Arnold and Maria

[Mimolicious]

Your scenario could be right, but it could have also have been just as easily used against her. She may have been poor, uneducated and not wise in the way that men of power and money use others for their pleasure and he may have taken advantage of her ignorance.

 

It could go either way........and I just think it's BS to project all this stuff on her when we know so little.

 

Arnie......is the PROVEN asshat here, that is the ONE thing we know for sure.

 

 

Yep. Where is this OW from? Is she Mexican? (no offense) but if she is, then I can see from a cultural stance where she may also have been a victim of this dramz too.

[skywriter]

Lucky for you that you live in your safe little world and have never been employed as a cleaner in someones house. Its perfectly possible she feared for her job and if she told who wold believe her? Just like you are trashing her now who would believe Arnie wanted her when he had Maria. And have you seen what is going on with Strauss Kahn and the maid in the hotel?

 

Things arent always as simple as they seem to be. They may be but unless you are a personal friend of Maria and Arnie or the OW, then you probably dont know all the facts. Everyone always trashes the woman when so often men in power are the ones who abuse it. Like Strauss Kahn who is trying to blame that poor maid.

 

 

Absolutely correct in what you say JJ33, thank you. All these assumptions and no facts. There are plenty of jobs? What?

 

Nobody can say anything for a fact, unless they've walked in this womans shoes.

[stillafool]

Bull. There are plenty of jobs for maids in Hollywood. If she wanted to leave, she could have landed another job easily.

 

Of course, that other job wouldn't have paid for her kid for life though, or given her a hefty severance.

 

 

Also, she could have told her "then" husband what happened (assuming it was rape) and they could have handled it together. This woman does not appear to be young and naive. If she was raped why didn't she do what the the Strauss maid did and tell the police? The Schwarzenegger maid could have told Maria that Arnold was being inappropriate.

[skywriter]

Also, she could have told her "then" husband what happened (assuming it was rape) and they could have handled it together. This woman does not appear to be young and naive. If she was raped why didn't she do what the the Strauss maid did and tell the police? The Schwarzenegger maid could have told Maria that Arnold was being inappropriate.

 

 

This is true stillafool, she could've told. There again nobody knows how that would've went across though.

 

I've done alot of odd jobs in my life, particularly trying to raise two children alone. I worked as a housekeeper as a sidejob for some wealthier people once. The husband was a real "horndog"! Having had a chance to get to know his W. There is no way in hell I would've ever said anything to that woman about her H.

 

It would've come back to bite me on the butt! I would've gotten the boot from the job and I needed the money badly at that time. I don't work for them anymore, thank goodness.

 

His W never would've believed me though. I had a helper with me because their house was huge. He touched her behind! He made suggestive remarks to us. We just tried to avoid him and keep conversations minimal.

[woinlove]

Apparently she was pregnant at the same time that Maria was pregnant with their 14yr old.... according to one media outlet.

 

This is sad but it happens more often than it is published. There was another thread about it on the infidelity forum, yesterday.

 

They claim from the birth certificates the births were only 5 days apart. If true, it's even worse for the half-siblings to have this stuff surrounding their birthdays.

[whichwayisup]

The reports say she didn't inform Schwarzanegger that her son was his until the boy was a toddler. Schwarzenegger is said to have contributed financially to the boy's upbringing before eventually confessing his affair to his wife in January.

 

Radaronline.com reports that Baena did not retire in January but in fact worked for the family until four weeks ago. She allegedly threatened to go public with details of the affair when Schwarzenegger fired her in a bid to save his marriage to Shriver.

 

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110518/mother-of-schwarzenegger-love-child-110518/20110518/?hub=OttawaHome

 

Interesting.

[jj33]

This is true stillafool, she could've told. There again nobody knows how that would've went across though.

 

I've done alot of odd jobs in my life, particularly trying to raise two children alone. I worked as a housekeeper as a sidejob for some wealthier people once. The husband was a real "horndog"! Having had a chance to get to know his W. There is no way in hell I would've ever said anything to that woman about her H.

 

It would've come back to bite me on the butt! I would've gotten the boot from the job and I needed the money badly at that time. I don't work for them anymore, thank goodness.

 

His W never would've believed me though. I had a helper with me because their house was huge. He touched her behind! He made suggestive remarks to us. We just tried to avoid him and keep conversations minimal.

 

Thank you Skywriter. You are so lovely and brave to post as someone who has walked in those shoes and actually knows what she is talking about.

