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So compare it to cutting off the extra skin around a clitoris. That is very similar, yet illegal in the USA.

 

No, cutting of the clitoral hood (Hoodectomy) is not illegal in the USA for women. I don't know what is the age limit though for this operation?

 

Please see this site: http://www.clitoralunhooding.com/dr-miklos.html

 

Tonsils is NOT comparable. You don't remove the tonsils of a baby for cosmetic reasons.
Neither Jewish nor Muslim families remove the foreskins of their sons for cosmetic reasons. They do so for reasons of belief and identity.

 

Tonsils is comparable in that some people had the tonsils removed of young kids (like me) in order to prevent tonsillitis and they do not see tonsils as being necessary (as of now.. maybe future research will show otherwise.) So, for many families, both removal of tonsils and removal of foreskin have medical reasons, and the foreskin is not considered incredibly necessary. Many families who are not religious have their sons' foreskins removed for health or tradition reasons.

 

I personally have never heard of anybody removing a foreskin cause it looks nicer...? Both look nice to me, cut or uncut. :p I actually prefer uncut, but I have no reason to villify male circumcision or accuse parents who make the decision and doctors who circumcise as abusers. It's a legit operation that has very little negative repercussions. (Many surgeries, by the way, can cause issues, but the issues caused by male circumcision are not extremely negative.) If those removing the foreskin meant no or very little sexual satisfaction, you can be sure less people would do it! Or, if men couldn't pee without their foreskin, again, it wouldn't be done. Most men would rather not be in pain, discomfort, or have any surgery that impedes their sexual pleasures. Most circumcised men have no issue with sex or using the bathroom.

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No, cutting of the clitoral hood (Hoodectomy) is not illegal in the USA for women. I don't know what is the age limit though for this operation?

 

Please see this site: http://www.clitoralunhooding.com/dr-miklos.html

Your link provides consensual hoodectomy of an ADULT (which is legal) - not babies. You never did answer whether you thought the operation is ok for babies and I'm tired of watching you sidestep.

 

Neither Jewish nor Muslim families remove the foreskins of their sons for

cosmetic reasons. They do so for reasons of belief and identity.

 

Tonsils is comparable in that some people had the tonsils removed of young kids (like me) in order to prevent tonsillitis and they do not see tonsils as being necessary (as of now.. maybe future research will show otherwise.) So, for many families, both removal of tonsils and removal of foreskin have medical reasons, and the foreskin is not considered incredibly necessary. Many families who are not religious have their sons' foreskins removed for health or tradition reasons.

 

I personally have never heard of anybody removing a foreskin cause it looks nicer...? Both look nice to me, cut or uncut. :p I actually

prefer uncut, but I have no reason to villify male circumcision or accuse

parents who make the decision and doctors who circumcise as abusers. It's a legit operation that has very little negative repercussions. (Many surgeries, by the way, can cause issues, but the issues caused by male circumcision are not extremely negative.) If those removing the foreskin meant no or very little sexual satisfaction, you can be sure less people would do it! Or, if men couldn't pee without their foreskin, again, it wouldn't be done. Most men would rather not be in pain, discomfort, or have any surgery that impedes their sexual pleasures. Most circumcised men have no issue with sex or using the bathroom.

I'm pretty speechless at the amount of ignorance in your statements. Speaking with you further is pointless. I'm done.

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Most dudes are not gonna wash themselves down there several times a day especially if they have a job. How are you going to do that if you are at work for 8-10 hours a day? You shoulnd't have to being scrubbing yourself all day just to stay fresh...get the skin cut off. I say all men should be circumcised because he will develop a bad reputation for having a smelly penis and that rep is hard to shake...

 

Which is exactly why you should have your labia removed.

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Your link provides consensual hoodectomy of an ADULT (which is legal) - not babies. You never did answer whether you thought the operation is ok for babies and I'm tired of watching you sidestep.

 

Lol. You wrote this:

 

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So compare it to cutting off the extra skin around a clitoris. That is very similar, yet illegal in the USA."

I answered you by saying it is indeed legal in the USA. From what you wrote above, it does not seem that you acknowledge that cutting off the "extra" skin around a clitoris is legal.

 

Concerning your question about if the operation is ok for babies, I did answer you. I wrote (and you can check what I wrote) about how just removing the clit hood is actually a very rare "circumcision" for girls, and that I am against female circumcision, as well as the reasons why I am against it. Please check, and if I am going to take the time to write about something, I don't get "tired" of people replying. If you don't think I answered your question to your satisfaction, let me know, but courtesy goes a long way.

