Do old fashioned (single) men still exist out there?

[musemaj11]

Study shows that female breadwinners also have lower life expectancy comparable to male breadwinners.

 

I just think that people who just wanna stay home are inconsiderate and lazy.

 

Code: "Im old-fashioned"

Decoded: "I dont wanna be bothered with money worries. I want a man who will take care of that for me."

 

Besides, having that classic wife lifestyle is also way to old school.

The concept of a spouse staying at home and not contributing financially is a modern invention probably born in the 1970s. In the past and in less developed societies, all women work. Apart from raising the children and cooking for the family, they also work the field helping their husbands and tending the livestock or having their own side job such as knitting, catering, or washing the neighbors laundry.

 

Anyway, being raised by a parent is overrated. I was raised by a nanny since my parents were both busy with their careers. Honestly I dont feel like I missed out on anything. In fact Im glad because I got to grow up in comfort thanks to my parents. Money isnt everything, but it does make your life easier.

Edited May 22, 2011 by musemaj11

[nordic]

Says who, says you? Who elected you to be the final word on what men will "go for"? A little arrogant to profess to speak for all of them.

 

What about the men? You think all of these men are chaste virgins? Who's to say they haven't had plenty of hook-ups or live-in situations? Sometimes both genders grow and evolve and change over time. An 18 yr old woman is hardly ready to be settling down. People have the RIGHT to change their views and lifestyle as they get older. Could the chip on your shoulder toward women be any larger? Why so much hostility? We all have a past, even you do. You talk like a woman in her early 30s is a used-up has been who is of no worth or value. Who $h*t in your cornflakes, seriously?

 

i agree with him.

 

men love sluts. because we like when they have uncomplicated sex with us without even knowing our names.

 

we would never consider marrying a woman like that. a lot of single women in their mid to late thirties have done lots of that stuff. and that just dont work for us.

[musemaj11]

What about successful women who stand to lose a lot, too, should they marry and end up in a divorce? Without meaning to sound arrogant, there are many of us who have worked very hard from an early age to support ourselves, make a good living, own a nice home, have a retirement and pension plan in place. We also stand to lose a lot should things go south. Here in Canada (not sure about the U.S.) if you live together (common-law) and split, the same rules apply as if you were married and divorcing. Do I want to take a chance and lose my home or half of the equity in it? Or potentially have to pay alimony because the chances are good my future husband will make less than me? It's not just men who are at risk.

Apart from a tiny minority, women wouldnt marry a man who is financially less in the first place. So your argument is a moot point.

 

What is ironic is that women want marriage but they give more and demand less from the men they date while they give less and demand more from the men they marry.

Edited May 22, 2011 by musemaj11

[nordic]

A few years per relationship is hardly short term. You make it sound like she is bouncing from one man to the next, month to month. She is trying to find a good man. As many here can testify, good mates are hard to find. She said they seemed nice at first - doesn't sound like she favors bad boys.

 

32 isn't exactly middle aged and nowhere did I see even a hint that she was a party girl.

 

Your ability to read "facts" seems to be lacking.

 

its not that jaz. she had other mens cocks inside her in a quantity. that means that she screaming and moaning coz some other man was screwing her. we just hate that. regardless of any reason she might have for it.

 

one should not marry a girl that does not feel sexually exclusive. it will just lead to anger and resentment.

 

now, she wants "old-fashion". well old-fashion is not being screwed by half the neighbourhood and then asking for marriage. you need to choose.

[musemaj11]

 

Lucky for me, I'm choosing the lifestyle of a man whom will never get married nor have children. I just turned 24 last month, have an adult, well paying job in NYC that's capable of supporting a comfortable lifestyle and I choose not to be dragged down by a woman. Hopefully more men follow suit with this. I wouldn't EVER want to be with a woman who expects to stay at home and be a housewife.

Smart man.

 

Unless the woman is wealthier, only a foolish man would get married.

 

More and more males of the newer generations understand that as a man you can get everything without having to get married. The only difference between being married and being not married is that one puts you at 50/50 legal risk of paying alimony and losing half of your lifetime earnings while the other gives you exactly the same benefits without the risk. Its a no-brainer choice really. Its unfortunate there is a lot of dumb guys out there who let fairy tale pulls ruin their future.

[Velociraptor]

This is why I would never join the military nor would I get married. We get it. Women hate us. The irony is, they still like having sex with us no strings attached, so it doesn't even matter.

