Never thought I would be doing this

[ladydesigner]

I guess. Maybe you can only impress a "young" girl. LOL! Why don't you try hooking up with a real, grown a$$ woman. A 22yr old doesn't even know how to s*ck it. (Sorry no offense to the young'ns)

 

:lmao: I love this post. So true!!!! Where is the like button when you need it.

[Eve]

Ok, time for me to leave. Cross cultural differences here.. Basis of thought: MIMs messing with someone who I respect due to similar religious beliefs and not phrasing this in humour or some level of humanistic thought at very least.

 

Oh well. Be the best you can be and all that all!

 

Take care,

Eve xx

[Mimolicious]

As I age -- what I've noticed in the last maybe 5-10 years is that MOST young girls in their 20's that go after men in your age bracket do it because they are looking for a Sugar Daddy. They aren't looking for sex perse. They are looking for a lifestyle.

Most kids (yes, she is a kid) in that age bracket feel some entitlement. They're looking for what their parents have - Immediate Gratification. Instead of working for it.

 

You are taking her on an all expense paid trip. What's she going to want from you after this trip is over? A new apartment? Some clothes? Another trip?

 

I'm assuming that thru all of your lunch dates she is aware that you're married? Right? If you let this blossom into a full fledged affair you better be prepared for fallout. BTW- if you're keeping these lunch dates a secret from your wife - you're in a sense cheating already.

 

 

BINGO!!!!!!!!!! You better beef up the wallet buddy!

Why don't you try feeding this chick White Castle. Tell her to lend you money to pay your cellphone bill because you are broke. Better yet, go dutch on this trip. Take her out to dinner and have her pay half. I want to bet all my Loubies that her facial expression will change, she will resist to put out and the connection will have some serious static.

 

Try it! I dare you. Seriously. Try her.

[Mimolicious]

[COLOR=#0000aa]The part of the brain that inhibits risky behavior does not fully develop until age 25.[/COLOR]

A National Institutes of Health study suggests that the region of the brain that inhibits risky behavior is not fully formed until age 25, a finding with implications for a host of policies, including the nation's driving laws.

"We'd thought the highest levels of physical and brain maturity were reached by age 18, maybe earlier --

so

this threw us," said Jay Giedd, a pediatric psychiatrist leading the study, which released its first results in April. That makes adolescence "a dangerous time, when it should be the best."

So that is why teenagers are so reckless. Hardly comforting news. You can know this and they will still be reckless after all.

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/000603.html

 

You are old enough to know better, she is not. You can fool yourself thinking you are all that but this very young adult doesn't know any better and as far as I'm concerned you are taking advantage of someone who doesn't know any better.

 

You talk kind about your wife yet you can't be honest with her? You have no idea what the after effect will be. This girl may go back and inform your wife...or maybe her boyfriend and you will be alone.

 

Maybe you are not all that and that is the reason along with a medical condition that your wife doesn't want to have sex with you. Are you well manicured? Do you take care of yourself? Or are you a creature of habit and come home, put your things by the door, change your clothes and stare at the tv for the night? Your wife may be bored with you.

 

I am the one that made the comment about not having things in common. There is a twenty year span of life that you have experienced that she has not and sometimes life lessons are taught. This poor girl hasn't had but a few years to live as an adult. Do her a favor and be a good man and NOT take advantage of her. This is just my two cents.

 

IRISH- YOU just killed me with that one. Water went out my nose and I caught the biggest chest pain ever while I choked on water. FML!!!!! I CANT!!!!!!!!!!:lmao::lmao:

[Memphis Raines]

Maybe an escort would be easier.

 

maybe you need to divorce your wife so she can get on with her life.

 

it amazes me that people like you exist.

[Memphis Raines]

I don't want a divorce for many reasons, in order of importance:

 

1) I really love her and care about her.

 

no, you don't

 

 

2)I don't want to give up my standard of living and have her do the same.

 

well why not let her make the choice? let her decide if her standard of living is more important than living with a liar and a cheater.

 

I knew full well my standard of living would go down, money-wise anyway.

 

but I didn't care, it wasn't worth living with a cheater. I divorced, money recovored, and now I'm happier than I would have been living in the old house with her.

 

so how about let your wife make that decision for herself. your desire for your standard of living is not of importance in this grand scheme.

 

 

3)I don't want my family to be angry and depressed.

 

should have thought about that before cheating.

 

 

4)I want to be in a happy committed relationship. It just has to be a two way street.

 

 

then divorce your wife and go for the misstress.

 

5)And yes, the thought of being alone scares me.

 

thats not your wife's problem. so you will keep your wife around for your own selfish end.

 

I hope your wife finds out so she can make up her own mind how to live her life. She doesn't deserve this.

