Do you think visiting prostitutes (paid sex) is wrong?

[PhillyDude]

Any mabn who can get p*ssy for free is truly a sad individual. That is one of the most easiest things to do in this world

[Ross MwcFan]

Any mabn who can get p*ssy for free is truly a sad individual. That is one of the most easiest things to do in this world

 

Thanks a lot.

 

Not sure why you feel the need to put us down.

[sanskrit]

But for some guys it isn't. So what do you suggest they do? Chemical casteration?

 

Was teasing guys, am all for prostitution. Here's why. Black market prostitution (the only kind there is in most of the world) is very dangerous to women via STDs, physical abuse, organized crime, and these dangers extend to the customers as well. Government regulated prostitution, and will cite Amsterdam as an example, is a much better, safer environment for female sex workers than the black market.

 

It's kind of like smoking weed. Anyone who wants to do it is doing it already, and nothing a government can do is going to make it go away, so why not regulate and tax it?

 

It's all about protecting women from black market dangers, so at least where prostitution is concerned, I'm very much a proud feminist.

[somedude81]

Is that true?

 

(I'm sceptical, but willing to be persuaded by facts.)

Rapes by country.

The US is number 9. Oddly enough both Canada and Australia are on the top 10.

 

Here is a journal paper I found.

 

http://www.independent.org/publications/working_papers/article.asp?id=1300

 

The paper seems professional but I don't know about the source.

 

Here is his conclusion.

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Given all of these problems, the analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by the legalization of prostitution. In the United States where prostitution is illegal, the low-end price for most prostitutes is about $200 and the monthly per capita income is $2,820. In Amsterdam, Netherlands where prostitution is legal the price is $30. If prostitution were legalized in the United States it is rational to assume that prices would resemble those in the Netherlands, this would result in a change in I of 80 and a decrease in the rape rate of 8.6 per 100,000. The population of the United States if roughly 300 million so this should result is a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year.

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At $30 for an escort I would never go more than a month without sex. Right now I'm at about two years. While my most recent time was with not with a hooker it still cost me $$ for a door fee. I haven't been able to find a similar event in the few times I looked. Even then it's like a box of chocolates.

Edited May 28, 2011 by somedude81

[PhillyDude]

Thanks a lot.

 

Not sure why you feel the need to put us

down.

 

 

Unless a guy is a MONSTER I see no reason why he can't have sex for free

[sanskrit]

What's that I hear off in the distance? Sounds like a shrieking flock of some loud bird headed this way... quick! take cover!

[oaks]

Thanks. I'll go and read.

[Woggle]

Keeping it illegal has not stopped it so why not legalize it and make sure the woman are protected and paid well? This is much better than woman being abused by pimps. It is between consenting adults and there is no point in keeping it illegal. Also there is no difference between a gold digger and a prostitute except that the latter is more honest.

[sanskrit]

Unless a guy is a MONSTER I see no reason why he can't have sex for free

 

Tell us about the last few times you had sex that were completely free, and remember, time = money.

[Shaun-Dro]

I used to think that going the prostitution route is cheaper. But I was wrong. It also depends on how attractive you are though. If you are really low on the attractiveness scale, then going the prostitution route however expensive it is is the only choice you have if you want to sleep with the hottest women.

 

But if you are quite up there on the attractiveness level, then its much cheaper to pay for dates then paying for prostitutes.

 

I mean I heard those escorts at Nevada brothels charge up to five figures for their service!

 

This isn't entirely true as I used to know a guy that was about 3 out of 10 on the looks scale with terrible skin & bad breath. He frequented hookers, but none of them were hot, because any time he tried to get with one she either declined him with excuses, or charged so freaking much that there was no way he could afford her.

 

I knew he was being overcharged because he had me call up the same girl and ask for her services. After she received a picture of me and spoke to me on the phone, she only charged me half-price , so go figure.