 

Unless someone has been in that position or tried to prosecute sexual assault its really easy to sit there on your high horses and say oh yeah I would do that but sexual assault against a famous person sheesh, its not easy. And who knows what her H knows. Who knows what happened.

 

I highly doubt any of the people posting who are trashing the OW are close enough to the situation or have ever been in a sufficiently similar situatoin that they have factual basis on which to trash this OW other than transference because all OWs are bad in their minds. Did y'all cry over Princess Diana's death too? Its called transference people (like BB said - hi BB!!)

[stillafool]

Yes very interesting indeed. This woman is something else!

[whichwayisup]

If that is true, she was going to go public, then I'm sure eventually her side of things will come out..In a talk show or in print/online.

 

With the info given so far, it seems too that she's living quite a nice life since retirement, a pool, big house, with her 3 kids..

[stillafool]

Yes and of course she will get a million dollar "tell all" book deal.

[Mimolicious]

Yes and of course she will get a million dollar "tell all" book deal.

 

 

That honestly, how many fools (no pun intended ) are willing to pay $14.99 for? For that read Jessy Jame's garbage. At least, it may be of chains and whips, leather & lace!

 

Unreal!

 

I need to get pen & notebook then! (where is my publisher's number? fml!)

[Heather1]

Yes and of course she will get a million dollar "tell all" book deal.

 

Still not worth it to have to have slept with Arnold..ewwww

[greengoddess]

Lucky for you that you live in your safe little world and have never been employed as a cleaner in someones house. Its perfectly possible she feared for her job and if she told who wold believe her? Just like you are trashing her now who would believe Arnie wanted her when he had Maria. And have you seen what is going on with Strauss Kahn and the maid in the hotel?

 

Things arent always as simple as they seem to be. They may be but unless you are a personal friend of Maria and Arnie or the OW, then you probably dont know all the facts. Everyone always trashes the woman when so often men in power are the ones who abuse it. Like Strauss Kahn who is trying to blame that poor maid.

 

 

LOL are you serious? HELLOOOOO she has his child. What is there to not believe. LOL YES I am trashing her. What slime to continue working for maria IN HER FAMILY HOME while having her husbands child. HOW can you defend that. OMG people really are depraved.

[greengoddess]

Since we have heard NOTHING about this OW, I don't think it's fair for you to project on this woman what you feel about OW. You nor I simply don't have enough information to put her down like that at this point in time.

 

This was a man who had power and money and well it's it is a fact that it corrupts and we all know Arnold is corrupt since this ain't his first rodeo in regards to other women. (Remember the sexual harassment allegations?)

 

So until we hear more about her......it's not fair to beat her down.

 

 

OMG was she raped or something. Geeez it's not fair to beat her down. She continued working in the woman's home for a decade after having a baby with her husband. THAT IS DISTURBED however you paint it.

[Emme]

Thank goodness someone made this post. I wanted to know how OW do it, conceive a child with MM. I know we had a poster who had a child and I felt so sorry for her situation. It must be hard emotionally forget physically.

 

I feel so much pain for the child that is now going to be labeled. I know when my dad cheated and had a outside child it was hard. Plus the mother was a close family friend. We got through it. I still have some hate but I have a great sister out of it. I'm not a only child.

 

As far as old hot and sexy mami (going by the picture I saw) .. Oh she got some nerve. She basically got paid to have sex with Maria's husband. 20 years this woman was with this family. She knows all the secrets and watched the kids grow. At the end of the day she should have known better. I don't understand how people sh*t where they eat. Look someone in the face day in and day out knowingly betraying them. I'm no goody too shoes but I do have my limits.

 

Arnold is not going to live this down. I know Edwards tried to hide his love child. But Arnold did it for 10 successful years. How and who helped is the question??? That women was married and just divorced in 2008.. So her husband thought that was his child. What's worse is I've heard the child looks like Arnold.

 

Maria had that child playing with her children and she didn't even know.... Or did she is the question. All I know is it happened to my mother right under her nose. The only way she found out was because she had a dream. She told everyone and they all thought she was crazy. Sure enough BAM! she was pregnant. So either way I feel for Maria if she did or didn't know.

 

At the end of the day life is not perfect. Everyone has faults. Hopefully they can work through all this for the children's benefit. He's not the first or will be the last. God bless them... they will need it.

 

Lord I can just see the comedians at work doing skits about Arnold. It's just sad!

[greengoddess]

This is true stillafool, she could've told. There again nobody knows how that would've went across though.