[Mimolicious]

Ok, time for me to leave. Cross cultural differences here.. Basis of thought: MIMs messing with someone who I respect due to similar religious beliefs and not phrasing this in humour or some level of humanistic thought at very least.

 

Oh well. Be the best you can be and all that all!

 

Take care,

Eve xx

 

No comprende...

 

Eve, where you going buddy? LOL! Don't get all "monk" on me now.

 

I think that men/women in their mid-life get this "larger than life" ego and pray on younger inexperienced lovers. They are easier to trick than someone than someone not as vulnerable. What is sad is that this dude is the one probably really being fooled.

 

This 22yr old may bring him thrills but she can be gaming him for all we know. Like I said before. Try her out. Tell her that you are leaving your W for her and that you want to have 4 babies. Tell us how that fancies her.

[foggyandconfused]

No comprende...

I think that men/women in their mid-life get this "larger than life" ego and pray on younger inexperienced lovers. They are easier to trick than someone than someone not as vulnerable. What is sad is that this dude is the one probably really being fooled.

 

This 22yr old may bring him thrills but she can be gaming him for all we know. Like I said before. Try her out. Tell her that you are leaving your W for her and that you want to have 4 babies. Tell us how that fancies her.

 

The word is "prey." I am certainly not going to "pray" with her, as we both couldn't care less about religion. "I am not preying" on anyone, not tricking anyone, not trying to take advantage of anyone and I am not being fooled. I also do not "fancy" to have babies with anyone.

 

She is boosting my ego, so I guess it can't be "larger than life." I do not consider myself to be some stud and she is no con artist, waiting to try to steal or rob from someone. Take off the foil hat, please.

 

Maybe she is going to get my DNA, clone me, and use the clone to rob banks? Maybe she will turn into a reptilian and kill me?

 

We both are adults, regardless of the psycho-babble posted before. She is 22. She has a college degree and works full time. She has not lived at home since she was 18. She is not some naive 14 year old.

 

Sheesh.

[SidLyon]

.... "I am not preying" on anyone, not tricking anyone, not trying to take advantage of anyone and I am not being fooled. ....

 

...

Sheesh.

 

I agree you are not being fooled in the slightest. I disagree with all the posters who are suggesting you are compromising yourself in some way as clearly you are not.

 

The person you are fooling/tricking/abusing is your wife. You are also inviting this young woman into your and your wife's marriage, but not allowing your wife any say in what happens. You repeatedly say you have talked to your wife about this but you haven't specifically told her at all - just talked in generalities.

 

The definition of cheating for many people is doing something with another that you are not willing for your spouse to know about or observe. IMO you are already cheating as your wife has no idea what is going on and what you are intending to do.

 

AS I BW I would have so appreciated some real honesty from my H but I didn't get it until he'd had his fun and fantasy and it's pretty clear your wife isn't going to get it from you either.

[bentnotbroken]

I agree you are not being fooled in the slightest. I disagree with all the posters who are suggesting you are compromising yourself in some way as clearly you are not.

 

The person you are fooling/tricking/abusing is your wife. You are also inviting this young woman into your and your wife's marriage, but not allowing your wife any say in what happens. You repeatedly say you have talked to your wife about this but you haven't specifically told her at all - just talked in generalities.

 

The definition of cheating for many people is doing something with another that you are not willing for your spouse to know about or observe. IMO you are already cheating as your wife has no idea what is going on and what you are intending to do.

 

AS I BW I would have so appreciated some real honesty from my H but I didn't get it until he'd had his fun and fantasy and it's pretty clear your wife isn't going to get it from you either.

 

 

Nope. That was pretty clear from the beginning of his post. No one should be in a sexless or unfaithful marriage. I guess you both are going to get screwed. Pity.

[John Michael Kane]

I guess. Maybe you can only impress a "young" girl. LOL! Why don't you try hooking up with a real, grown a$$ woman. A 22yr old doesn't even know how to s*ck it. (Sorry no offense to the young'ns)

 

Nope you're highly mistaken. Besides a lot of oldies are a bit rusty. These 50-year-olds need to get in their rocking chair and take their meds.

[Tayla]

Mimi! Mimi!! Ohh do my reading next!!! Since I am an older women do you see a young man in my future?? Other then my grandson whom I adore dearly!

Seriously you nailed that reading! Wait til the guy gets that bill along with his walking papers.

 

No one on the face of this earth can convince me that a 22 year young Lady is soo versed in Life experiences that she can match wits/wisdom with a 40 sum year old man. Married no less. Granted the gent doesnt seem to have much common sense which may be the catalyst that puts them on the same level. I can only imagine this whole scenario is a figment of this mans imagination anyways...

 

I stand by my original advice: Get a divorce. Stop the irrational thinking.

[2sunny]

i would be interested to understand what "illness" keeps a wife from intimate encounters with a husband.

 

sexual intercourse = maybe... but that is not the only option for physical intimacy. she has a moth correct? she has arms and fingers for touching, correct? she has OPTIONS.