I'm pretty speechless at the amount of ignorance in your statements. Speaking with you further is pointless. I'm done.

 

Have you ever been in a debate class? If you consider any statements I have made to be false, please provide evidence. If you wish to be done, fine, but this "speechless at the amount of ignorance"... "pointless" is really not what debate is about. If you can't handle debate, fine. Debate is a fine art in which insults are not necessary, and requires research and providing why you think what you do, so bring it if you have it (though of course you're done.)
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Ask a surgeon. They remove both mandatory and not necessary parts everyday.

 

So I should also ask a surgeon if he's willing to cut off my newborn's pinky toe? What do you think that surgeon would say?

 

Your above quote is extreme exaggerating. The foreskin is skin, not a separate appendage.

 

It's part of a human organ that's attached to the human body. Would you consider your eyelid just a piece of skin?

 

That is interesting how you consider it comparable to cut off a finger and cutting off the foreskin of a penis, while you do not consider removing the tonsils (which are not proven to be mandatory for the body to have) to be comparable to removing the foreskin of a penis.

 

Tonsils serve a purpose. They're part of the lymphatic system. Just because you can lead a healthy life without them doesn't mean they're not "mandatory." You can also live a healthy life with just one kidney, but do you think it'd be a good idea to have one of your child's kidneys taken out for the heck of it? What about their spleen? How about a dozen of their lymph nodes? Hey, it'll reduce their chance of developing lymphatic tumors. While we're at it, we might as well take out one ovary since you don't really need both.

 

Personally I do not see how cutting off a part of the body with bone or cartilage is comparable to cutting of the foreskin of the penis.

 

So now the standard is that the body part being chopped off must have bone and cartilage in order for the action to be a little too much?

 

Okay, then removing a baby girl's clitoris or slicing off pieces of her labia are acceptable by that standard.

 

Removing tonsils is comparable because both tonsils and foreskins can be removed without horrible consequences to the person.

 

I've met men who HAVE had negative consequences as a result of circumcision. What's your answer to that? "Too bad, it's just like having your tonsils out! Plus, women have to wax their legs, so it's all good." ? If you had a son and thought to go ahead and circumcise because the odds looked okay to you and he ended up having sexual problems for the rest of his life because of it, how would that make you feel?

 

Of course they feel pain at the time, but they don't remember it. That's the benefit of circumcising an infant. The same as them going through the pain of teething, they don't remember it when they're older.

 

Sorry, but this is just infuriating. Would it be okay for me to punch my baby as long as the child isn't old enough to remember it? What if I want to try out that new elf ear cosmetic surgery on an infant? Is that cool because the baby won't remember the pain? Let's get the child some tattoos and cartilage piercings while we're at it.

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Wow. Some amazing views here. Seriously eye-opening. Not sure what any of it has to do with dating, but it's been an interesting read.

 

 

For anyone who needs to step back and take a deep breath, here's a bunny: :bunny:

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So I should also ask a surgeon if he's willing to cut off my newborn's pinky toe? What do you think that surgeon would say?

 

I would think the surgeon would patiently explain to you that there is a big difference between a pinky toe and a foreskin, what those differences are, and the benefits/risks to cutting off a foreskin, and the risks and lack of benefits to cutting of the toe. My sister and her mother-in-law are both nurses, both have worked in maternity wards and in the ER, and both have had their male children circumcised and are against female circumcision. Many people in the medical world, from nurses to surgeons, do not consider circumcision to be similar to cutting off a toe...

 

 

It's part of a human organ that's attached to the human body. Would you consider your eyelid just a piece of skin?

Um yes, but the eyelid has a different purpose than the foreskin does. Purpose is important.

 

 

 

Tonsils serve a purpose. They're part of the lymphatic system. Just because you can lead a healthy life without them doesn't mean they're not "mandatory."
What does mandatory mean then? For example, my heart is mandatory. If I don't have it (or a heart transplant) I'm dead, right? Tonsils are not mandatory in the sense that a heart is.

 

Maybe you are meaning the degree of what is mandatory? Tonsils are on the low level of degree of mandatory. Foreskin is considered by many people to also be on the low level of mandatory.