 

I've done alot of odd jobs in my life, particularly trying to raise two children alone. I worked as a housekeeper as a sidejob for some wealthier people once. The husband was a real "horndog"! Having had a chance to get to know his W. There is no way in hell I would've ever said anything to that woman about her H.

 

It would've come back to bite me on the butt! I would've gotten the boot from the job and I needed the money badly at that time. I don't work for them anymore, thank goodness.

 

His W never would've believed me though. I had a helper with me because their house was huge. He touched her behind! He made suggestive remarks to us. We just tried to avoid him and keep conversations minimal.

 

Exactly, you did the right thing. You did not sleep with your employer.

[greengoddess]

It is fascinating to me that you are building a sexual assault case against arnie to make the ow innocent. Fascinating, just fascinating. It's always someone elses fault. lol

[Mimolicious]

OMG was she raped or something. Geeez it's not fair to beat her down. She continued working in the woman's home for a decade after having a baby with her husband. THAT IS DISTURBED however you paint it.

 

That was RAPE. By now, a whole different ball game. Unless this housekeeper starts calling it rape anytime soon, how do these 2 cases relate again?

 

Lord knows what the housekeeper was really going through. I am interested to know her nationality. Trust me, it will play a huge factor in the way she acted, if she is from central, south america. Believe that.

[Emme]

Ok... can we all agree we know nothing.... Seriously we don't. We can't judge. For now until there is a press release ......... WE KNOW THERE IS A LOVE CHILD.... WE KNOW THERE WAS AN AFFAIR. That's all we know.

[greengoddess]

it is hysterical the stereotyping some have done of this maid. She can't possibly be a deceptive ow. Now she is some poor maid fearing for her job and omg she is probably an illegal immigrant too the poor naive thing.

 

How about she is just a snake and her and arnie are disgusting. Hey they deserve each other. Maybe this ow will get her prince charming!!

[Mimolicious]

it is hysterical the stereotyping some have done of this maid. She can't possibly be a deceptive ow. Now she is some poor maid fearing for her job and omg she is probably an illegal immigrant too the poor naive thing.

 

How about she is just a snake and her and arnie are disgusting. Hey they deserve each other. Maybe this ow will get her prince charming!!

 

 

But you are doing just the same by saying "She is just" no? You wouldn't be able to know who she really is or can you?

 

The only person that mentioned the immigrant status was me, and no it is not naive or poor her. It's a whole different dynamic, that unless you have ever lived, or know the culture of other countries (like other posters may) you wouldn't be able to know. Can you respect that?

[jthorne]

I don't mean to sound like this is a "stereotype" but maybe legal status also played a part here. If this housekeeper was not an illegal immigrant, a greencard is a huge motive! Apparently she met her 20yrs of employment to get her pension. He met his political terms and agenda. It was beneficial for the both of them to keep mum and they both accomplished their goals. BRAVO! But who knows... I want to say, this is far from over.

Highly doubt she was illegal. That would have been outed in his gubernatorial campaign, a la Meg Whitman.

[Rose1977]

Re: my statement that I feel bad for the OW in this case, I should state that I feel bad as of now NOT knowing any of the circumstances. I feel bad for the hard things she is going to have to explain for her child. And honestly, I feel bad for her if she carried on for all these years believing he would leave Maria for her (which we have no way to know whether she was thinking). It doesn't make anything he or she did RIGHT, but I still don't like to see people hurting.

 

The only person I do NOT feel bad for is Arnold. I feel terrible for his children and Maria, I cannot imagine the embarassment and saddness they are feeling now.

 

My thoughts on having sympathy for the OW may change as more information about her comes out.

[Mimolicious]

Highly doubt she was illegal. That would have been outed in his gubernatorial campaign, a la Meg Whitman.

 

Not if by that point she was already legal. This lady was working for him prior to him really sitting in office, in 2003. I mean, if you want to count his the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, term :lmao: and being Red Cross Embassador. Thorough background checks as you can tell from previous scandals (B. Kerik, Commissioner of NY etc) go unpresedented until nominated to a higher rank or in his case, elected for governor. Guiliani sat in office for years and had illegal help at his home in country home. WHO KNEW?!

[Rose1977]

She did. 20 years was their minimum requirement for retirement and generous severance. He also signed a separate agreement to take care of his child for life. Rumors today are stating she was paid to also "keep quiet."

 

Today it was announced that his oldest son with Maria, a 17-yr old., dropped his last name of 'Schwarzenneger,' and is going by 'Shriver.'

 

How sad and angry that child must be. And the fallout is just beginning.

 

 

I hadn't heard this. Guess that says it all about what he's feeling.