Would you date a web cam model?

[Jynxx]

It is morally wrong to watch porn

 

The Middle Ages called, they want their morals back.

 

 

Seriously, how the hell can anything that doesn't directly or indirectly hurt another person be morally wrong? A persons freedom only ends where another persons freedom begins.

 

Just to avoid going full circle by you claiming watching porn hurts the performers, do you think watching drawings and animated porn (without live modelling done for the creator) is morally wrong?

[perfectlyunique]

That's some kind of justification for it?

 

I'm sorry but only messed up, dysfunctional young women/women do this sort of thing to earn a living. And any partner of a woman who does this, who supports her doing it, is a sick phocker who is all about the money and not anything about loving or respecting his girlfriend and her integrity.

 

so because i did it once in my life it means there something wrong with me? what aload of crap im perfectly normal thanks very much. i did it to get by nowt wrong with it. i assume you dont watch porn either because all the women in it must be dysfunctional

[perfectlyunique]

That's some kind of justification for it?

 

I'm sorry but only messed up, dysfunctional young women/women do this sort of thing to earn a living. And any partner of a woman who does this, who supports her doing it, is a sick phocker who is all about the money and not anything about loving or respecting his girlfriend and her integrity.

 

so because i did it once in my life it means there something wrong with me? what aload of crap im perfectly normal thanks very much. i did it to get by nowt wrong with it. i assume you dont watch porn either because all the women in it must be dysfunctional

[Jazzari]

That's some kind of justification for it?

 

I'm sorry but only messed up, dysfunctional young women/women do this sort of thing to earn a living. And any partner of a woman who does this, who supports her doing it, is a sick phocker who is all about the money and not anything about loving or respecting his girlfriend and her integrity.

And just to take this another step....

 

 

What about pornographic literature? Even romance novels get pretty darn hot nowadays. Do you read those? Where is your line?

 

 

Are those that write them also considered scum of the earth?

[ladyinlimbo]

And just to take this another step....

 

 

What about pornographic literature? Even romance novels get pretty darn hot nowadays. Do you read those? Where is your line?

 

 

Are those that write them also considered scum of the earth?

 

I don't see how anyone could compare pornographic or erotic literature to porn/web cam, etc. Totally comparing apples to oranges. There's no "real person" involved in the 'end product' of this kind of literature, there's nobody being exploited....just words on a screen.

[ladyinlimbo]

so because i did it once in my life it means there something wrong with me? what aload of crap im perfectly normal thanks very much. i did it to get by nowt wrong with it. i assume you dont watch porn either because all the women in it must be dysfunctional

 

Sorry but stable women with healthy self-esteem and sense of integrity/self-respect and self-worth.... don't end up resorting to webcamming to get themselves out of a financial pickle. There are always other options though I guess sometime some people look for the 'easy way' to make money instead of something that might actually be hard work or might take them longer to recoup. Webcamming, to me, is not really any different than prostitution because the end result is that you're using your body to get some stranger 'off' and you're being paid for it. A cyber-hooker, of sorts. The fact that you're so defensive about what you did tells me that you're not as 'cool' with it as you now claim. I recall a post of yours in this thread, back in the beginning of it, where you didn't have very positive things to say about having done it....how it also made you hate / think very negatively of men.

 

Sorry but selling your body or soul all for a buck and then justifying it....couldn't be a more fitting example of dysfunctional. But whatever flops your mop, I guess.

 

ETA: here is your response, #6 in this thread......where you don't speak all that glowingly about having done this (though now you do?):

 

to be honest i worked as one for about a year a few years ago. you do make a fair bit of money but i wouldnt really suggest doing it to anyone it made me feel crap about myself and i started to hate men and think they was after only one thing. they have no respect for you whatsoever. if you do do it i think you have to be a failry strong person. i was with my bf at the time, he knew about it. we was desperate for the money. i wasnt sleeping with anyone else. so no its not prostitution i was 100% in love with my bf and never cheated and never would

 

What kind of boyfriend would be 'okay' with his GF having to resort to this all for money? I'm sure he enjoyed the fruits of your labour; let me guess, you lived together and he enjoyed the money too? Can we say PIMP?