 

You can also live a healthy life with just one kidney, but do you think it'd be a good idea to have one of your child's kidneys taken out for the heck of it? What about their spleen? How about a dozen of their lymph nodes? Hey, it'll reduce their chance of developing lymphatic tumors. While we're at it, we might as well take out one ovary since you don't really need both.
Those are good points. :) I like debating with you about this topic. However, I don't know of any belief system where taking out one's kidneys or spleen or lymph nodes as an infant is a part of that belief. However, Judaism does have circumcision as part of the belief, though (I don't know how many?) Jewish people today do not circumcise. Many do circumcise though, as well as people of other beliefs, or people with health reasons or family tradition reasons.

 

 

So now the standard is that the body part being chopped off must have bone and cartilage in order for the action to be a little too much?

Well, with the example of the eyelid, you got me there. :p

 

Okay, then removing a baby girl's clitoris or slicing off pieces of her labia are acceptable by that standard.

Most people who do female circumcision do not understand the risks and the complications this brings. Bringing the nurses in my family back into the picture again, they have worked on women before who have been mutiliated :( and educate them concerning the complications. Female circumcision though (removal of the clitoris/labia) is more like castration or semi-castration than circumcision.

 

I've met men who HAVE had negative consequences as a result of circumcision. What's your answer to that? "Too bad, it's just like having your tonsils out!

My answer to that is that yes there are men who have had complications/regrets/issues with being circumcised. Actually, people with many different kinds of operations have complications/regrets/issues, though not everyone has the same ones and some people have none at all. It really depends on the person and on how the surgery was done.

 

I have met men who have had no negative consequences (that they say) as a result of circumcision. They like the fact that they are circumcised. What would you say to that?

Plus, women have to wax their legs, so it's all good." ? If you had a son and thought to go ahead and circumcise because the odds looked okay to you and he ended up having sexual problems for the rest of his life because of it, how would that make you feel?

It would make me regret my decision, I have to admit. However, if, like in Mr Cairo's case, circumcision would help, then I would be sure when/if boy was young and if I saw symptoms, that I would get him circumcised so he wouldn't be in pain with peeing...

 

My exhusband is uncut, and my boyfriend is uncut. I am not planning on circumcising my baby boy (if I have one someday) because I am not Jewish or Muslim, and it's not part of my beliefs. However, as a person highly interested in interfaith discussion and freedom, I do believe it is the right of the parents to decide whether they want to circumcise their baby boy or not.

 

Yes, it is permanent, but who knows? Maybe someday scientists/doctors will invent away to grow a foreskin back? Science and medical advancements are amazing and are not finished yet in learning new things. They have already learned however that circumcision can help males who are suffering certain issues.

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Wow. Some amazing views here. Seriously eye-opening. Not sure what any of it has to do with dating, but it's been an interesting read.

 

 

For anyone who needs to step back and take a deep breath, here's a bunny: :bunny:

 

Women can be fierce hmm? Where's a lioness/tigress smiley? :bunny:

 

I think it's the maternal instinct that motivates much of the "interesting read" in this thread, though yeah it has left the OP's question. Just realized that.

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My answer to that is that yes there are men who have had complications/regrets/issues with being circumcised. Actually, people with many different kinds of operations have complications/regrets/issues, though not everyone has the same ones and some people have none at all. It really depends on the person and on how the surgery was done.

 

I have met men who have had no negative consequences (that they say) as a result of circumcision. They like the fact that they are circumcised. What would you say to that?

 

The difference's is that people who have complications from other operations, choosed to have the operation as an adult or they had it because they had to.

 

Circumcisions are completley unnecessary, so why risk that the boy might have complications and then later regrets about it?

 

And, I'd like to point out that I don't think most men who are cut have any complications or issues with it. Some do though, and it's unfortunate because like I've already pointed out the procedure has no real purpose(unless you're jewish/muslim).

 

The thing that I guess bothers me the most is that parents think it's "good" parenting to have a boy cut and that they feel it's no big deal and that they are entitled to make that kinda decision for an infant boy.

 

I've yet to see a good reason as to why boys should be cut at such a young age and not wait until they can actually have a say in the matter.

Whats the real problem with waiting say idk 10 years until the boy can say Yes or No? Are you afraid that he might actually say No and you don't get as you want? Because here's the deal, Parents who cut their boys only think about what they want and it's not about what they want when it comes to that.

 

Parents should make decisions for their kids, but not that decision. A circumcision is permanent and irreversable and it's not really in the childs best intrest(it's in the parents best intrest only) and it has nothing to do with raising him.

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The difference's is that people who have complications from other operations, choosed to have the operation as an adult or they had it because they had to.

