Fedup&givingup Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I DO believe in God, and yes...I am a Christian. That's all I have to say, no more no less. Link to post Share on other sites
wideawake Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker I agree with sweetbilly Ug...I'm certain the apocalypse is upon us now... (sorry for the lack of: logic, rational, common sense, good taste, etc...) Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Sweetbilly is a religious person, even though we agree on almost 100% of theology, our belief in God is (I'm pretty sure) common ground. Link to post Share on other sites
wideawake Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Word. It was a small attempt at humor on a sunny Friday morn. No dis to you or sweety. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 So, who created god? how did god come to exist? does god have parents? is god an energy source? my mother and husband are both christians. my mother has told me that she is so sad that i will go to hell after i die. I told her not to worry, i simply won't exist after i die and that is fine with me, but she believes differently. her belief hurts her and thats too bad, but it also comforts her because she believes she will go to heaven. that is good for her i guess. i find comfort other places when i need it and i am just as comforted as she is. my husband lives with some guilt and a belief that he will go to hell when he dies and he doesn't really care - he figures i'll be there with him! LOL for those who believe in a god -- more power to you. i'm happy for you that you have something in your life that gives you comfort and strength. most people don't try to push their beliefs off on others, but some people do and that is the biggestt turn-off towards organized religion. people like arabess, who speak gently and clearly about how she believes, are the biggest attraction toward religion and faith. she is not angry that others don't believe like her, she puts no one down, and she doesn't argue. there are several people who present their opinions that way and to me - THAT is faith. i'm not laughing at anyone, or putting anyone down for their beliefs - i know that my morals are species-rooted and not god-rooted. i don't attribute any human qualities to any diety. there is room for everyone though. i don't think any of us are wrong or right, because wrong or right depends on what each person believes and since we all believe differently ..... Link to post Share on other sites
sweetbilly Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Wow Dyer! I'm blown away by your comments. I thought you hated me. Thank you very much for those comments. You know Dyer, I think under different circumstances we could have been good friends. I agree with you Arabess, (and I wasn't talking down to you, I just wanted to know your feelings,I love ya almost as much as beer!) we do have a small God-like quality, but I feel this is why we have to display our faith to those who don't believe. Of course, I base this concept only on my interpretation of the scriptures. But, I feel if we don't, then we aren't acting in perfect love as we were commanded to do. And Dyer, even if that means we have to chastise (out of love). I don't think we can be open-minded when it comes to following God's desire. I do think the bible has certain demands that must be met; whether we like it or not. It's a hard thing to face the fact that we're all headed to hell. But without humility, we'll never find the answers we're all looking for. Isn't that the ultimate accomplishment and desire of man "To know the real truth" I just think that our love for each other is complete and reaches God-like proportions when we, even under duress form those people we're trying to help, seek better lives for those people who don't know, or can contemplate, the threat actually facing them. Not from other people, mind you, but from God himself. This is the reason why I feel that Jesus gave his life, and why I get so angry when people mock me by refusing to consider, with an open heart and mind, what I have to say. My concern isn't for myself but for others, otherwise I wouldn't even open my mouth. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sweetbilly And Dyer, even if that means we have to chastise (out of love). I don't think we can be open-minded when it comes to following God's desire. I do think the bible has certain demands that must be met; whether we like it or not. It's a hard thing to face the fact that we're all headed to hell. But without humility, we'll never find the answers we're all looking for. It's not an illegitimate belief to think that scriptural demands can be met in more than one way. You can make the claim that I'm going to hell for not believing the way you do, but I have asked God myself, and I'm not. This is one instance where I'm going to have to trust the direct word of God, as opposed to your personal interpretation of a transcribed, english-translated word of God. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetbilly Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dyer, once again you've misunderstood what I've really said. I did not say YOU were going to hell I said EVRYONE alive is headed to hell, and needs a real change of heart. Link to post Share on other sites
wideawake Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Well at least all of my friends will be there... Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sweetbilly Dyer, once again you've misunderstood what I've really said. I did not say YOU were going to hell I said EVRYONE alive is headed to hell, and needs a real change of heart. I'm livng, aren't I? Link to post Share on other sites