 

I agree with everything else you said. But women do not "like" sex.

[irc333]

My question: Are there still single men out there in their 30s who have Christian morals and make enough money to support a wife and children?

 

Though, I would like an old-fashioned, Christian woman, expecting to find a man to support not only you AND your kids, is rather unrealistic. (sorry to say, especially with these uncertain, recessional times).

[irc333]

Dear old dad was a young man with a family when Hitler decided to turn the world upside down back in the late 30's. He answered the call to duty and went to Europe like millions of other men from many countries. While on duty, he got a 'dear John' letter from his wife telling him she was leaving and divorcing him and taking his children. I've read the letters (he saved them) so I know the details of a family I would never know.

 

Yeah, when I watched "Band of Brothers" this one officer's wife even took the dog. lol

 

I was kind of perplexed, "Women did this, even back then, too?? Just up and leave??"

 

I thought women were always waiting for their "true love" to come back from serving in the European Campaign, greeting him with love and kisses. THought they would wait loyally for their husband to get back from overseas.

 

When I would hear a scenario like this, I would be like "Are you SURE this was in 1935??"

[irc333]

With respect Jack, that happens all the time now to American GI's who are serving in Iraq and Afghan. It is very common for the police to go down to the airport when the military planes come in, and arrest the soldiers as soon as they touch down. In my part of the USA, they get a mandatory 6 month prison sentence for being behind in child support. This happens after they were away, were divorced, and never even got the chance to defend themselves in the divorce court.

 

I don't know about this, must be more to the story. Were these soldier's deliberately avoiding to pay child support, or simply were unable to pay child support because they were too busy in the middle East?

[Jynxx]

 

Have you ever considered a prenup?

 

 

From what I understand, prenups in the US are worthless. If even the richest men with the best lawyers can't get them to stand, then I'd say it's not enough protection for an average guy.

 

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/headlines/20101210-dallas-billionaire-andy-beal_s-divorce-turns-messy.ece

 

This made me so angry when I read it. She married him after he made his wealth, and thinks she deserves at least 5/6th of it, or even him in debt to her and flatbroke with everything going to her, for what exactly? Being a trophy wife with servants to take care of her every need? What did she really do to deserve at least 300 million $ per year from the time they were married?

[Movingthrough]

I havent read all the replies, so maybe this was already said, but it kinda stinks to see posts like this because guys are saying the same things too.

 

I consider myself old fashioned and have always run my relationships off the basic, standard morals for the way a relationship "should" be, or was back when commitments were more serious between a couple. But, like you on the flip side, I feel the majority of females (my age plays a part) are not like that anymore. I think both sexes feel that there are no "good" partners out there anymore, which is a shame, because it proves its getting more scarce on both sides.

 

In certain sessions i have had in therapy, i would say the same thing you are saying (only from a guys view) and my therapist (whos female) said when she was my age she thought the same thing.

 

My point is both sexes are thinking what you are thinking, which is good because it proves some people still want the traditional relationship, but it also stinks because it proves its not that common anymore if we are posting to the world that its hard for us to find. My main complaint is that people my age (25-30) seem to not take commitment serious at all anymore - girls and guys.

 

I will say for people on the board that grew up in a time where dating was more serious, nowadays it is not like that. Most people in their mid to late 20's want to fall in love fast and feel that honeymoon phase. When it wears off they want to find it again, its a weird cycle that is very popular and i see people my age getting married, saying they love each other, then months later broken up and with someone else. It is a lot more acceptable nowadays to just move on instead of working through things.

[sagetalk]

But to never love again? I couldn't live like that.

 

Me either, I'm not bitter, just disappointed. I know there are women who have the values I seek, they are just the minority and I wish they were the majority.

[Eve]

I am 32, pretty (I am told), intelligent and fun. I seem to date a LOT of jerks though. They always seem nice at first... too perfect almost. Then I date them for a few years and they turn out to be cheaters or scary control freaks-

 

My question: Are there still single men out there in their 30s who have Christian morals and make enough money to support a wife and children? I want to raise my children myself. I don't want to be faced with choosing between paying attention to a career or my children. I am not a gold digger. I just want to live comfortably, keep a tidy house, spoil my husband and be a great mother. 40 years ago this is was how things were. Women who wanted to stay home weren't considered to be lazy. It seems all the men I know are underemployed and don't really care to be doing better. They expect women to do everything around the house and raise the kids and make all the money. That isn't the life I want.

