Jynxx Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I don't understand why not having LTR experience puts you at higher risk of a breakup. But since I'm not standing in your shoes, I'll take your word for it. Let's put it this way: if the only experience from solving a conflict with a female comes from arguing with your mom, you'll be worse at solving a conflict and making up after a fight with your girlfriend than average. Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 a dried out woman of 32 The most beautiful, sexiest, and best in bed women I've dated have been 30+, and will include the 38 y.o. I dated when 28 in that. And I actually dated many hot young 20 somethings in the day. No problem getting them then, putting up with their crap for longer than a couple months another matter entirely. In other words, all the ones in the "rotation" are 30+ Link to post Share on other sites
Jazzari Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Let's put it this way: if the only experience from solving a conflict with a female comes from arguing with your mom, you'll be worse at solving a conflict and making up after a fight with your girlfriend than average. Maybe....but... 1. Guys never seem to figure out women. No matter how experienced they are, lol! 2. Women are individuals. What works with one might not work with another. So past experience might not help you at all. But if you are more comfortable with younger women (or those with little experience), then I have no problem with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Taylor Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 With respect, if you're doing the rotation thing (pua stuff) then 30+ women are just too easy. They're desperate and no challenge. If you like cougars though, more power too ya. Of all my friends, I know only one who swings that way, and he doesn't admit it openly. The thing with cougars is some that are say 55-60 look better than most 35-40 year olds. I'd bang one, but never get into a relationship with one. I have little to no interest in those my age. Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 A lot of women are unrealistic creatures. It seems its hard for them to see the bigger picture of things. Times have changed, today you can't be a man or a woman anymore. You have to be both. I mean these days a man can no longer expect to have the responsiblity of making money only and nothing else. He has to also be ready to help with the cooking, cleaning and raising the children. Link to post Share on other sites
thatone Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Was kidding about the bad taste, but know exactly what you are saying. Had a 38 y.o. GF play this Justin Timberlake song "at" me over and over a couple years back in a car until I "liked it." O the pain, really need PTSD therapy for that actually. yeah, i know. timberlake is actually not a bad actor, though. i liked that alpha dog movie...so i'd probably deal with him being played at me. now, telling me about the literary genius of the twilight books, that's something i struggle with day to day. Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 With respect, if you're doing the rotation thing (pua stuff) I meant my -personal- "rotation." Figure it out yet? Have you ever been involved for any amount of time with a 30+ woman in her sexual prime who hasn't had kids yet? Getting the impression that you haven't, good for you as you have LOTS to look forward to. Link to post Share on other sites
thatone Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Have you ever been involved for any amount of time with a 30+ woman in her sexual prime who hasn't had kids yet? Getting the impression that you haven't, good for you as you have LOTS to look forward to. seconded, and the 35 year old date from friday is on her way over right now so i'm done for awhile. peace! Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 now, telling me about the literary genius of the twilight books, that's something i struggle with day to day. Kite Runner Celestine Prophecy Harry f-cking Potter DaVinci Code or any Dan Brown garbagio Five People You Meet in Heaven The Alchemist any Oprah books etcetcetc then there are the "Tabloid Queens" who buy five a week (that's like $60-100 per month, might as well smoke crack and at least be edgy!) and hide em from you. Then you find the stash and lie to them, "Nah that's cool honey," so they then leave them out. I take phone cam pictures of National Enquirer covers strewn in their places to remind myself how wise I was to get out when it's over. Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I have been with an older girl (32). It's pretty easy to get with one of these. She was really quite attractive but "loose" is the best way to describe her. Not just in the pussy, but generally loose all over. I have been around older women quite a bit, 30s and 40s. I don't dig wrinkles, facial hair, the smell of them. They don't really do it for me, and I don't find the middle age "at the sexual peak" as you say, at all. Ashton Kutcher would agree with you. Some men like cougars, others like midgets or scat or cuckold porn. I guess I like the boring vanilla early 20s girls my age who look and smell nice like the vast majority. One is not enough, and if you've been with -1- how on earth do you know how easy they are to get with? keep exploring, but drop the doctrinaire attitude about 30+ women, it's plain inaccurate. The "loosest" woman I ever dated was a 20 y.o. in college, and the tightest was a 38 y.o. with Grace Kelly's face on Pam Anderson's body who could stop traffic. The best in bed though, was a 33 y.o. with a perfectly yoga sculpted body (younger women don't have those because they party, drink too much and don't think they have to work out yet) who knew what a wrought iron bed was for, something no teeny bopper is going to be uninhibited enough to match. Good luck, open your mind Link to post Share on other sites
OliveOyl Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 LOL! This has to be one of the most insane things I have ever read, yet it is the prevailing sentiment among women here. Nobody *deserves* a relationship. Relationships happen if you have something to offer another person. Take, just for an example, a dried out woman of 32. What on earth does she have to offer a traditional man? Her looks are gone, her fertility is gone, and after partying it up through the prime she wants a white knight to ride in and SUPPORT HER financially for the rest of her life. Here's a bit of a clue: Women don't dry out at 32. Nor do they become infertile. Far from it. I had my first kid at 34 with no effort. And I'm a lot older now and still not anything close to dried out. Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) I don't think 32 is "over the hill" by any means. I will say this though: You have to deserve what you want. For example, I'd like a job that pays 7 figures because I am just as good a person as someone who does have such a job, but I'm not going to get such a job until someone feels I am giving him or her 7 figures' worth of value. The OP's track record of dating jerks (due to her poor screening mechanisms, going by her previous threads on here anyway) makes it hard to believe that she indeed deserves to be with the type of guy she so desires. Reading her stories, I know I would have a hard time taking her seriously. Most guys who have options probably feel similarly. Edited May 23, 2011 by Imajerk17 Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 No signs of the OP anyway. Is she some sort of troll? Link to post Share on other sites