 

Circumcisions are completley unnecessary, so why risk that the boy might have complications and then later regrets about it?

 

And, I'd like to point out that I don't think most men who are cut have any complications or issues with it. Some do though, and it's unfortunate because like I've already pointed out the procedure has no real purpose(unless you're jewish/muslim).

 

The thing that I guess bothers me the most is that parents think it's "good" parenting to have a boy cut and that they feel it's no big deal and that they are entitled to make that kinda decision for an infant boy.

 

I've yet to see a good reason as to why boys should be cut at such a young age and not wait until they can actually have a say in the matter.

 

Whats the real problem with waiting say idk 10 years until the boy can say Yes or No? Are you afraid that he might actually say No and you don't get as you want? Because here's the deal, Parents who cut their boys only think about what they want and it's not about what they want when it comes to that.

 

Parents should make decisions for their kids, but not that decision. A circumcision is permanent and irreversable and it's not really in the childs best intrest(it's in the parents best intrest only) and it has nothing to do with raising him.

You summed it up very well. I totally agree with you.

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I don't know really, I never got the chance to be with one. However no big..I probably would not be very picky about it. If there is chemistry and attraction, (I would hope) the last thing on my mind is if he is cut or not.

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The difference's is that people who have complications from other operations, choosed to have the operation as an adult or they had it because they had to.

 

That's a good point, but I think that there are some men who get circumcised if they convert to Judaism or Islam as well.

Circumcisions are completley unnecessary,

 

Circumcicions are not completely unnecessary if men later in life "had" to have them... some people see circumcisions to be a preventable means to a condition in which some (though not the majority) boys/men experience later on in life, for which they "had" to get circumcised.

 

so why risk that the boy might have complications and then later regrets about it?

 

Good question. That's a wonderful question for doctors and nurses to address for any parents who are considering circumcising their baby boy.

And, I'd like to point out that I don't think most men who are cut have any complications or issues with it.

 

The above is very important for the argument that circumcision does NOT make men (or their parents) monsters, nor is circumcision a form of abuse, if done right by a knowledgeable properly qualified doctor.

 

Some do though, and it's unfortunate

 

True, and that is a great point against circumcising infants.

 

because like I've already pointed out the procedure has no real purpose

 

Except for medical reasons?

(unless you're jewish/muslim).

 

The belief systems are one of the main reasons why male circumcision is such a touchy issue, because it is a documented part of Judaism, and even though the Quran doesn't say anything about male circumcision, I do think that Muslims "copy" Jewish traditions concerning some areas of this procedure (even though I think most wait till the boys are older?) Some Christians circumcise as well, maybe copying Jewish beliefs but I haven't really heard that much about it, though many male members in my family are circumcised. (No female in my family is circumcised though, that I know of.)

 

Anyways, it is possible that the reason circumcision was/still is a normal practice in the USA is because of Judeo-Christian traditions, as well as when Jewish people were persecuted by the Nazis in Europe, many fled to the USA (though there are Nazi and KKK and other supremacist groups here too.) :( Also, many people have heard there are health reasons that "promote" circumcision. With that and not as much (hopefully) prejudice against circumcised people, it is possible that many people who are not of specific belief system have adopted circumcision.

 

The thing that I guess bothers me the most is that parents think it's "good" parenting to have a boy cut and that they feel it's no big deal and that they are entitled to make that kinda decision for an infant boy.

 

Pregnant women are entitled to make the decision of whether they will continue their pregnancy to term and give birth, or abort, correct? That is a big deal, and circumcision is a big deal too, though parents who have their boys circumcised do not consider it a life-threatening or bad thing to do. If they did consider it to be a horrible atrocity, they wouldn't permit it done, right?

I've yet to see a good reason as to why boys should be cut at such a young age and not wait until they can actually have a say in the matter.

 

Apparently it is more painful and hurts more the older one is?

 

From http://kidshealth.org/parent/system/surgical/circumcision.html

 

"Circumcision after the newborn period can be a more complicated procedure and usually requires general anesthesia."

 

 

It doesn't go into detail, but I am sure some medical research study goes into more detail about it.

 

 

Whats the real problem with waiting say idk 10 years until the boy can say Yes or No?

 

One "problem" could be that the older one is, the more traumatic the surgery could be.

 

Another "problem" is identity; it is a part of the identity for many Jewish people.

 

Are you afraid that he might actually say No and you don't get as you want?

