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26pointblue
I agree. And it's why I haven't posted in any of her threads. I think sometimes it's best just not to engage some posters on here and let their posting style say it all for them. LoL

 

So, I'll replace the word claiming with stating. Better? :p

 

I see. I have to admit I enjoy the comic relief. I can't get over vweb saying her MM has no legs, & now Mme. Chaucer saying 'neener neener neener' in response to Daisy's 'boo ya.' Whenever I think about both, I laugh, which is sometimes needed around here. ;)

 

Sadly I think Daisy is a real person but this latest update is either totally made up since hardly anyone on LS believed her MM will actually leave his wife, OR if there's any truth to it, her MM just wants a part-time loveshack [a real life loveshack ha ha] . . . I don't believe for a second that he is getting divorced & for that I feel bad for Daisy. I don't mean to make fun of her but I can't help laughing at immature phrases like 'boo ya' & it's obvious she doesn't want any help or advice anyway, so, I don't feel that bad for her.

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High fives to several posters.......for my laugh(s) of the day!

 

Anyway......Daisy, being the cynical person that I now am and now that I know just how pathologically twisted some men are in their lies..........I wouldn't believe any of it, until I saw some paperwork backing it up........AND I'd do a little undercover snooping of court records, re: real estate transactions, divorce papers filed, etc. They are public records....and you ought to be safe instead of sorry.

 

Anyway........as others have said, IF it's true, I seriously doubt you have won a prize.

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I did mention him not honoring this vows to his wife.

 

Odd how "we" think we are so damn special they would

NEVER hurt us.

 

I found out that what they do to their wives,they do to everyone around them.And I don't think either party "wins" when the MM chooses them.

Not even the BS wins if he stays with her.

 

Lacking character, morality or boundaries isn't something that changes relationship to relationship.

 

You're either integrity bound or not.

 

It's engrained in someone to the core.

 

I wouldn't boast too soon OP...you may need this place one day for support if/when he decides he's not READY to settle down with you as he is finally FREE from his marriage "shackles".

 

This isn't written with jealousy or bitterness it's written in personal experience and plenty of knowledge about the odds after years of reading ALOT more misery than happiness in regards to MM.

 

I found this years ago when I needed it, to remind me that I wasn't 'special" to him,just too accomodating and too trusting.

 

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/manipulator/special.shtml

 

Go head and deny it if you must.

 

I hope you never know what I know for fact

and what alot of OW's and BS's know.

 

I agree with you. I do think people can change & stop cheating but I also think it requires a lot of soul-searching, self-discovery, & desire to change . . . & it's usually too easy not to do that when the cheater jumps from one relationship to the next.

 

I used to become afraid that xMM would cheat on me because he had cheated on every other woman he'd ever been with, but when I asked him about it he used such stupid excuses, like, he'll be too old to cheat, I am finally the one who got him to settle down, or, I am so distrusting of him that I would find out in a second if he was cheating. Really there was nothing that had changed about his character so I do think he would cheat on me. Sadly at certain points I would have taken him but in the end I realized I'm better off without a cheater [not that it still doesn't hurt.] He admitted to being madly in love with his wife at one point & said she was a great wife & mother but something had happened with him where he just didn't feel the oomph for her anymore. He said she had gotten boring & too routine. That right there shows me it wasn't her fault & it wasn't her that had changed, it was his fault & something in him had never changed. :-(

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Some of them are acting as immature as they claim Daisy to be. :(

Perhaps, but they're doing it on purpose. :laugh:

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There is some great advice in this thread too -- Sadly, Daisy who isn't and wasn't here for any type of advice to begin with, will not come back to LS and admit on here in the future if things didn't work out with her MM. Nor will she "hear" what's been said to her today or in the recent past.

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There is some great advice in this thread too -- Sadly, Daisy who isn't and wasn't here for any type of advice to begin with, will not come back to LS and admit on here in the future if things didn't work out with her MM. Nor will she "hear" what's been said to her today or in the recent past.
And this is exactly what crosses my mind when I hear from a select few how they know about X number of A's which turned into successful R's. I'm sure there are MANY OW/OM who were ultra confident in their MP who refuse to eat crow. Kinda skews the stats. ;)
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And this is exactly what crosses my mind when I hear from a select few how they know about X number of A's which turned into successful R's. I'm sure there are MANY OW/OM who were ultra confident in their MP who refuse to eat crow. Kinda skews the stats. ;)

 

Exactly Mim. I have respect for those that seek support because they have gone the A path; and are concerned that the choice doesn't just affect themselves. These are the ones that get out one way or the other and don't turn fatal attraction.