eerie_reverie Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I don't know where all y'all womenbashers are from, but where I live, many women in their 30's look better than their 20-something selves. By then you have hopefully learned to take care of yourself by eating right, exercising, and getting enough sleep; you are probably drinking less and have given up other bad habits; you have less stress about career and finances; more money to spend on clothes and hair; and more self-confidence and independence. Every age group has its pros and cons, but I see the 30's as prime picking for women, not the 20's. Personally, being in the in-between at 25, I know I bring a lot more to the table than I did 4 years ago. I also don't think it's unreasonable for the OP to desire a man who can support a family, particularly if she would be able to do so as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Women can be beautiful at all ages so I don't agree with bashing older women. Nobody stays young forever so lets's not devalue people over a certain age. That being said the big red flag is that from previous posts it seems that the OP has a history of dating jerks. Any man can tell you that 9 times out of 10 when you try to show a healthy relationship to a woman that has a history of being with jerks it ends up in disaster. Female drama addicts usually do not change. The few ones that do do so because they take a hard look in the mirror. Link to post Share on other sites
eerie_reverie Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Here's the thing eerie: A woman brings her looks and her integrity to the table, the man brings his wealth. That's what the op said she wanted. What she, you and the other women here don't seem to realize, is that women are depreciating assets. Women do not get more attractive. Usually, around 30, they hit a wall and become horribly ugly, menopausal, crazy and downright unpleasant. Men, in contrast, do not depreciate. This is why you can go downtown and see a reasonably unattractive 50 or 60 year old with a 25 year old hottie on his arm. His money continues on... unless he makes the fatal mistake of getting married. I don't know why any man would want to get married, but if there is a man who does, he probably wouldn't marry a 32 year old with a long and sordid history. He would marry a 22 year old who had good values. As you keep attention whoring, bringing yourself up, I shall join you in wondering why, at 25, you are undateable. You must have a LOT of problems. If you were 32, I could see it. I will tell you the same thing I told you last evening: Work on yourself, continue to improve, and let a relationship happen if it does. If it is going to, it will be in the next couple of years. There is no relationship fairy out there giving out eligible millionaires to all the old middle age cat ladies. If you are going to have a healthy relationship that lasts for any length of time, it will happen in the next year or two. When it does, work hard at it and I wish you luck. Boxer. Lol. I wish I could go on a date with you. It'd be a riot. Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Lol. I wish I could go on a date with you. It'd be a riot. Can see the Blind Date episode now, the "Actuary" v "Depreciating Assets." Funfun Link to post Share on other sites
OliveOyl Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 What she, you and the other women here don't seem to realize, is that women are depreciating assets. Women do not get more attractive. Usually, around 30, they hit a wall and become horribly ugly, menopausal, crazy and downright unpleasant. Men, in contrast, do not depreciate. This is why you can go downtown and see a reasonably unattractive 50 or 60 year old with a 25 year old hottie on his arm. His money continues on... unless he makes the fatal mistake of getting married. Women are "objects" that can "depreciate" ? Horribly ugly? Menopausal? Have you ever MET any women around the age of 30? It's obvious from this post you are simply trolling. Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Whats funny about most women is that if they suddenly became men, they wouldnt wanna support stay at home women either. Link to post Share on other sites
OliveOyl Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Whats funny about most women is that if they suddenly became men, they wouldnt wanna support stay at home women either. How many women do you know that suddenly became men? Do you guys just pull these statements out of a hat? Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 How many women do you know that suddenly became men? Do you guys just pull these statements out of a hat? Oh please, Ask yourself the same question and be honest with yourself. Would you want to support a healthy adult who stays home while you work your arse off trying to make ends meet? Link to post Share on other sites
OliveOyl Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Where I come from we call this the rationalization hamster. So HAVE you met any women around the age of 30? I'd love to see some pictures of attractive women at age 22 who suddenly became "horribly ugly" at age 30. Or maybe you watched "Logan's Run" too many times? Oh nvm... that film was undoubtably before your time... Link to post Share on other sites
OliveOyl Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oh please, Ask yourself the same question and be honest with yourself. Would you want to support a healthy adult who stays home while you work your arse off trying to make ends meet? Yes, if that person was raising my kids. Being a stay-at-home parent is NO picnic. Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yes, if that person was raising my kids. Being a stay-at-home parent is NO picnic. You would support a stay at home husband then? Link to post Share on other sites
sanskrit Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Being a stay-at-home parent is NO picnic. Nor does it compare even remotely in effort or difficulty, to the average corporate job or especially a job requiring manual labor, bogus inflated "studies" estimating the worth of household labor notwithstanding. Link to post Share on other sites
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