Arabess Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Originally posted by sweetbilly I agree with you Arabess, (and I wasn't talking down to you, I just wanted to know your feelings,I. Like I said.....I believe Christians were given the dunamis power to BE a witness in their life....rather than DO witnessing. It leaves the responsibility of portraying a lifestyle someone may actually WANT rather than one which is crammed down their throats. Unless someone asked me my opinion, I would never say anything. If I didn't represent God enough for someone to 'wonder' what I have that is keeping me above the norm...than what do I have to offer except words??? NOTHING! Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Arabess, beautifully put, I agree 100% Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurtingandconfused Posted April 18, 2004 Author Share Posted April 18, 2004 I believe Christians OMG I'm drunk but i didnt think that i was that drunk...I thought it said christmas.... geez I had to reread it cuz the sentence didnt make any sense Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Corinthians 4:20- "For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power" Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 My new slogan: "Religion and Politics takes the 'sapiens' out of 'Homo sapiens' " Link to post Share on other sites
miekoveli Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Religion fashizle. Want to belief.. more power to you.. dont want to belife...aslo more power to you. The button line is. Belief if you want. YEs there is a god. a allmighty one. I do belief in GOD. GOD IS REAL. what i dont belief is Religion. Religion was made by Mens. Mens are evil!!!. GOD is HOLY. GOD alwast existed. FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME. To the end. GOD Is Alfa and the Omega. PERIOD. what else.. ummm also God sent his only son..."first there was a word, the word was with god, the word was god, the world dwell to flesh." To pay for our sin... so we all can be save. So if you say with your mouth that YOur lord is Jesus Christ, and believe from the heart that he was raised three days later. YOU'lLL BE SAVEE!!... WEll thats my belief... p.s sorry for my typing! to lazy for corrections. Link to post Share on other sites
Papillon Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 miekoveli, I hear and understand what you are saying, but I would like to point out a contradiction you are making. You are saying that God is an absolute, and that "religion" itself is a manmade trapping made to contain that absolute? I can more than accept that line of reasoning. The contradiction is when you start saying things like "Jesus Christ is your saviour", and the concept of a Father and Son deity, and so on. That's all dogma. Just the name "Jesus Christ", is in itself an artifical, religious, dogmatic trapping. Can you read the name "Jesus Christ" in the fluttering of a butterfly? No, you cannot, it's artificial. Your are rejecting the concept of a manmade religion, but at the same time you are embracing its details.... Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 That's all dogma. Just the name "Jesus Christ", is in itself an artifical, religious, dogmatic trapping. So says you. Jesus, an actual historical figure, is believed by many to be the son of God. You can reject institutions of faith, and still embrace basic religious teachings. He said it himself, God's the alpha and the omega--a rejection of contemporary religious institutions in no way neccesarily equates with no subscription to their teachings. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker So says you. Jesus, an actual historical figure, is believed by many to be the son of God. You can reject institutions of faith, and still embrace basic religious teachings. He said it himself, God's the alpha and the omega--a rejection of contemporary religious institutions in no way neccesarily equates with no subscription to their teachings. Jesus CHRIST -- not just Jesus. I see where Papillon is going. I'm still giggling over "Mens are evil" Link to post Share on other sites
friendforyou Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 absolutely, positively! "thou shall not test your lord thy GOD" GOD is real. Just look around you, there is evidence every day. What about appearances of the Virgin Mary? How would you explain that? Prayers have been answered, ask people. Ask people who go to church, or even thoughs that don't. GOD is real. And you can come to him at anytime. JESUS taught us that. GOD BLESS[color=blue][/color] Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I read C.S. Lewis' 'Mere Christianity' and I've believed in God ever since. That book made sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
krbshappy71 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I believe in God because He wont leave me alone. No teachings in the household growing up, sort of an Atheist environment actually. But He wouldn't leave me alone so now I pester Him back. Link to post Share on other sites
wonderland Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Actually there is a God....A god who cares for his own kind....and you know what his kind are when you walk the earth.....they are the ones who are better than the rest of thworld.....the stalkers ....the hackers....the users...the ones who take away a person rights.....i guess that is why people don't believe in him....cuae of the real christains that walk with him....god is only for the people who are better than the rest of us....and hey....he even blesses them righ away and make them wait and suffer likethe rest Link to post Share on other sites
shortbus74 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I really do not care if you are christian, muslim, jewish (hey like me!!) atheist... as long as you believe in something... Live a good life and treat people kindly and you will go far in life! Link to post Share on other sites
Micheal Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 its better to have no faith because out of hopelessness comes power and determination and no need for a god muhahaha and for the masses they are like bugs,nonames who just take and take not even the ground they walk on.but its kool theyll be gone in a hundred years,die a**h***s die,IF we didnt die would we even care if theres a god???? Link to post Share on other sites
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