 

Those that brag they got banged by a mm, or even a text (wow! big stuff) like they're doing something completely new in the world and it makes them special get none of my sympathy when it all explodes in their face. This one would never come back to admit she layed down with a pig; and even when he left his W he still rolls in sh*t.

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Like I said before, if she is real then she definitely needs to see a phychiatrist. I'm not even trying to be rude: adults shouldn't be acting like she is.

 

And if she is a troll, it's not like many posters are taking her seriously anyway.

 

My question wasn't about Daisy, it was about living with the consequences of being wrong in our replies, which is worse - a nice or a mean reply?

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My question wasn't about Daisy, it was about living with the consequences of being wrong in our replies, which is worse - a nice or a mean reply?

 

Neither situation is bad IMO. If you're nice to a troll, you're nice and the troll is still a troll. If you are mean to a poster who is telling a true story in the manner she is telling it, so what. If you read her posts, she just wants to brag and get in faces of others; and call them names even when they show supportive concern she's trusting the word of a liar. Even if the story is true as far as she percieves it, this MM is no more divorced than the first day she slept with him. Many couples R even after one files. Way to soon for a 'boo ya' was it?

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My question wasn't about Daisy, it was about living with the consequences of being wrong in our replies, which is worse - a nice or a mean reply?

 

No reply is wrong. Merely the thoughts and opinions of anonymous internet posters and, almost by definition, that cannot be wrong. However, there is a ToS which governs politeness and we have all agreed to it. In that sense, a reply may violate ToS (say tone or profanity) but the underlying message still be "not wrong".

 

What you REALLY mean is...what is the OP is real (she isn't) and our advice somehow drives her away from the only recourse she may have.

 

Well, 1) this isn't her only recourse. She can talk to friends, family, clergy, IC and so on. In fact, those are far BETTER than LS. By. A. Mile.

 

2) This OP is pure troll - and an entertaining one at that. So kudos.

 

How many real or genuine posters in this position would react as she? None, the real posters who do NOT get the support they want leave. Not hang around and post threads titled "boo ya" - a title designed to generate responses such as, well this thread.

 

A trolls real detriment is causing doubt in the minds of helpful posters. This MAY lead to false troll accusations which drive real posters away.

 

But I gotta say, DL is entertaining...I forget who it was but whoever replied with "neener neener neener" had me lol at the office today....lol...great!!

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No reply is wrong. Merely the thoughts and opinions of anonymous internet posters and, almost by definition, that cannot be wrong. However, there is a ToS which governs politeness and we have all agreed to it. In that sense, a reply may violate ToS (say tone or profanity) but the underlying message still be "not wrong".

 

What you REALLY mean is...what is the OP is real (she isn't) and our advice somehow drives her away from the only recourse she may have.

 

Well, 1) this isn't her only recourse. She can talk to friends, family, clergy, IC and so on. In fact, those are far BETTER than LS. By. A. Mile.

 

2) This OP is pure troll - and an entertaining one at that. So kudos.

 

How many real or genuine posters in this position would react as she? None, the real posters who do NOT get the support they want leave. Not hang around and post threads titled "boo ya" - a title designed to generate responses such as, well this thread.

 

A trolls real detriment is causing doubt in the minds of helpful posters. This MAY lead to false troll accusations which drive real posters away.

 

But I gotta say, DL is entertaining...I forget who it was but whoever replied with "neener neener neener" had me lol at the office today....lol...great!!

 

I still say she's a real OW & I feel bad for her. I read her post on The Other Woman board that was referenced/ linked here awhile ago . . . she admitted she wonders if she's keeping her MM happily married by being his thing on the side . . . & then she got her feathers all ruffled because another OW on that board told Daisy that Daisy's MM is probably not leaving since it's been 5 years & they have no kids. Daisy was upset because that woman had read the five years no kids detail on LS instead of TOW & Daisy didn't feel it was right to take the info from one board to another. [i may be misquoting/misidentifying some specifics but that was the gist of things as I understood them]. So I guess Daisy could be upset that people are following the specifics of her posts too closely & then figuring out she is a troll. But I really hadn't seen any inconsistencies in her posts which to me is the mark of a troll, so, I think she is real & she is hurt that no one believes her MM is leaving for her, so she either made this latest story up to tell us 'told you so,' or she's getting tired of waiting around on Prince Charming & put some pressure on him so he threw her a bone by buying a 'vacation house' aka Loveshack. I don't believe for a minute that he is getting divorced but I would believe he is making Daisy think that now that she is an unhappy OW. This is just my take on things but I do feel sorry for her because I don't think she's a troll although now she is doing some troll-like things because no one is clapping for her & her affair.