 

Prostitutes won't sleep with ANYONE believe it or not. They'll sleep with a lot of money-makers, but he has to be somewhat presentable, especially if she's a hot piece of ass, because she isn't that desperate.

[PhillyDude]

Tell us about the last few times you had sex that were completely free, and remember, time = money.

 

 

I have met a woman off of telephone dating services and we would have sex the first time they came to my place. I don't pay for sex just fetish activity because fetishes is harder to get for free than sex.

[PhillyDude]

This isn't entirely true as I used to know a guy that was about 3 out of 10 on the looks scale with terrible skin & bad breath. He frequented hookers, but none of them were hot, because any time he tried to get with one she either declined him with excuses, or charged so freaking much that there was no way he could afford her.

 

I knew he was being overcharged because he had me call up the same girl and ask for her services. After she received a picture of me and spoke to me on the phone, she only charged me half-price , so go figure.

 

Prostitutes won't sleep with ANYONE believe it or not. They'll sleep with a lot of money-makers, but he has to be somewhat presentable, especially if she's a hot piece of ass, because she isn't that desperate.

 

 

This is true. I had a little HOT 20 year old coming to see me weekly and because of the attraction she only charged me $50 which really was for GAS and parking. So she basically was coming here for free while charging older men $400

[somedude81]

Unless a guy is a MONSTER I see no reason why he can't have sex for free

I assure you, I'm not a monster and I don't think Ross is either and we both struggle with women.

[musemaj11]

As liberal as I am, I view prostitution as an insult to a woman's dignity by the woman herself and anybody involved. So, anything related to prostitution seems wrong to me. The least wrong is probably buying what's offered on the market, so I don't judge men who use their services, but I would certainly not want to be with one of those men for many reasons. If the entire US legalized a thing like women selling sex for money, I think I'd seriously consider moving to a different country.

If gold digging is legal, why prostitution is not? There is hardly any difference between the two and out of all people you should very well know.

[cerridwen]

I assure you, I'm not a monster and I don't think Ross is either and we both struggle with women.

 

Yup.

Based on a pic I saw of somedude, and several of Ross, they're no monsters.

Both are very attractive.

Their challenges come from elsewhere.

[EasyHeart]

As a libertarian, I think prostitution should be legal. I don't think government power should be used to force one group's religious views on everyone else.

 

There was a chapter in "Freakonomics" (I think) about how sexual attitudes among single women (ie, being willing to have sex for free) has driven down the price for prostitution. Women used to be able to make a pretty good living from it, but now they can't. Other things have changed, too. A hundred years ago, oral sex was a specialty practiced by only a few highly paid courtesans. Now it's cheapest, basic sex act men can by from streetwalkers. (or get for free in the front seat of a car)

[cerridwen]

OP, I don't think there's something necessarily wrong about visiting an escort or a cathouse. Street walkers worry me a bit more because of violence, drug, and health issues.

[musemaj11]

I can't support prostitution, because I agree with most of RecordProducer's first paragraph above (I'm not sure I'd leave the country, plus I can't leave the state, much less the country, until my son turns 18).

 

And even if I didn't, I'd have still have doubts because even when it's legal, prostitution tends to attract crime. A couple of years ago, Amsterdam closed down a bunch of their legal brothels for having ties to organized crime and/or human trafficking. And isn't the whole purpose of legalization to break its ties to organized crime?

A lot of US farmers against the law employ underpaid undocumented Mexican slave labors.

 

I guess farming should be illegal too then?

[musemaj11]

Nope, nothing at all wrong with it. I've never visited one, but they're legal here and the price is around 50 eur for half an hour.

 

It's a simple exchange of services. She wants money and doesn't mind giving you sex for it, you want sex and don't mind giving her money for it. It's a trade between 2 adults, simple as that, and the rest of the world should mind their own business.

Are from the Netherlands?

 

A friend of mine went to Holland and visited the Red Light District and he told me that the 'courtesans' were unfortunately not the best looking.