 

Words of encouragement anyone? I am losing hope? Where have all the old fashioned good men gone

 

Only read the first page.

 

I don't think you are a gold digger at all but would venture to say that working yourself is still important as the children get a little older. I always tried to suppliment my Hubbys wage with part-ime work when the kids were little. I chose to do this by having other peoples kids to ensure their socialisation was age appropriate and fulfilling for them all. It was a lot of fun being free from work and being able to take them all over the place to learn new things. I think this stability helped once they began formal schooling too because I had actually managed to teach them to read and write by then too. Also, managing housework and working is a nightmare! It is far better to have enough time to keep on top of things, unless of course you can pay someone to do all of that.

 

I really do hope that you find what you are looking for because when children are young they do need their parents a lot, lot, lot! Thankfullly my Hubby shared in this perspective and spent lots of time with them too developing interests etc. Family should come before work in my opinion but there is a need to be creative and suppliment whoever goes out to work. Unless of course you are lucky enough to already be established financially. Even then the focus of providing hgh levels of nurturing and socialisation is equally as challenging because you can't buy emotions etc.

 

I am not willing to debate the in's and out's of anything here really as where I live I know lots and lots of men who are looking for what you speak off. It is the norm in my neck of the woods and not something extraordinary at all.

 

Anyhow, just wanted to say that I hope that you find what you are looking for. How to find such a man, I don't know what to suggest other than living true to yourself and frequenting places you enjoy going to and taking up new interests that will one day feed a family on different levels.

 

All the best,

Take care,

Eve x

[Jazzari]

This thread was originally about looking for an old fashioned man. But from what I understand, people are saying that there are no old fashioned women out there.

 

Since so many people are saying it, I guess I will have to conceed that they are rare. My responses have been based on my own experience:

 

I'm old fashioned and was raised in a traditional loving home. My mother never worked and my father was easily able to support her and their 4 children. We didn't have the large TVs, multiple cars and UK vacations. But I thought what we did have was far more valuable.

 

I'm attractive but I'm not a party girl and never have been. I dated very few men. My 2 older brothers would have kicked anyone's butt that tried to get into my pants and most guys were scared to even ask me out.

 

I did make a mistake in my first marriage, but I didn't take a dime in my divorce. I got a wonderful son out of the marriage (concieved during the marriage) so I don't regret it.

 

I didn't date for 3 years after my divorce since I was taking care of my young son. No post divorce partying for me. I dated 2 men after that and married the second one.

 

Far from resenting my son from my first marriage, my second husband loved him as much as he did me. He adopted him and was his real father in every way except biological.

 

My second marriage was an old fashioned one though I did work part time and from home on occasion. But it was always a sideline and my husband preferred that I not work at all. Finances were tight at times, but I never felt like I wasn't doing my share. My husband very much appreciated and valued the contributions that I made in taking care of him and our son. And it made him feel good to be the provider. After my son graduated, my husband was very supportive and proud of the computer work I did from home. But he still never expected me to earn money.

 

I don't expect a man to lavish me with gifts or take me out to expensive dinners or fancy vacations. I'm a jeans and tshirt kinda girl and I don't need or want expensive clothes or jewelry. I'm not exactly a financial burden.

 

The men I'm attracted to tend to be the over protective, traditional kind of guys. I've dated one man since my husband's death, and he seems to be the same type. I don't know if he is open to supporting a wife but I'm guessing he would be. At this point, it doesn't matter.

 

I'm in my 40s so maybe that's what makes the difference. Or maybe it's how I was raised. Or the fact that 2 older brothers watched my every move in high school. My son also tells me there are no women out there that are "like me".

 

I hear what you guys are saying. I see what happened to my brother and the complaints from my son. And it hurts to see that. But the lifestyle works for me and I've never once screwed a guy over, left him hanging or took his money. Taking care of a man makes me happy. And it seems to make the man happy to take care of me. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Jazzari]

Forgot to add - my sister is the same way. Old fashioned non-party girl, married an old fashioned man. Quit her job when they had a child and is currently raising a 5 year old girl. They are very happy.

 

She's been married once and didn't marry until her late 30s. Sometimes it just takes awhile to find the right guy.

[thatone]

so i decided to look at some statistics, taken from google searches so believe what you want, of some of the states i've lived in for extended periods of time.

 

http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsUS.shtml

 

nevada has the highest divorce rate, which one would expect since they have a whole industry that encourages hasty marriage.

