Would you date a web cam model?

[oaks]

sure it does if you look good

 

Perhaps, but also, if you don't look good and you whine about it you'll look worse to anyone within earshot.

[perfectlyunique]

Admit it. You don't want to (actually can't) tell your son because what you did was wrong. Morally indecent and something that you should be ashamed of. It looked like you were but now you are defending yourself like you did the greatest thing in the world.

 

You say you have bettered yourself. So you mean that you were not a better person when you were a e-ho?

 

You still fail to answer what you would have done if you were not capable of being a web cam model apart from taking your son to your mom's house. And I can't even begin to imagine what kind of a man your bf is.

 

im not willing to discuss the matter further with you. i dont appreaciate being called a ho thanks.

[JohnnyCage]

im not willing to discuss the matter further with you. i dont appreaciate being called a ho thanks.

When a woman offers sex to a person for money she is called a ho.

What would you call a woman who offers cyber sex to a person for money? e-ho

[ladyinlimbo]

even if they do the sex will suck if they don't teach me. how many will teach a 41 year old who's had sex twice?

 

Having sex isn't akin to knowing how to build a nuclear reactor. It's not as complicated as you're making it out to be. So one chick in the past claimed she ended things with you because the 2 times you had sex it wasn't good for her...so what....doesn't mean she's the expert on good sex...only what was good to HER. Your mileage may vary considerably with others.

 

Get some good books on sex.....you have the internet at your fingertips with all kinds of online bookstores. Ask for suggestions if you need them.

 

Sex generally comes pretty natural........kissing, holding, touching, asking a woman what she likes......leading up to penis in vagina. There are probably some decent instructional type videos that you can order online, too. And no, not porn. That's not going to teach you.

 

There are probably a lot of women out there who don't have much relationship/sex experience, either. Why assume you're the only one in that boat? Consider if you were to meet a woman who married her highschool sweetheart.........he's the only man she'd ever been with.......maybe he wasn't that great but she didn't know any better....now they've divorced and she's back in the dating pool. You think she's not going to feel very experienced on many levels, too? The last time she dated might have been in the mid to late 80s.........now it's a whole new world of dating. You think she's not going to feel self conscious and fearful that a new man is going to judge her sexual abilities and prowess? You're not the only one in this boat, truly.

[Taramere]

Admit it. You don't want to (actually can't) tell your son because what you did was wrong. Morally indecent and something that you should be ashamed of. It looked like you were but now you are defending yourself like you did the greatest thing in the world.

 

What a poor, dainty, jasmine-scented cherub you are. What a shock this thread must be for your delicate rosebud of a constitution. Maybe we should all have a whip round to pay for some emergency PTSD therapy to cleanse your precious soul.

 

She needed cash, she stripped off and filmed it and got some money. She didn't mug anybody, she didn't hurt anyone, she didn't rip an old age pensioner off for their life savings or accept a whacking great bonus from a tax-payer funded bank bail-out. Get over it. If there's any parent in these parts who's likely to be an embarrassment to their kid, that would be your nasty, prissy self.

[JohnnyCage]

What a poor, dainty, jasmine-scented cherub you are. What a shock this thread must be for your delicate rosebud of a constitution. Maybe we should all have a whip round to pay for some emergency PTSD therapy to cleanse your precious soul.

 

She needed cash, she stripped off and filmed it and got some money. She didn't mug anybody, she didn't hurt anyone, she didn't rip an old age pensioner off for their life savings or accept a whacking great bonus from a tax-payer funded bank bail-out. Get over it. If there's any parent in these parts who's likely to be an embarrassment to their kid, that would be your nasty, prissy self.

Maybe I should strip to make money and make my kids proud of me. Are you proud of your mom?

[Taramere]

Maybe I should strip to make money and make my kids proud of me. Are you proud of your mom?

 

Yes, very. She's an extremely smart woman who worked full time hours to put my father through university. I'm proud of both of my parents. Of their intelligence, their accomplishments...and because they are people who with heart who would not sit in judgement of somebody like perfectlyunique who has obviously had some tough breaks, and did what she could to get through them.

 

From what she's said, she hurt nobody but herself through those webcam activities. As for it coming back to haunt her or to embarrass her child....God alone knows how much stuff there is on the Internet about all kinds of people. Somebody would have to be a serious stalker to be dredging up anything like that about her.

[JohnnyCage]

Yes, very. She's an extremely smart woman who worked full time hours to put my father through university. I'm proud of both of my parents. Of their intelligence, their accomplishments...and because they are people who with heart who would not sit in judgement of somebody like perfectlyunique who has obviously had some tough breaks, and did what she could to get through them.