Edited May 21, 2011 by ladyinlimbo

[perfectlyunique]

Sorry but stable women with healthy self-esteem and sense of integrity/self-respect and self-worth.... don't end up resorting to webcamming to get themselves out of a financial pickle. There are always other options though I guess sometime some people look for the 'easy way' to make money instead of something that might actually be hard work or might take them longer to recoup. Webcamming, to me, is not really any different than prostitution because the end result is that you're using your body to get some stranger 'off' and you're being paid for it. A cyber-hooker, of sorts. The fact that you're so defensive about what you did tells me that you're not as 'cool' with it as you now claim. I recall a post of yours in this thread, back in the beginning of it, where you didn't have very positive things to say about having done it....how it also made you hate / think very negatively of men.

 

Sorry but selling your body or soul all for a buck and then justifying it....couldn't be a more fitting example of dysfunctional. But whatever flops your mop, I guess.

 

ETA: here is your response, #6 in this thread......where you don't speak all that glowingly about having done this (though now you do?):

 

 

 

What kind of boyfriend would be 'okay' with his GF having to resort to this all for money? I'm sure he enjoyed the fruits of your labour; let me guess, you lived together and he enjoyed the money too? Can we say PIMP?

 

think what you like everyones entitled to there own opinion but i did what i did because we needed the money and i couldnt get a job. im not going to be ashamed of myself because you think i should be.

[Jazzari]

I don't see how anyone could compare pornographic or erotic literature to porn/web cam, etc. Totally comparing apples to oranges. There's no "real person" involved in the 'end product' of this kind of literature, there's nobody being exploited....just words on a screen.

The person doing the writing is a real person and is performing for the reader in written form.

 

Take it a step farther - how about phone sex?

 

So we have:

 

Writing

Verbal

Visual

Physical

 

In each case, a real person is gratifying someone's sexual needs for money. There are obvious levels but I'm wondering what your line is. Do you think it's ok to gratify someone's sexual needs for money in any form?

[Jazzari]

What kind of boyfriend would be 'okay' with his GF having to resort to this all for money? I'm sure he enjoyed the fruits of your labour; let me guess, you lived together and he enjoyed the money too? Can we say PIMP?

Can you get any more ridiculous? And these personal attacks are way out of line.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp

 

At the very least, educate yourself on the definition of pimp. Your ignorance is appalling.

[Yamaha]

Would you date a webcam model? Or is that no different from prostitution?

 

No. Not the same as prostitution but I wouldn't want the woman I loved/cared about looked at by any and everyone with a few bucks.

Just my 2 cents.....

[perfectlyunique]

whatever anyone thinks i did what i did because .. there was no other options..everyone keeps saying there was..if so what was they because at the time i didnt see any...so what i went on a webcam for men. im still a good person, still a good mum and friend.

 

most people on here would definatley have viewed porn at some point in there life, its basically the same but thats ok is it? they all act and they do it to earn money.

[Ross MwcFan]

think what you like everyones entitled to there own opinion but i did what i did because we needed the money and i couldnt get a job. im not going to be ashamed of myself because you think i should be.

 

Well said.

[Ross MwcFan]

Sorry but stable women with healthy self-esteem and sense of integrity/self-respect and self-worth.... don't end up resorting to webcamming to get themselves out of a financial pickle. There are always other options though I guess sometime some people look for the 'easy way' to make money instead of something that might actually be hard work or might take them longer to recoup. Webcamming, to me, is not really any different than prostitution because the end result is that you're using your body to get some stranger 'off' and you're being paid for it. A cyber-hooker, of sorts. The fact that you're so defensive about what you did tells me that you're not as 'cool' with it as you now claim. I recall a post of yours in this thread, back in the beginning of it, where you didn't have very positive things to say about having done it....how it also made you hate / think very negatively of men.

 

Sorry but selling your body or soul all for a buck and then justifying it....couldn't be a more fitting example of dysfunctional. But whatever flops your mop, I guess.

 

ETA: here is your response, #6 in this thread......where you don't speak all that glowingly about having done this (though now you do?):

 

 

 

What kind of boyfriend would be 'okay' with his GF having to resort to this all for money? I'm sure he enjoyed the fruits of your labour; let me guess, you lived together and he enjoyed the money too? Can we say PIMP?