 

arkansas is second. bible belt state. strange? no, makes perfect sense to me. men and women think they have to marry to live with one another or date past a few months due to some church and its social rules. they marry and divorce instead of date. it's also one of the poorest states, so no matter how bad off either side is in a divorce, they're not losing much if they didn't have much to start with.

 

http://www.divorcereform.org/94staterates.html

 

louisiana is much lower on the list, in the bottom 10. this is a state where finding casual sex in a bar is more acceptable than any other state in the south, yet divorce rates are lower by far. why? because it's acceptable to simply be in long term relationships and not be married, and to have casual sex.

 

another thing for louisiana, is it's a community property state. when people in their 30s/40s get married, if either party has a house, a business, investments, etc before marriage it remains theirs by default. the spouse has no claim against property owned before the marriage in a divorce, unless the property in question was explicitly "given" in legal terms after the marriage. wisconsin is also such a state without a very high conservative/religious population and community property laws (only half identify themselves as protestant christian), and has a lower divorce rate even than louisiana.

 

you can look at this one of a few ways for louisiana and wisconsin, from the terms of money in divorces.

 

my opinions are...

 

a) women are less likely to divorce due to having a harder time taking the money with them.

 

b) women are less likely to marry for profit motive in the first place.

 

c) both men and women are allowed to simply be single for as long as they want without negative religious criticism.

 

the fact that women initiate most divorces is well documented, so i start with that as a given in the above.

 

 

 

 

I am 32, pretty (I am told), intelligent and fun. I seem to date a LOT of jerks though. They always seem nice at first... too perfect almost. Then I date them for a few years and they turn out to be cheaters or scary control freaks-

 

My question: Are there still single men out there in their 30s who have Christian morals and make enough money to support a wife and children? I want to raise my children myself. I don't want to be faced with choosing between paying attention to a career or my children. I am not a gold digger. I just want to live comfortably, keep a tidy house, spoil my husband and be a great mother. 40 years ago this is was how things were. Women who wanted to stay home weren't considered to be lazy. It seems all the men I know are underemployed and don't really care to be doing better. They expect women to do everything around the house and raise the kids and make all the money. That isn't the life I want.

 

Words of encouragement anyone? I am losing hope? Where have all the old fashioned good men gone

 

here's my stereotypical knee jerk response to your question without knowing anything else about you...

 

if you wanted christian morals and marriage you should've gotten it when you were in your 20s. you chose to stay single until 32. now you want it both ways? it's too late, you don't get to be that person anymore. you chose who you wanted to be, live with your decision.

 

you live in western michigan, most people are underemployed there nevermind just men, it's one of the hardest hit places by the current recession. who's the control freak? you expect men to overcome problems beyond their control.

 

every time you told someone you dated that you were "too busy" or "not looking for a relationship right now" or any other such typical female response to a man they're rejecting instead of telling those men you simply aren't attracted to them, and unless you're a virgin at 32, you violate two of your religion's 10 primary rules on a regular basis. so if you make christian morals a litmus test of course you're going to find dishonest people, 99% of christians don't have christian morals.

 

and as for who this is coming from, i'm older than you are by a few years but also in my 30s, never married, still dating. i am well capable of taking care of two people, and actually have no problem helping women with money even when we're just dating. but i don't date women my age who say they want "christian morals" because if they claim to have been "christian" for all of those years past high school they're lying. if they have no problem with lying to themselves about their religion that they claim to put so much emphasis on, what's gonna stop them from lying to me?

 

if you're a 32 year old virgin who never lived with anyone you were in a long term relationship with feel free to tell me how wrong i am. but i highly doubt that you are.

 

you wanna find honest men? stop lying to them about who you are.

Edited May 22, 2011 by thatone

[thatone]

This is such an excellent response I just wanted to compliment you on the writing of it. Non confrontational and just filled with pure facts.

 

Too bad the op and other women here will not listen to it. Something tells me they just come to listen to what they wanted to hear, and argue with whatever doesn't meet their preconceived wishes and desires for ego boosting. One is forced to wonder why they come to a discussion board at all.

 

i appreciate the compliment, but to clarify...

 

i'm not prejudiced against people who don't deserve it. i date women my age (i'm 34), without much regard for whether they're divorced, or have more relationship experience than me, or have had casual sex-only relationships, or whatever other situation they're coming from. the one promising prospect i'm dating now has been all of those things in her past, actually.