 

From what she's said, she hurt nobody but herself through those webcam activities. As for it coming back to haunt her or to embarrass her child....God alone knows how much stuff there is on the Internet about all kinds of people. Somebody would have to be a serious stalker to be dredging up anything like that about her.

Good for you then. I am not judging her. She in her first post in this thread said that she felt bad and that it was a mistake and that she started hating men and everything and I am just agreeing to the fact that in fact all she experienced is nothing wrong as it is natural for someone to feel that way.

 

But after that first post she made a big u-turn and actually started defending the web cam model profession. Even prostitution is a profession. If she feels it was a mistake then accept it and move on rather than telling other women that it is okay to be one as long as it pays your bills.

 

There are jobs out there if you work hard enough for them. IMHO she didn't work hard enough for those jobs. And IMHO I don't see a diff being a web cam model and a ho. And what I am stating here is my opinion like everyone else is. This is after all a public forum where everyone gives an opinion. You can agree to disagree and move on.

[Taramere]

But after that first post she made a big u-turn and actually started defending the web cam model profession. Even prostitution is a profession. If she feels it was a mistake then accept it and move on rather than telling other women that it is okay to be one as long as it pays your bills.

 

There are jobs out there if you work hard enough for them. IMHO she didn't work hard enough for those jobs. And IMHO I don't see a diff being a web cam model and a ho. And what I am stating here is my opinion like everyone else is. This is after all a public forum where everyone gives an opinion. You can agree to disagree and move on.

 

Well, I don't think the sex industry would be a great career choice for many women...but immoral is a really strong word. Primarily because if the actions aren't causing harm to another person...where's the wrongdoing? The only wrong is the one she does herself, if she's participating in work that leaves her feeling degraded.

 

On the other hand, there are a lot of jobs out there in normal industry that are pretty degrading to the people who work in them....either because of the nature of the job itself, or because of the way colleagues/supervisors behave. Different forms of degradation.

 

I've worked as a lawyer, and occasionally had prostitutes as clients...looked at them and wonder "are you any worse off than I am? At least you're your own boss. At least you don't wake up in the middle of the night convinced you've missed an important deadline, or spend hours doing unpaid work dealing with a vexatious client who would see you hung drawn and quartered rather than pay for the work you did. Or fret about how to tackle a partner about making the admin staff's life hell, without losing your own job in the process."

 

I don't see sex industry work as immoral. I think of it as a method of survival for people (men work as prostitutes too, after all) who cannot deal with the ratrace of work and aren't in a position to set up a business of their own. I'm glad perfectlyunique has moved on from webcam stripping towards something more fulfilling, but I don't blame her for doing what she felt she needed to do to earn money when she couldn't see other options for herself.

[sweetsmiles]

Wow, this whole thread is so interesting that I had to sign up as a member to join in the FUN!

 

As for the original question, "is that no different than prostitution?"

The answer is no. There are smiliarities and there are differences. In a sense, you do use your body to make money and get off horny men (or women), so yes, e-ho would be one of the names that you're entitled with. However, it is NOT prostitute because it is strictly prohibited for models to meet members and receive money for sex. Performers are supposed to perform through a webcam and oh, emailing members outside of the site is prohibited for some sites. With that said, E-Ho can be quite suitable. Because the girls are getting paid to perform on the E, as in internet.

 

In the early posts, some of you said it was ok for men to go on those cam sites but it was not ok for the girls to get money to do it. Yes, welcome to our double-standarded society. Supply and demand. Some men want it and are willing to pay, so some girls do it and get paid. But it doesnt mean the girls ARE wrong and the men could get away with it. I must say many of the visitors are married or in serious committed relationships and come to us when wives/gfs are working, which make me sad to think some men are that sneaky. And no, not all of them are dirty 50yos. There are in fact many young and handsome men among my visitors! Oh and I had young, good looking female visitors too!

 

I'll use pirating as an example here: some country will arrest people who purchase a pirated CD, just as the drug users will be arrested for drug usage for some countries too. But in this case about e-whoring, it is legal as long as models follow the "code of conduct", depending on the sites' or countries' guidelines. For example, beastiality, incest, presenting as a minor will get your account as a model TERMINATED.

 

I wanna share my experience as a former "e-ho", and I welcome any personal attack.

 

It WAS a personal choice, yes, definitely. Did I have other options available? Yes. But why did I choose to do it? Because I can, and it's FUN. There are always more than one reason to motivate a behavior. I dont mind sharing mine if you are interested to know. Do I think it is immoral? Nope. Like some posts here suggested, it is hurting nobody. But will I suggest anyone to do it? Only if you are comfortable with your decision.