 

she certainly must not intend to have sex with you - if that is her intent - to keep intimacy away from the relationship - and you need that - then divorce her.

 

if you do that- wait until the ink is dry to resume any relationship with any woman - until you finish with the marriage and start with the next woman.

 

if it's THAT good with the young gal- she will wait. if not, then you never had anything to consider anyway.

 

what IS your wife capable of doing? be specific. if it's just that she doesn't even intend to give you kisses and a bj - then she isn't showing being connected or loving behavior to you. then leave.

[Carrot2000]

You repeatedly say you have talked to your wife about this but you haven't specifically told her at all - just talked in generalities.

 

A guy I was kinda-sorta dating confessed that his wife did not have sex with him for seven years. He told me how unlovable he felt because of her rejection, how he started eating his pain and gained a lot of weight--which only made him feel even more undesirable. I had a female friend tell me a similar story of how her husband had no interest in her sexually, and how it is such a blow to your self-esteem when your mate rejects you sexually.

 

I totally understand where you're coming from. I think withholding affection, in some cases, is downright abusive.

 

Foggy, you're about to make a life-altering decision; now is not the time to be conflict-avoidant. Before you go to a hotel room with this "friend", you need to tell your wife in no uncertain terms that she needs to make a concerted effort to address her medical issues and that if she fails to do so, you will take it as a sign that she is no longer interested in the marriage.

 

YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STAND!

 

You can't let your fear of living in an apartment or disappointing your relatives keep you from asserting that you have needs--needs that you want your wife to meet. She needs a wake-up call, but don't give her one by cheating.

 

Don't take the easy way out. Be honest and be ready to stand your ground.

[SidLyon]

... she has a moth correct? ...

 

My goodness 2sunny - you must be very creative in the bedroom.

 

Butterfly kisses anyone!

[2sunny]

My goodness 2sunny - you must be very creative in the bedroom.

 

Butterfly kisses anyone!

 

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

well- i am creative with any opening i have!

 

but seriously - just because a man may not be capable of entering her vagina - doesn't mean she can't be a giver in other ways.

 

if she's selfish - that's one thing. if he responds by being more selfish than she is = that isn't the solution to this issue... that is simply fueling the fire in a negative way.

 

if she doesn't want any part of connecting with him physically - then take that as fact - understand it - and say adios... this doesn't work for me. THAT is what honesty looks like.

 

you can have all the love you want between two people - but take the sex away and there needs to be some form of compensation to show loving acts between the two if the act of sex has been eliminated. if there's no valid replacements - someone always suffers from hurt and pain. then usually justification and feeling vengeful usually enter the picture after time passes. none of which is a positive influence on the relationship.

[Mimolicious]

Nope you're highly mistaken. Besides a lot of oldies are a bit rusty. These 50-year-olds need to get in their rocking chair and take their meds.

 

Shut up! my dentures just fell off! NOT! Oh please, I am in my early 30's and I would hate to shack a 20 yr old. That's like going back to training wheels. Perhaps, they may have stamina but that is no way near comparison to experience or even being in tune with their own self.

 

This is very cliche with older man. They get with younger chicks because at 22 unless you are Vida Guerra, you have not lived the life of a 35-40yr old. I'm not talking about banging the HS football team. It's like saying your kids have the mentality and experience 20yrs advanced. Plain ridiculous!

 

On another note. This MM has flipped-flopped a bit too much by now. OP if you feel so deprived then do something about it. If your intregrity came with limitations, then that is all it wrote. Have a blast, turn it up a notch and move to affairyland. If you really are such a charmer and feel like you are entitled to more in life, then take the high road and get a divorce. Odds are that your W may desire a Jr. sausage as well.

 

Good luck sweetpea!

[Mimolicious]

Mimi! Mimi!! Ohh do my reading next!!! Since I am an older women do you see a young man in my future?? Other then my grandson whom I adore dearly!

Seriously you nailed that reading! Wait til the guy gets that bill along with his walking papers.

 

No one on the face of this earth can convince me that a 22 year young Lady is soo versed in Life experiences that she can match wits/wisdom with a 40 sum year old man. Married no less. Granted the gent doesnt seem to have much common sense which may be the catalyst that puts them on the same level. I can only imagine this whole scenario is a figment of this mans imagination anyways...

 

I stand by my original advice: Get a divorce. Stop the irrational thinking.

 

I predict MM's -OW BF is going to land at your doorstep.

and he's going to love you dearly because you're just that irresistable!

 

Yeah, he doesn't get it.

 

Maybe we are not giving this 22yr very attractive chick much credit. Maybe she is as bright as a swarovski chadelier just that the real adult in the situation is at her juvenile level. Maybe?Maybe?