 

but, like i said, i don't attach religious morality to relationships. those people at my age are being judgmental, and deserve the same judgement in return.

 

just as the OP can convince herself that she's a shining example of christian virtue at 32, the men she finds can convince themselves that she deserves their dishonesty when they leave her for greener pastures.

 

her problem isn't finding qualities in a man she wants, her problem is admitting to herself that she doesn't have the qualities that she says she wants, and thus will never find an equal, honest partner.

Edited May 22, 2011 by thatone

[lino]

There are many men like that around.

 

They're the ones that in the past you would have been just friends with or ignored in favour of the 'LOTS of jerks' you went out with.

 

 

I don't know if I'm really old fashioned or not but I'm a decent man and I've always been so. I'd never get involved with a woman who has a past of constant relationships with a*sholes. I'm not going to be her safety net just because she's 'over it'

 

As I approach 30, I'm seeing this sort of mentality quite a bit from my single/divorced female peers.

I can't say I feel any sympathy for them at all.

Everyone is accountable for their actions, even women.

[ladyinlimbo]

There are many men like that around.

 

They're the ones that in the past you would have been just friends with or ignored in favour of the 'LOTS of jerks' you went out with.

 

 

I don't know if I'm really old fashioned or not but I'm a decent man and I've always been so. I'd never get involved with a woman who has a past of constant relationships with a*sholes. I'm not going to be her safety net just because she's 'over it'

 

As I approach 30, I'm seeing this sort of mentality quite a bit from my single/divorced female peers.

I can't say I feel any sympathy for them at all.

Everyone is accountable for their actions, even women.

 

This whole topic can be turned around to the other side.

 

How many guys go through their late teens to mid 30s being players; going from chick to chick, screw to screw, from one hot party babe to the next, using plenty of women just for fun and sex...........then he's approaching mid to late 30s (or older) and suddenly he wakes up one day and has an epiphany...........he's never been in love, he wants to settle down, build a future with a good woman, have a family, etc........but the decent/mature/devoted/down to earth woman who aren't into the club scene are just not to be found -- because someone else has long since snapped them up. So then he's bitter and claims there are no good women left. Really? They were there and around you all along.......but you were too busy looking for fun, hotter, tighter, no strings, no commitments, hit it and quit it, notches in your bedpost, etc.

 

Oh the irony. :wink:

Edited May 22, 2011 by ladyinlimbo

[thatone]

This whole topic can be turned around to the other side.

 

How many guys go through their late teens to mid 30s being players; going from chick to chick, screw to screw, from one hot party babe to the next, using plenty of women just for fun and sex...........then he's approaching mid to late 30s (or older) and suddenly he wakes up one day and has an epiphany...........he's never been in love, he wants to settle down, build a future with a good woman, have a family, etc........but the decent/mature/devoted/down to earth woman who aren't into the club scene are just not to be found -- because someone else has long since snapped them up. So then he's bitter and claims there are no good women left. Really? They were there and around you all along.......but you were too busy looking for fun, hotter, tighter, no strings, no commitments, hit it and quit it, notches in your bedpost, etc.

 

Oh the irony. :wink:

 

indeed, that 'equality' thing is a constant b*tch isn't it?

 

it amazes me the multitudes of people who even with their lives half over with, can't be honest with themselves about who they are.

[salty goodness]

This whole topic can be turned around to the other side.

 

How many guys go through their late teens to mid 30s being players; going from chick to chick, screw to screw, from one hot party babe to the next, using plenty of women just for fun and sex...........then he's approaching mid to late 30s (or older) and suddenly he wakes up one day and has an epiphany...........he's never been in love, he wants to settle down, build a future with a good woman, have a family, etc........but the decent/mature/devoted/down to earth woman who aren't into the club scene are just not to be found -- because someone else has long since snapped them up. So then he's bitter and claims there are no good women left. Really? They were there and around you all along.......but you were too busy looking for fun, hotter, tighter, no strings, no commitments, hit it and quit it, notches in your bedpost, etc.

 

Oh the irony. :wink:

 

 

i totally agree. or the men who after having numerous sexual partners, dating everything that moved suddenly decide in their 30's and 40's that they want virgins with Christian morals but then are shocked that these young women who really are serious and conservative want nothing to do with them.

 

the people i've known who are very serious about their religious beliefs married fairly young and married like-minded individuals. i went to college with women like this, one of whom i was very friendly with, she got married at 23, was a virgin and married a man who was also a virgin. they met doing volunteer work sponsered by a local church.