[Shaun-Dro]

Unless a guy is a MONSTER I see no reason why he can't have sex for free

 

Nothing's free with women, Sherlock, and since women are just mere sex objects, particularly hot sexy ones, not the average and below average on the working clock trying to support her kids, you have to pay her up either way, so some prefer the direct approach without the BS.

[somedude81]

Thanks for the kind words cerridwen.

 

If only the "elsewhere" issue was fixable with a reasonable amount of effort.

 

OP, I don't think there's something necessarily wrong about visiting an escort or a cathouse. Street walkers worry me a bit more because of violence, drug, and health issues.

Yeah the streetwalkers are something that I would completely afford. That's really the bottom of the barrel. There are a lot of things wrong. I have never considered that route.

 

I don't like the idea of a cat-house either. Simply because the woman has to give a portion of her earnings to the owner. I saw about 10 minutes of the Tyra show where the girls of the mustang ranch or something and the bald white guy who ran it were the guests. One of the girls said that she has to give the guy 50% of her earning and in exchange he "promotes" her.

 

It would be much smarter for a girl to just promote herself online and keep all her profits. But of course that's illegal.

[Feelsgoodman]

It's only wrong in a sense that there's a much higher chance of catching an STD (and condoms do not provide 100% protection). A typical "professional" woman can have sex with as many as ten clients a day. That's nearly 4,000 different men a year! Even the most "sexually liberated" party girl would not come close to that.

 

If not for the risk of STDs and the social stigma associated with patronizing prostitutes, I suspect that most men these days would be relying on professional services.

[John Bigboote]

As liberal as I am, I view prostitution as an insult to a woman's dignity...

 

Here's what I think is an insult to a woman's dignity:

 

...by the woman herself and anybody involved.

How could any woman "really want it"? It can be voluntary but usually the decision arises from some horrible circumstances (or perhaps greed in some cases), not from choosing it as a career.

Presuming to tell a woman what she can and cannot want. I dare you to read anything by Brooke Magnanti and say that she didn't choose prostitution as a career of her own volition.

 

It's insulting and antifeminist to claim that there are some things that women just cannot want, or cannot choose, simply because you wouldn't want them or choose them and think they're icky.

 

Where do you draw the line?

Consent.

[PhillyDude]

Nothing's free with women, Sherlock, and since women are just mere sex objects, particularly hot sexy ones, not the average and below average on the working clock trying to support her kids, you have to pay her up either way, so some prefer the direct approach without the BS.

 

Let me explain it to you again so you will understand. In my early 20's, I met a girl off a telephone dating service and went to her house and we had sex. The next morning she made me breakfast. The only money I spent was the transortation to get to where she lived.

[RecordProducer]

Right now a woman can just accept the money and refuse sex if the guy pays first. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it except for give her a bad review on escort forums.

Or he could just beat her up, but in any case he won't get the sex so why waste his fist on her face and risk to be scratched and discovered by his lovely wife.

 

No offense but women think they are much more valuable than they really are.

You feel free to attach a price tag on your mother, wife, sister, daughter... In the meanwhile, I have absolutely no value since sex with me has always been free.

 

If sex was easier to get, women would lose one of their main bargaining tools. Wife withholding sex. Just go get a cheap hooker who would do things your wife doesn't do anymore.

Which, of course, men cannot do now, right?

 

Not everyone can get free pussy.

Why are you calling it *free* pussy? Is it about the money, are you too indigent to pay? Or is it because it's just generally difficult to find a suitable love/sex partner?

 

I can't find anyone I like and those I might like just don't hit on me. I am still not calling men "free dix" that I just can't get.

 

Finally, if you're not getting it, then it's not free. You can't afford it. Hookers, on the other hand, are at your disposal. If you think of a woman as a commodity, then pay for them just like you pay for your car insurance. It's not free, is it?