WTF? What makes me sick about all these stupid porn discussions

[UCFKevin]

I think I'm finally starting to understand all of this. Men look at porn to get their jollies... nothing more. His gf or wife can do the exact same thing... she can do more to excite him. Afterall, how much repetition can one actually take. Porn is really all the same. Personally, I dont really find porn all the exciting. I mean sure MOST porn stars are somewhat attractive- no one would look at them if they werent. But MOST porn stars are fake. What's the point in competing with something that doesnt really exist. Your man loves you for you. Your looks are part of who you are... and as hard as it is to accept sometimes... he loves the way you look. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with not looking like Carmen Electra. If people aren't able to accept you for who you are, then they are not worth you time. THE END!

 

 

DING DING DING DING DING!

 

We have a winner!

[moimeme]

Kevin, you beat me to it! So maybe this thread wasn't futile after all!

[gaia]

I'm sure that's true for some, Dyer. Others are addicts, no question. They meet all the psychological and social criteria. There is no one size fits all explanation, in my view.

 

No more pornicky porno porn posts for me tonight

[yes]

a friend of mine sent me a great e-card recently... it goes something like this:

 

"for so long, we tried to be perfect in every way"

... (yada yada) ...

"and now we've come to realize that we're better than perfect, because we're REAL"

"go on and celebrate the real woman that you are!"

 

so, girlz... forget abt porn stars... celebrate yourselves!!

 

-yes

[meanon]

f***!!!! gaia's last post was mine!!! Sorry all, we do not have many computers in England and have to share.

[moimeme]

Others are addicts, no question. They meet all the psychological and social criteria. There is no one size fits all explanation, in my view.

 

Oh sure, and like I said to Meanon, that's a whole other issue.

 

Sorry all, we do not have many computers in England and have to share

 

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by gaia

I'm sure that's true for some, Dyer. Others are addicts, no question. They meet all the psychological and social criteria. There is no one size fits all explanation, in my view.

 

No more pornicky porno porn posts for me tonight

 

But that's a whole seperate issue, and I'm not sure we're qualified, or even have enough of the story, to determine whether they are addicts, or just men.

[zarathustra]

If it wasn't porn, it would be football

 

Is that so? I'm racking my brain to remember how many "my hubby loves football, not me" threads, I've seen here.

 

I know. Zero. Nada. None.

 

Jerking off to Jenna ain't the same as watching the Jets.

[wonderwhy]

Originally posted by zarathustra

 

 

Jerking off to Jenna ain't the same as watching the Jets.

 

What the hell is that supposed to mean??? But you're right, it isn't... if I'm understanding what you're saying.

[Fedup&givingup]

What Zara is saying is that when women rant about their husband(s) watching football, it's not even remotely the same as when they get off from watching some woman tantalizing him via pornography.

[ThisGirlNameKD]

This is crazy. Moimeme says that looking is not loving. Maybe not, but liking can be as bad. My question to you is when was the last time you derived pleasure from staring or watching something that you didn't find appealing? Obviously if you're watching something over and over again it's because you LIKE it or derive some pleasure from seeing it. So women have issues with men deriving pleasure from watching other women sexually. Nobody said you couldn't find someone attractive. There's a difference between being physically attractive to someone and being SEXUALLY attractive to them.

 

 

And once again, how many men watch porn without getting aroused? That's what porn is design for. Have you ever watched a makings of a porn video? There are certain things the director wants the actors to do to illicit a reaction from the audience. Sex is something you do, not watch. When you watch, it motivates you to do.

[wonderwhy]

ahaha... whoops... I totally misinterpreted that... sorry.

[ThisGirlNameKD]

How many men here watched a porn video and didn't get aroused from it?

How many men here watched a porn video, got up from and went straight to sleep without a hard on?

[yes]

perhaps i'm missing smth, but wdn't all problems be solved if the men were discreet enough abt their viewing of porn?

 

-yes

[wonderwhy]

Why, if I might be so bold to ask, would being discreet have any effect on whether a woman becomes overcome with jealousy and a feeling of not being good enough when her man watches porn. Doesn't that only mask something that is still there... it solves nothing; it creates a feeling of distrust.

[Fedup&givingup]

Maybe not, but liking can be as bad. My question to you is when was the last time you derived pleasure from staring or watching something that you didn't find appealing? Obviously if you're watching something over and over again it's because you LIKE it or derive some pleasure from seeing it. So women have issues with men deriving pleasure from watching other women sexually.

 

I think you just summed this up for me, and you did it quite nicely. I DO have a problem with a man getting sexual satisfaction from watching another woman, or where the woman is arousing him. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

[Fedup&givingup]

Originally posted by yes

perhaps i'm missing smth, but wdn't all problems be solved if the men were discreet enough abt their viewing of porn?

 

-yes

 

That only makes it dishonest and creates another problem.

[moimeme]

How many men here watched a porn video and didn't get aroused from it?

How many men here watched a porn video, got up from and went straight to sleep without a hard on?

 

Your question is bogus. 'WHY do men get aroused when they look at it' is the question you should be asking and the answer you should listen to.

 

Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.

[yes]

That only makes it dishonest and creates another problem.

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Not at all. I didn't say LIE and say "i don't look at porn" if she asks. But keep it discrete so that she doesn't notice.

 

-yes

[ThisGirlNameKD]

ANYWAY, the question I SHOULD be asking is what do you guys find entertaining about porn?

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by ThisGirlNameKD

ANYWAY, the question I SHOULD be asking is what do you guys find entertaining about porn?

THEY. ARE. HAVING. SEX. -_-

[Fedup&givingup]

Originally posted by moimeme

How many men here watched a porn video and didn't get aroused from it?

How many men here watched a porn video, got up from and went straight to sleep without a hard on?

 

Your question is bogus. 'WHY do men get aroused when they look at it' is the question you should be asking and the answer you should listen to.

 

Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.

 

I know WHY men look at it. That's a no brainer. The fact is that for me, I find it destructive to a relationship, because the man is reliant upon something ELSE, which is also someone else to bring sexual satisfaction.

[zarathustra]

I know WHY men look at it. That's a no brainer. The fact is that for me, I find it destructive to a relationship, because the man is reliant upon something ELSE, which is also someone else to bring sexual satisfaction.

 

 

Well stated, fedup!

[moimeme]

So, Jester. You never ever look at porn, huh?

[jenk]

There are some people in the world who are very secure with themselves, and still find porn wrong. The people who are not trying to live a moral life, always want company. They want others to follow along so that they don't feel so bad about what they are doing. They can justify their behaviors easier that way.

 

Personally I don't keep company with this sort of person, be it man or women. There are many decent men in the world who do not use porn, so when people say all men do, that is absolutely wrong. All men don't!