[lino]

This whole topic can be turned around to the other side.

 

How many guys go through their late teens to mid 30s being players; going from chick to chick, screw to screw, from one hot party babe to the next, using plenty of women just for fun and sex...........then he's approaching mid to late 30s (or older) and suddenly he wakes up one day and has an epiphany...........he's never been in love, he wants to settle down, build a future with a good woman, have a family, etc........but the decent/mature/devoted/down to earth woman who aren't into the club scene are just not to be found -- because someone else has long since snapped them up. So then he's bitter and claims there are no good women left. Really? They were there and around you all along.......but you were too busy looking for fun, hotter, tighter, no strings, no commitments, hit it and quit it, notches in your bedpost, etc.

 

Oh the irony. :wink:

 

Not really. Guys who are/were players for much of their lives never have a problem finding serious girlfriends or wives. In fact, many of them continue 'playing' well into their relationships or marriages... often with the woman still staying with him even though she knows he's a sleazy cheater.

Guys like that are usually sought after by women.

 

 

Anyways I've never been a player or a cheater so it doesn't apply to someone like me

[Jazzari]

I just asked my sister about this. She married in her 30s. She said most of her peers (she listed about 20 women) did the same. They went to school, got a good job, met a good man and married. They worked until they had a child, then quit to stay home and raise the family. None of the women were party girls, used up or looking for a meal ticket.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with a 30s woman looking for a traditional man.

[thatone]

 

the people i've known who are very serious about their religious beliefs married fairly young and married like-minded individuals. i went to college with women like this, one of whom i was very friendly with, she got married at 23, was a virgin and married a man who was also a virgin. they met doing volunteer work sponsered by a local church.

 

and that's great, if they're happy i'm happy for them.

 

but people can't wake up one morning and decide to be who they're not. it doesn't work that way.

[Woggle]

This thread was originally about looking for an old fashioned man. But from what I understand, people are saying that there are no old fashioned women out there.

 

Since so many people are saying it, I guess I will have to conceed that they are rare. My responses have been based on my own experience:

 

I'm old fashioned and was raised in a traditional loving home. My mother never worked and my father was easily able to support her and their 4 children. We didn't have the large TVs, multiple cars and UK vacations. But I thought what we did have was far more valuable.

 

I'm attractive but I'm not a party girl and never have been. I dated very few men. My 2 older brothers would have kicked anyone's butt that tried to get into my pants and most guys were scared to even ask me out.

 

I did make a mistake in my first marriage, but I didn't take a dime in my divorce. I got a wonderful son out of the marriage (concieved during the marriage) so I don't regret it.

 

I didn't date for 3 years after my divorce since I was taking care of my young son. No post divorce partying for me. I dated 2 men after that and married the second one.

 

Far from resenting my son from my first marriage, my second husband loved him as much as he did me. He adopted him and was his real father in every way except biological.

 

My second marriage was an old fashioned one though I did work part time and from home on occasion. But it was always a sideline and my husband preferred that I not work at all. Finances were tight at times, but I never felt like I wasn't doing my share. My husband very much appreciated and valued the contributions that I made in taking care of him and our son. And it made him feel good to be the provider. After my son graduated, my husband was very supportive and proud of the computer work I did from home. But he still never expected me to earn money.

 

I don't expect a man to lavish me with gifts or take me out to expensive dinners or fancy vacations. I'm a jeans and tshirt kinda girl and I don't need or want expensive clothes or jewelry. I'm not exactly a financial burden.

 

The men I'm attracted to tend to be the over protective, traditional kind of guys. I've dated one man since my husband's death, and he seems to be the same type. I don't know if he is open to supporting a wife but I'm guessing he would be. At this point, it doesn't matter.

 

I'm in my 40s so maybe that's what makes the difference. Or maybe it's how I was raised. Or the fact that 2 older brothers watched my every move in high school. My son also tells me there are no women out there that are "like me".

 

I hear what you guys are saying. I see what happened to my brother and the complaints from my son. And it hurts to see that. But the lifestyle works for me and I've never once screwed a guy over, left him hanging or took his money. Taking care of a man makes me happy. And it seems to make the man happy to take care of me. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

 

 

You should be proud that you are like this. Women who think like you are a rare gem. I wouldn't even an equality minded woman who truly believes in equality and doesn't look at independence as some card she can pull out when it is convienient. My wife is very much like that.