 

Look at you taking the moral highground and talking down to her. Does doing this make you feel better about yourself?

 

If anyone lacks self esteem it seems more like it'd be you.

Edited May 21, 2011 by Ross MwcFan

[lovingADove]

Very interesting discussions ...

The free market economy ... that's what matters. If you have customers for your products, more grease to your elbow.

 

What people to do for a living is their choice and their choice only. Some can chose to be on welfare all their lives (if they can), and other can chose to lie on TV/Radio everyday, as long as they have followers ... who are willing to pay to listen to them ...

That's the American way ...

 

People trying to impose their moral views on others feels more like the Taliban to me.

[perfectlyunique]

i earned money whatever ..i still tried! is that better than laying down and letting sum1 take a house off me i dont think so. so what i was showing my body to people. i earned money. my son will never know . everyone on here acts like there so innocent ..ha.. like ive said before those without sin cast the first stone!

[perfectlyunique]

You can't know that.

 

how will he it cant be recorded. even if somebody did that would make them an evil person. my son means the world to me..anyone that does do that would only be doing it because they want to cause upset and i have no time for people like that

[Jazzari]

This place has been around for 14 years and you have posted intimate details of your life here. Expect it will be here in another 14. If he or someone else comes across this place and puts the pieces together then he might come to find out. Also if I remember correctly you aren't the only one who knows of your past activities who is in your life currently. It could slip or be revealed as apart of some full disclosure. Some day you might even want to tell him because the lie of omission will weigh too heavily on you. Someone you have yet to meet or one who knows you now might have been in the audience. This is another way it could come back to haunt you. You could confide in someone in the future like a yet to be ex and out of hurt over a breakup he could tell your son. Also webcam streams can be recorded. There are quite a few pornographic recordings shared on the net.

 

There are so many possibilities.

You forgot aliens. Aliens could transport her son into their spaceship and tell all.

[Jazzari]

None of those were unreasonable scenarios. She needs to open her eyes to the very real possibility he will find out. Asinine jokes don't help.

I thought they were pretty darn remote.

 

As for the joke - you need to lighten up and laugh once in awhile. Life can't be all doom and gloom.

[ladyinlimbo]

The person doing the writing is a real person and is performing for the reader in written form.

 

 

Oh come on, that's a total stretch and again it's comparing apples to oranges. There is absolutely no comparison to someone who writes dirty made up stories vs someone who shows themself for all the public/world to see online.

[Jazzari]

Oh come on, that's a total stretch and again it's comparing apples to oranges. There is absolutely no comparison to someone who writes dirty made up stories vs someone who shows themself for all the public/world to see online.

In my post I said:

 

"In each case, a real person is gratifying someone's sexual needs for money. There are obvious levels but I'm wondering what your line is. Do you think it's ok to gratify someone's sexual needs for money in any form?"

[ladyinlimbo]

Look at you taking the moral highground and talking down to her. Does doing this make you feel better about yourself?

 

If anyone lacks self esteem it seems more like it'd be you.

 

With all due respect Ross, "2 cents" from someone who admits he'd have no issue with his sister feeling she had no choice but to do porn or be on a webcam, doesn't mean all that much. Most siblings would want more for their female siblings, would not even be able to imagine them feeling so desperate that that was their only option in life. Appalling.

 

And to perfectlyunique......it's funny that you defend yourself now but you were very clear in your previous post, to warn what a negative experience this was for you:

 

"to be honest i worked as one for about a year a few years ago. you do make a fair bit of money but i wouldnt really suggest doing it to anyone it made me feel crap about myself and i started to hate men and think they was after only one thing. they have no respect for you whatsoever. if you do do it i think you have to be a failry strong person. i was with my bf at the time, he knew about it. we was desperate for the money. i wasnt sleeping with anyone else. so no its not prostitution i was 100% in love with my bf and never cheated and never would "

 

