. (OP - apologies for the continued threadjack). Maybe true. Respect should go both ways and I think nobody man or woman should demand it unless they are willing to give it themselves. Sure there are plenty of manboys but there also plenty of woman girls as well. I have been to enough clubs and bars to have witnessed adult women getting so drunk I am surprised they didn't drop dead. I also see women in their 40s who still treat relationships as if they were in high school. This is not a one sided thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck1979 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 There is plenty of immaturity to go around. I have to use for manboys and no use for flakes. You can choose who to keep company with... Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 This is not a one sided thing. I don't think anybody said it was one-sided - but this thread is definitely one-sided. It is the man disrespecting the woman and not the other way around. Going back to the OP, and not taking anyone else's personal lives or history into account, her husband is being disrespectful attending strip clubs when it clearly bothers her so much. She is not trying to control him or 'clip his wings' or stop him from enjoying himself, because he can very easily have a night out in a bar that doesn't advertise naked women and lap dances as a major attraction. It's not an unreasonable request. Would anybody call her unreasonable for asking him not to visit prostitutes? It wouldn't hurt him to go out with his mates to a different venue and if he respected her feelings he would be happy to do that. A married man shouldn't be visiting strip clubs unless his partner feels ok about it and the OP quite clearly doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Stonecold's "I'm not happy being married anymore; here is how I'm going to get my wife divorce me" thread. Link to post Share on other sites
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