 

Me personally? I have already wrote I am not planning on circumcising my baby boy if I have one, not unless the doctor recommends it for health reasons. Concerning parents, sometimes identity is more important to some people than individual "wants." For Jewish people who believe in God and believe in the commands, they are supposed to circumcise baby boys on the 8th day I think?

Because here's the deal, Parents who cut their boys only think about what they want and it's not about what they want when it comes to that.

 

Not everybody just thinks in "wants." Many people also think in duties/responsibilities/beliefs. For example, many people do not want to go to work or want to mow the grass, but they do it anyways. Life isn't always about what one wants.

Parents should make decisions for their kids, but not that decision.

 

If parents do not circumcise their kids, that is a decision they make too, and in my opinion, both are fine, depending on the beliefs of the parents. Freedom of belief goes right along with freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of assembly, and so on.

 

A circumcision is permanent and irreversable

 

True, though again, it's possible eventually doctors/scientists may discover a way to grow a foreskin. That would be amazing.

 

and it's not really in the childs best intrest(it's in the parents best intrest only)

 

How it is in the parents' best interest?

 

and it has nothing to do with raising him.

 

Anything that has to do with decisions parents make for their children have to do with raising them.

 

I have to go because I should be packing (am moving soon) but instead have spent too much time on the computer. Loveshack is addicting, and this topic is much more interesting than packing.

 

Chao

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Just to add to the discussion regarding religion . . . . .

 

The three big monotheistic religions in the world: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all tied together pretty closely, so don't be surprised when certain groups (or all of them) share certain beliefs or morals as other ones. They aren't the same religion. I know the differences between them, but they overlap in A LOT of ways. A lot of their morals and spiritual figures are the same as one another. Muslims have Jesus. Christians have Moses. They all sort of relate to one another.

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All of the world's religions are connected and had their origins in the Mesopotamian civilization. The Christian(and all religions connected to it) religion ripped off the religion of the Mesopotamians.

 

Regardless, other religions aren't as closely connected or similar as these three. That's why Judeo-Christian morals are often called that because they basically share the same morality system as each other.

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Another thing about parents not having the right to have it done on the baby boy. Parents own their children, and if they decide that they have or want to remove the foreskin of the baby, so be it. They're the ones feeding and clothing the babies, not us, so they have the right to make that decision.

 

What's next? Babies can't get vaccines because they might not need that, that much in the western world?

Parent's don't own their children. Their are laws to protect children and even have some say in how they are raised.

 

There are laws that dictate what subjects and how long you must educate your child.

 

You cannot abuse your child. This includes physical, emotional, sexual abuse and sexual exploitation. You can't take a nudie of your kid and make a buck off of it. Even though you could argue that it didn't "hurt"

them.

 

You don't OWN your child. They are a person with rights.

 

As for vaccines, there is much controversy as to the benefits and risk. Because the answer is not clear, it's up to the parent to (hopefully) make the right choice. But whatever they choose, it's done for the health of the baby. That is very rarely done in the case of circumcisions. Most people have it done without even thinking it through because "it's always been done that way". Thankfully, that IS changing.

 

http://circumcisiondecisionmaker.com/circumcision-facts/

 

About 117 boys die each year in the United States as a result of their circumcision, most from infections or blood loss.

 

The current U.S. circumcision rate is steadily declining. In 2010 it was 32%. That’s a huge drop from 56% in 2006 and 65% in 2002.

 

Most physicians do not have their sons circumcised. Why not, if circumcision is medically advisable? Since most have performed the surgery as part of their training, they are the ones who should know more about its consequences than anyone else.

 

Contrary to frequent claims, infants do feel pain as intensely as adults, and very possibly even more.

 

Circumcision regularly removes a shocking 3/4 of the penis’s sensitivity through the removal of the ridged band, foreskin “lips,” and most often the entire frenulum.

 

Anesthesia is used in only 45% of circumcisions; the type of anesthetic varies. The most effective method does not eliminate all pain, and the most common type used, a topical creme, does almost nothing to reduce it. In fact, a major clinical test of the various types of anesthetics, on actual infants, was halted for humane reasons because of the intense pain.

 

As adults, men circumcised in infancy are 4.5 times more likely to be diagnosed with erectile dysfunction (ED). They are also 1.6 times more likely to suffer from alexithymia, a psychological trait disorder which causes difficulty in identifying and expressing one’s emotions.