And sorry, I don't buy the "I couldn't find any other job" story. With the economy the way it's been over the past 5 years, there have been countless people out of work or unable to find work.......but the vast majority find other alternatives to support themselves and their children. What do you think hundreds of thousands of men have done? Turn to a webcam? What about hundreds of thousands of middle-aged women who obviously are in no physical position (or shape) to do such a thing? Somehow they figured out another way. And while your BF was just fine with you getting other men off, what was he doing to bring in an income? Was her busting his hump to find a job if he didn't have one? Work an extra job or 2 if he had to? I'm sorry but a man who really respects and loves his girlfriend would work 3 jobs if he had to, to prevent his GF from having to turn cyber-tricks. What do you think people did back in the day when webcamming didn't even exist? Obviously people didn't just crawl into a hole and die; they figured out a respectable way to make money.

 

Where there's a will there's a way but it's easy to take the easy way out for some, then try to justify it later. You have no idea that your stuff wasn't recorded....only for your son and/or his friends to one day find.

 

Smart women don't post themselves on the internet this way, they just don't. Justify it all you want. You're the one that claimed it was awful and you started to hate men, you weren't respected. So money was worth all that? If so, that's very sad.

[Jazzari]

Smart women don't post themselves on the internet this way, they just don't. Justify it all you want. You're the one that claimed it was awful and you started to hate men, you weren't respected. So money was worth all that? If so, that's very sad.

You know, I've seen some of the horrific ways in which people live who can't make a decent wage. This is not about making a quick buck to buy new shoes. This is about supporting her son and keeping him safe and healthy.

 

When my son was small, there is *nothing* I wouldn't have done to keep him out of those situations. Latch-key kid, no health care, exposed to drug pushers, gangs, etc? No way. Luckily for me, I had family to turn to. Not everyone has that option.

 

You think its more moral to let those things happen? I respectfully disagree.

[Alma Mobley]

how will he it cant be recorded. even if somebody did that would make them an evil person. my son means the world to me..anyone that does do that would only be doing it because they want to cause upset and i have no time for people like that

 

I just wanted to point out that YES, webcam shows absolutely can be recorded. There are whole websites devoted to swapping these videos of webcam shows among men. I know because my friend broke up with her boyfriend over this crap when she found all the videos he was recording of his webcam sessions and the websites. (He seemed to have a real problem with that and porn to an excessive degree.)

[Red Arremer]

With all due respect Ross, "2 cents" from someone who admits he'd have no issue with his sister feeling she had no choice but to do porn or be on a webcam, doesn't mean all that much. Most siblings would want more for their female siblings, would not even be able to imagine them feeling so desperate that that was their only option in life. Appalling.

 

And to perfectlyunique......it's funny that you defend yourself now but you were very clear in your previous post, to warn what a negative experience this was for you:

 

And sorry, I don't buy the "I couldn't find any other job" story. With the economy the way it's been over the past 5 years, there have been countless people out of work or unable to find work.......but the vast majority find other alternatives to support themselves and their children. What do you think hundreds of thousands of men have done? Turn to a webcam? What about hundreds of thousands of middle-aged women who obviously are in no physical position (or shape) to do such a thing? Somehow they figured out another way. And while your BF was just fine with you getting other men off, what was he doing to bring in an income? Was her busting his hump to find a job if he didn't have one? Work an extra job or 2 if he had to? I'm sorry but a man who really respects and loves his girlfriend would work 3 jobs if he had to, to prevent his GF from having to turn cyber-tricks. What do you think people did back in the day when webcamming didn't even exist? Obviously people didn't just crawl into a hole and die; they figured out a respectable way to make money.

 

Where there's a will there's a way but it's easy to take the easy way out for some, then try to justify it later. You have no idea that your stuff wasn't recorded....only for your son and/or his friends to one day find.

 

Smart women don't post themselves on the internet this way, they just don't. Justify it all you want. You're the one that claimed it was awful and you started to hate men, you weren't respected. So money was worth all that? If so, that's very sad.

Mmmmmmm yes baby keep the personal attacks coming they're soooooooooooooooooo hot

[Jazzari]

Mmmmmmm yes baby keep the personal attacks coming they're soooooooooooooooooo hot

Ahahahahaha! THAT is humor!

 

I'll try harder Blaidd.