 

I did it for a few years and was one of the top models of the site I worked with. The money was very good and I satisfied my needs and wants at the moment. I used it as a tool to put myself through college, and of course, it was easy, fast, and BIG money too. Wait, let me take it back. It was fast and big, but it takes some hard work to be successful too, just like other jobs.

 

Now that I got my degree and I started my own business so I got out of it. Then you might ask, if it was so good then why did I want to get out? Again, because I can. I was not born in this world to make everyone happy, which is impossible anyway. Whatever I do, some people like it, some people hate it. Oh well. I wanted to get out because I did not have a critical reason to keep doing it and i did not consider it a career. But I might still turn on my cam from time to time if I'm bored *wink*. I'll even consider doing a show WITH my husband if he is up for it. The sites own the recorded videos yes, but they do not sell them. They record the sessions to see if anyone violates the code of conducts. I personal dont have contents available on the net. I posted pictures that didnt show my face and never made a video of my session. But some girls do it, of course.

 

For the time I was on there, I got paid to have fun. I got online when I had time. I had my control in my room. If a member made rude remarks then I kicked him out, even if he paid BIG to see me. On cam and working, yes you could call me an e-ho, only if you were respectful and you didnt cross the line, then you could ask for a show that I knew how to perform. But if you thought you had a few bucks and could degrade me in my room, you are so wrong. You would get kicked fast and blocked permanently so that you never got to come back. I must say the majority of my visitors were sweet and respectful, lucky me!!!

 

About getting naked, which is optional anyway, depending on what you're comfortable with. Some girls dont show face, or waist down, some dont show at ALL! Others show everything and get VERY freaky and dirty. You are NOT obligated to get naked, even if they pay you. It is an option, which most girls choose to do. Believe it or not, I spent most of my camming time chatting because I was fun to talk to and I told great stories (and of course, a sweet smile doesnt hurt! *grin*). Thats why they also call it "Video Chat Host" or those of you like to attack might say "video chat ho", ha.

 

Men come in and ask things that you can never imagine, which I thought, "wow thats how some men get off!!!" Human Sexuality is more complicated than you think! Must I steal a quote here, "different strokes for different folks!!!"

 

Below is a list for those of you who are interested:

 

Humiliation: some men want us insult them, calling them pigs, pathetic, or to insult their small size (you know where) but they might or might not be small.

Cuckold: Some men want to see their girlfriends have sex with other men and get insulted by it.

Smoking: some men pay us to smoke for them. I am not a smoker but I never imagined men actually get turned on and then get off watching women smoke AND are willing to pay up to 10bucks a min to just watch women smoke.

Financial Domination: Some men beg us to rape their wallets and would keep begging to send tips and use their money. (This one always made me laugh)

Bubble Gum: Some men like to see us chew gum.

Balloon: Some men ask to see us surrounded by balloons and poke them with a needle.

Foot Fetish: Some men pay to see feet.

Roleplay: Some men ask us to be something else to fullfill their fantasies.

Muscles: Some men ask to see us flex our muscles.

Others: I got asked brushing my hair. I got asked to laugh. I got asked to show my teeth.

 

The cammodeling is quite an acting job. For the members who want to be insulted, you would have to be a mean biotch right away and hide your smiley face; for the people who love to see a smoke show, you would blow rings when you smoke, etc etc. I was an e-ho yes, but outside of the camming world, I was a normal student. I studied hard and got good grades. I didn't sleep around and would only have sex with a boyfriend *still do that at the moment*. I wouldnt go on a date because a guy pays for dinner. I wouldnt make guys do things using my looks. I wouldnt receive offers of "meeting up and getting paid for sex". Gosh, how many members offered that!!!

 

I'm sorry that you ladies were attacked by men who are hypocritical or just don't know much about this industry OR have different opinions. I, too, like you girls, am a very sweet daughter, friend, and a loyal girlfriend to my love. I also want to make the world a better place and help the poor. It is too hard to make others happy. As long as you dont harm anybody, you can do whatever to make yourself happy! To PerfectlyUnique, You dont need their approval anyway. Your little one is the one who matters.

 

Sorry for the long novel. If anyone wanna attack me for my personal choice in the past without knowing me as a person, I do not mind. People talk all the time even without my invitation anyway, lol! I'm very open about discussing it. What happened happened already. I just wanted to share. And it's not like we really know each other to make it hurt and annoying. lol!

 

Thanks for reading and Happy weekend everyone!!!

Edited June 26, 2011 by sweetsmiles

[carhill]

Thanks for your perspective and nice writing. Welcome to LS

[rafallus]

Would you date a webcam model? Or is that no different from prostitution?

 

I wouldn't have a problem getting casual, but I'd be wary of getting commited - odds are high she may be an attention whore overall.