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There are two plausible scenarios where we can be misinterpreting the situation:

 

Daisy is real and we are mean to her.

 

Daisy is a troll and we are nice to her.

 

From which of these scenarios can we walk away with our head held high?

I'm not a troll but I'm not suprized by the answers. Typical for this place. I could be a troll and post a really sad story about my love dumping me and then everyone would be nice. I stayed away from here cuz only sad OW are welcome. On a pure whim I came back and nothing changed, just ppl still going on and on and on about how the married guy never leaves. I'm proof that that's just not true. He has taken a HUGE step and I am PROUD of him for it. The ppl who think I'm a troll weren't going to be supportive anyway no matter what.

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I saw the divorce papers ppl! No I didn't read them because it's his business I trust his word.

I don't care what you ppl say but the house he bought is his house. We aren't married yet so it doesn't bother me that my name isn't on it.

 

Alls I sayin is you ppl need a REALITY CHECK if you think the married person doesn't leave. I accept there will be bumps along the road but we are getting there and we are going to do it together.

 

And NO I don't feel sorry for BW. She is getting all she could want n more in the settlement so she will be FINE. She sees him less than I do and rumor has it she has her own sumptin sumptin going on. Not every BW is innocent!

 

Flame away ppl.

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I saw the divorce papers ppl! No I didn't read them because it's his business I trust his word.

I don't care what you ppl say but the house he bought is his house. We aren't married yet so it doesn't bother me that my name isn't on it.

 

Alls I sayin is you ppl need a REALITY CHECK if you think the married person doesn't leave. I accept there will be bumps along the road but we are getting there and we are going to do it together.

 

And NO I don't feel sorry for BW. She is getting all she could want n more in the settlement so she will be FINE. She sees him less than I do and rumor has it she has her own sumptin sumptin going on. Not every BW is innocent!

 

Flame away ppl.

 

What people are trying to tell you is that it is his AND HIS WIFE's house because he bought it while they were still married. It is the property of the marriage. If he was really getting divorced he would wait until then [or at least until a separation agreement with separate property stipulation is in place] to buy the house. Anybody with any common sense knows that, but you act like we're just here to poo poo all over you -- no, we're trying to get you to wake up!! If you don't want to listen to us that's your own fault, stop pointing the finger at everyone else, that's just so immature.

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I did mention him not honoring this vows to his wife.

 

Odd how "we" think we are so damn special they would

NEVER hurt us.

 

I found out that what they do to their wives,they do to everyone around them.And I don't think either party "wins" when the MM chooses them.

Not even the BS wins if he stays with her.

 

Lacking character, morality or boundaries isn't something that changes relationship to relationship.

 

You're either integrity bound or not.

 

It's engrained in someone to the core.

 

I wouldn't boast too soon OP...you may need this place one day for support if/when he decides he's not READY to settle down with you as he is finally FREE from his marriage "shackles".

 

This isn't written with jealousy or bitterness it's written in personal experience and plenty of knowledge about the odds after years of reading ALOT more misery than happiness in regards to MM.

 

I found this years ago when I needed it, to remind me that I wasn't 'special" to him,just too accomodating and too trusting.

 

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/manipulator/special.shtml

 

Go head and deny it if you must.

 

I hope you never know what I know for fact

and what alot of OW's and BS's know.

That link is FULLFULLFULL of pure HATE.

FTR, I don't think I'm special. I think our love is special.:love:I think WE are special TOGETHER.:love:

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I'm not a troll but I'm not suprized by the answers. Typical for this place. I could be a troll and post a really sad story about my love dumping me and then everyone would be nice. I stayed away from here cuz only sad OW are welcome. On a pure whim I came back and nothing changed, just ppl still going on and on and on about how the married guy never leaves. I'm proof that that's just not true. He has taken a HUGE step and I am PROUD of him for it. The ppl who think I'm a troll weren't going to be supportive anyway no matter what.

 

I for one am a very happy FOW. People aren't just hanging out to gone on about how it doesn't happen. What you are not taking in is that even when it happens, it rarely turns out well. If you truly believe it is all on track, why are you rubbing in others' faces? There are more OW here who would like a positive outcome for themselves. Why don't you wish them the best? Are you only thinking of yourself? Are you a person who only talks about yourself and wants focus on you but tunes out anything another might say that you don't like that isn't about you?