 

Circumcision has never been proven to be effective in either reducing or treating cervical cancer, penile cancer, urinary tract infections, or sexually transmitted diseases including HIV/AIDS.

 

Not one medical association in America, or anywhere else in the world, recommends infant circumcision; some even recommend against it.

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Women can be fierce hmm? Where's a lioness/tigress smiley? :bunny:

 

Very fierce, but I wasn't intending to single out either sex; there are some men expressing robust views as well. That's fine; deeply held beliefs bring out strong reactions, but still: :bunny:

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Parent's don't own their children. Their are laws to protect children and even have some say in how they are raised.

 

I wasn't aware that abortion is now illegal.

 

It is illegal in the Republic of Ireland and is only permissable if continuing the pregnancy would endanger the mother's life.

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Mr Cairo (with vested muslim interests no doubt stupid man - surprise!!!) defends circumcision.

 

But normal people (yes, and we in Europe manage perfectly well without cutting boys' penises in pieces for no reason that anyone can make up on the spot!) will see there is no necessity for this stupidity.

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Mr Cairo (with vested muslim interests no doubt stupid man - surprise!!!) defends circumcision.

 

But normal people (yes, and we in Europe manage perfectly well without cutting boys' penises in pieces for no reason that anyone can make up on the spot!) will see there is no necessity for this stupidity.

 

You know, it doesn't take intellect, a good education, or maturity in order to insult others. All it takes is using offensive words.

 

An intelligent person understands that insulting someone is not productive, because what good does insulting do? It just shows anger, frustration, lack of courtesy, lack of character, and inability to express oneself without personally attacking others.

 

What do they teach in schools these days? :p

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There is no reason to be hateful, nasty or call people names on this subject! Seriously!

 

In the US, it is a decision that is left up to the parents. Whether you agree with it or not, doesn't matter. You don't get to judge people for what they decide to do. Goodness people, grow up!

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There is no reason to be hateful, nasty or call people names on this subject! Seriously!

 

In the US, it is a decision that is left up to the parents. Whether you agree with it or not, doesn't matter. You don't get to judge people for what they decide to do. Goodness people, grow up!

 

Agreed!

 

When I was at university, my professors taught us to be tolerant and respectful and agree to disagree, and how to discuss without lowering oneself to shooting people with insults. Diversity is a part of life, and a part of living with people (including people in one's own family) is that not everybody agrees on everything, from tiny little things like how to squeeze the toothpaste, to very sensitive subjects like the one in this thread.

 

What's good is for people to research and give information, so that parents can make informed decisions for their families. Not all families are the same. Families are diverse too, with different goals, beliefs, and traditions. When some people disagree with others, insulting them doesn't help anything. My sister and my sister's mother-in-law didn't insult the people they went to help who had fistulas, due to female mutilation and giving birth. Rather,they taught the families the risks (many of which the women were experiencing themselves) and how to prevent fistulas and other painful consequences of female mutilation from happening (which includes not doing female "circumcision.")

 

People rarely trust people who insult them, but when people see that other people care for them, have their best interest at heart, and are showing reasons as to another view, that can make a much better difference than being offensive.

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Alot of women seem to think not being circumcised is disgusting.

 

I really doubt that's true. Most of the world is intact.

 

The American porn industry has the AVN (Adult Video News) awards yearly. I recently heard on the radio some clips from this year's ceremony.

 

The outstanding male porn performer award has gone to Manuel Ferar for the third straight year. He is intact. They played audio of some of the women who have done scenes with him. They all said they would PAY to make love to him, that sex with him rocked their world like nothing else ever.

 

With an intact guy there is more surface to interact and play with, and less friction during intercourse. It's more plush and luxurious. It takes a lot less effort to give an intact man pleasure orally. Who wouldn't be excited about being with someone who is just plain more responsive and pleasure receptive?

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I really doubt that's true. Most of the world is intact.

 

The American porn industry has the AVN (Adult Video News) awards yearly. I recently heard on the radio some clips from this year's ceremony.

 

The outstanding male porn performer award has gone to Manuel Ferar for the third straight year. He is intact. They played audio of some of the women who have done scenes with him. They all said they would PAY to make love to him, that sex with him rocked their world like nothing else ever.

 

With an intact guy there is more surface to interact and play with, and less friction during intercourse. It's more plush and luxurious. It takes a lot less effort to give an intact man pleasure orally. Who wouldn't be excited about being with someone who is just plain more responsive and pleasure receptive?

 

Looks like ill have to do some investigative work....:cool:

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