 

I don't think this is fair to either ladies involved in this situation. Dude wants his cake and eat it too. Those who want everything, end with nothing.

[Gagirl]

Let me guess at how this is going to turn out. You will have a wonderful relationship with this girl until your wife finds out. Next, you immediately hit this girl with the NC rule and treat her like she was garbage and never mattered. This will mess this girl up so bad. She will have trouble having relationships because she will be afraid that when she falls in love again the next person will leave her just as harshly. She will be a mess probably for life. Her trust will always be broken. The wife will also be a mess because you will tell her that it was just a friendship that carried away and that this girl was crazy and would not take no for an answer so you just kind of gave in. But, the wife will forgive you because she doesn't want to give up her precious standard of living and will change until she knows that the OW is long gone and then back to way things were. Man are so greedy and only think about themselves. They could care less who they use and step on as long as their needs are met.

[Mimolicious]

Let me guess at how this is going to turn out. You will have a wonderful relationship with this girl until your wife finds out. Next, you immediately hit this girl with the NC rule and treat her like she was garbage and never mattered. This will mess this girl up so bad. She will have trouble having relationships because she will be afraid that when she falls in love again the next person will leave her just as harshly. She will be a mess probably for life. Her trust will always be broken. The wife will also be a mess because you will tell her that it was just a friendship that carried away and that this girl was crazy and would not take no for an answer so you just kind of gave in. But, the wife will forgive you because she doesn't want to give up her precious standard of living and will change until she knows that the OW is long gone and then back to way things were. Man are so greedy and only think about themselves. They could care less who they use and step on as long as their needs are met.

 

You got that right!!!!!!!!!!! (You stealing my fortune teller job?)

 

Poor 22yr old. She gets involved in this mess and she can kiss livelihood bye bye!

[Olivia1966]

I have one question -- when she can function sexually for you, do you make it a rewarding experience for her?

 

I don't want to hear, "she's really disappointed when she can't get me off, so she must find it rewarding." I don't want to hear, "she's never said she doesn't." And I certainly don't want to hear, "I get off, so of course it's rewarding for her -- she knows that she's alleviating my suffering."

 

Does. She. Enjoy. It?

 

If you don't know, ask.

 

If the answer is "no," then either man up and *make* it enjoyable for her or divorce her and free her to find someone who does make sex enjoyable for her. Even if that person is herself.

[Toodamnpragmatic]

What do people think then????? Sorry we know 80% of the posts are focused on her age, but if he said she was 30, would that change the thread??????

 

I had a post around 150 and the next 25 have all dealt with her age not his situation for the most part.....

[whichwayisup]

What do people think then????? Sorry we know 80% of the posts are focused on her age, but if he said she was 30, would that change the thread??????

 

I had a post around 150 and the next 25 have all dealt with her age not his situation for the most part.....

 

I am one who said age is not the issue at all. Nope it wouldn't matter if she was 30, 40, or 50! He is hot for another woman and that woman ain't his wife! That's not good.

[vsmini]

What do people think then????? Sorry we know 80% of the posts are focused on her age, but if he said she was 30, would that change the thread??????

 

I had a post around 150 and the next 25 have all dealt with her age not his situation for the most part.....

 

 

Yea but you know what? He also says sex isn't the only thing wrong with his wife and that's 80% of what he's focusing on. I think more like 90% of the people on here are calling him out on his unwillingness to "create drama" with his wife and most people know that's the main issue over a girls age. Besides - he's the one who keeps mentioning his young friend. Age is a factor for him too. I'm sure it makes it seem all the more fantasy-like.

[John Michael Kane]

Shut up! my dentures just fell off! NOT! Oh please, I am in my early 30's and I would hate to shack a 20 yr old. That's like going back to training wheels. Perhaps, they may have stamina but that is no way near comparison to experience or even being in tune with their own self.

 

Hey! Nothing wrong with us young bucks. If we're training wheels then why do women your age AND OLDER come to us? This is taking me back to when I had a "nice conversation" with a milf.

 

This is very cliche with older man. They get with younger chicks because at 22 unless you are Vida Guerra, you have not lived the life of a 35-40yr old. I'm not talking about banging the HS football team. It's like saying your kids have the mentality and experience 20yrs advanced. Plain ridiculous!

 

Ahh!! We young folks don't take all day like ya oldies do.LOL

 

On another note. This MM has flipped-flopped a bit too much by now. OP if you feel so deprived then do something about it. If your intregrity came with limitations, then that is all it wrote. Have a blast, turn it up a notch and move to affairyland. If you really are such a charmer and feel like you are entitled to more in life, then take the high road and get a divorce.

 

You know cheaters, they like to hang onto two branches instead of moving forward. Always living for the moment then put a bullet on it.

 

Odds are that your W may desire a Jr. sausage as well.

 

I thought you women always go for jumbo? Guess you gotta find the right size, yes?LOL