 

I said before, the MM is not D yet. Some couples R even after filing and even when an OW is all a ready for MM to be 'free'. He wasn't in chains when you were where ever you were that W didn't know. Is he in chains now? When he really looks at the expense of leaving, he's going to drop so much he worked for and choose someone who posts 'boo ya'? If that is his choice, I question how much he's achieved and if he's earned anything to loose anyway.

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There is some great advice in this thread too -- Sadly, Daisy who isn't and wasn't here for any type of advice to begin with, will not come back to LS and admit on here in the future if things didn't work out with her MM. Nor will she "hear" what's been said to her today or in the recent past.

I will definiteley come back if it doesn't work out. After all get with the I told you so's you might really be sweet to me.

 

It's cool. I said what I had to say. All of you can stick your heads back in the sand now. It won't change a thing between me and my love. I waited and so far it's been worth it! Another OW might want to wait to and never post because she knows what will happen here. It's ok with me. Ppl who believe in their love take their chances. I'm happy about this milestone and so I said so. :)

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I for one am a very happy FOW. People aren't just hanging out to gone on about how it doesn't happen. What you are not taking in is that even when it happens, it rarely turns out well. If you truly believe it is all on track, why are you rubbing in others' faces? There are more OW here who would like a positive outcome for themselves. Why don't you wish them the best? Are you only thinking of yourself? Are you a person who only talks about yourself and wants focus on you but tunes out anything another might say that you don't like that isn't about you?

 

I said before, the MM is not D yet. Some couples R even after filing and even when an OW is all a ready for MM to be 'free'. He wasn't in chains when you were where ever you were that W didn't know. Is he in chains now? When he really looks at the expense of leaving, he's going to drop so much he worked for and choose someone who posts 'boo ya'? If that is his choice, I question how much he's achieved and if he's earned anything to loose anyway.

I'm happy for anyone who is in love! Love is a great gift and I've been given the greatest gift of my life so far. Why is it bad to share that in contrast with all the doom and gloom here?

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I will definiteley come back if it doesn't work out. After all get with the I told you so's you might really be sweet to me.

 

It's cool. I said what I had to say. All of you can stick your heads back in the sand now. It won't change a thing between me and my love. I waited and so far it's been worth it! Another OW might want to wait to and never post because she knows what will happen here. It's ok with me. Ppl who believe in their love take their chances. I'm happy about this milestone and so I said so. :)

:bunny::bunny::bunny::bunny::bunny:Whooppppiiiieeee.

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I will definiteley come back if it doesn't work out. After all get with the I told you so's you might really be sweet to me.

 

It's cool. I said what I had to say. All of you can stick your heads back in the sand now. It won't change a thing between me and my love. I waited and so far it's been worth it! Another OW might want to wait to and never post because she knows what will happen here. It's ok with me. Ppl who believe in their love take their chances. I'm happy about this milestone and so I said so. :)

 

Yeah, and everyone else's heads are in the sand. Your's is clear. I'm curious if your point to posting your great transition is to cheer other OW to wait years, just in case? It's been pointed out many times you were never open to advise. You posted your certainty from what I understand and ended with 'boo ya'. Is it at all possible for you to see why not everyone here sees you entering a 'real adult' life with a not even yet un MM with your chosen communications?

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Daisy take your meds boo!:)

<Daisy raises champagne flute to Mimoliscious.> Love is the only drug I need boo! You should try it!;)

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<Daisy raises champagne flute to Mimoliscious.> Love is the only drug I need boo! You should try it!;)

 

 

Looks like daisy is realy taken care of in life. Whatever I helped my H settle sure wouldn't leave me time to brag or argue. D's MM is buying a new house and serving D papers on a holiday weekend. No moving of anything? Nothing for her to be done or papers for her to have time to look over as the next significant one.

 

It's clear there are not significant assests even if MM lives with Daisy anywhere. Don't start thinking you are going to live like Oprah. Neither of you have earned a castle. What you get, in addition to each other may not look so good in a very short time.

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<Daisy raises champagne flute to Mimoliscious.> Love is the only drug I need boo! You should try it!;)

 

 

Oh trust me, it's a great amazing thing. Especially the ones with no obstacles not just testicles. You should try one! (ones with no obstacles and alimony, I mean. Always go for the ones with testicles though!);)

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