Once a slut, always a slut?

[John Michael Kane]

This song matches this thread.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7ki9AViEw:laugh:

[Sanman]

To assign a mental disorder you should be qualified to know for sure that they have said mental disorder. To do so, they need to be a psych's patient and you need to be privy to their psych sessions.

I too could walk down the street ascribing various mental disorders to people based on very little knowledge too. But it would be speculation. Speculation is about as reliable as using birth signs to determine compatibility. Speculation isn't fact and correlation doesn't not equal causation. It won't even hold up in court! The check lists for mental disorders read long winded and are as vague as tarot cards. We're all bound to find something of ourselves in the symptom lists. Something that mirrors to some level some stage in our development. Take being impulsive with money. Who hasn't made an impulsive purchase? Does that mean we are all BPD cases? This is starting to sound like Betamanlet's post about a study of men in a psych ward having tattoos showing that tattoos indicated BPD. A study with no control group. A study of nothing but mental patients shows they have mental disorders and some of them have tattoos??!? Who'da thunk?

 

Pipe down Freud Jr. no one is paying you hourly to diagnose them for life based on what amounts to a snapshot look into their life.

 

Actually, that is exactly what they do, I'm a shrink. I routinely interview a person and diagnose them based on the information they give me. They even pay me for it. Thanks for playing though.

 

I never said everyone who exhibits a certain symptom has BPD. However, significant sexual impulsiveness can be suggestive of deeper issues, especially combined with other problems. These disorders are on a spectrum. There are many people that define some of these traits that have borderline personality characteristics but do not meet a clinical threshold. That still suggests an impulsive personality. Defend all you want, but the average woman is not jumping onto bed with a bunch of men she barely knows even today. Just because you bought a candy bar does not mean to spend impulsively. It must be a significant pattern of spending detrimental to one's financial well-being.

 

Let me ask you this...If promiscuity is so healthy and natural, why are these women trying to change? While you can argue all the points you want with me, I have never had any person walk in to my office (or anyone I even know of) and tell me that they are concerned because they are not promiscuous enough.

Edited June 3, 2011 by Sanman

[betterdeal]

To assign a mental disorder you should be qualified to know for sure that they have said mental disorder. To do so, they need to be a psych's patient and you need to be privy to their psych sessions.

 

Why abdicate all thinking to a new church? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I don't need a vet to tell me it's a duck. I consider my ex to have had a BPD. I consider myself to have had a PD. So what? These labels are not the end of the story. They are a guide to common sets of problems seen in people who seek help or are intervened with to preserve life.

 

The idea of these problematic ways of living as being because of maladaptive coping mechanisms - ways to react to harm that don't deal with the harm or cause more harm, and that the individual continues to do - is more interesting. It suggests there may be ways for the individual to live a happy life, free from serious harm, without intervention, by learning better coping mechanisms.

 

The less that people fear mental health, the more likely, IMO, that we will advance our mental health, as a whole. Thus someone of reasonable lucidity doing research, considering, and deciding , "yes, it's probably a cold / BPD / broken ankle / name your condition here", with a view to understanding more about something (rather than use it as a cudgeol) is better than hiding from mental health, perhaps hoping it will go away.

 

I know that BPD has been the "Big C" of the past 10-15 years, but just like cancer, a change in attitudes towards more openness and less stigma can make sufferers' lives much better, and increase successful recoveries too.

Edited June 3, 2011 by betterdeal

[rafallus]

Let me ask you this...If promiscuity is so healthy and natural, why are these women trying to change? While you can argue all the points you want with me, I have never had any person walk in to my office (or anyone I even know of) and tell me that they are concerned because they are not promiscuous enough.

 

If you are judgemental, they sense it and just not share those details with you.

 

All in all, actually I should be glad that so many guys are judgemental and have double standards in their heads. They are zero competition.

[donnamaybe]

Let me ask you this...If promiscuity is so healthy and natural, why are these women trying to change? While you can argue all the points you want with me, I have never had any person walk in to my office (or anyone I even know of) and tell me that they are concerned because they are not promiscuous enough.

It's not necessarily healthy or UNhealthy. You have to know the whole person before you can make that call. If they are desperately having sex with whoever will have them because they need validation at any cost, yes - that would be an emotionally unhealthy person. If they are secure in themselves but just aren't interested in a relationship but want to scratch that itch from time to time, that would be an emotionally healthy person.

[carhill]

All in all, actually I should be glad that so many guys are judgemental and have double standards in their heads. They are zero competition.

Another potential to consider is that those men who are 'judgmental' and have 'double standards' aren't shouting this from the rooftops as they wine and dine and bed such ladies; it is information which they keep to themselves as they assess the lady's appropriateness for a committed and monogamous relationship and marriage. Smart men know how to get laid and separate that from who they'll commit to emotionally and legally. Me, I'm not so smart

[ProjekctionMan]

Virgins want to be sluts.

Sluts want to be virgins.

 

The key is to be somewhere in the middle. Not celibate, but not a slut (male or female), either.

[Sanman]

It's not necessarily healthy or UNhealthy. You have to know the whole person before you can make that call. If they are desperately having sex with whoever will have them because they need validation at any cost, yes - that would be an emotionally unhealthy person. If they are secure in themselves but just aren't interested in a relationship but want to scratch that itch from time to time, that would be an emotionally healthy person.

 

Ahh, but scratching the occasional itch does not make one promiscuous. As I said earlier, there are other ways to get sex than through sleeping with multiple partners you are not familiar with. It is the highest risk behavior you can choose with regard to partners. Nor did I ever say all promiscuous women are a certain way. I simply said that evidencing such behavior increases the likelihood that you are with someone that may be impulsive and emotionally unstable.

 

People who are promiscuous are less likely to have stable relationships. People rarely choose to have extremely stable relationships in one area of life and extremely unstable relationships in another area.

Edited June 3, 2011 by Sanman

[rafallus]

Oh, we don't "not" sleep with them because of this, we "not" marry them, and "not" date them longterm, and as soon as -you- marry one of these women or get involved in a LTR with one, provided you don't cheat, it's -you- who cease to be competition.

Do take note however, that I haven't said anything about marrying! It's in fact the fatal flaw in your thought process. Edited June 3, 2011 by rafallus

[sally4sara]

Actually, that is exactly what they do, I'm a shrink. I routinely interview a person and diagnose them based on the information they give me. They even pay me for it. Thanks for playing though.

 

This is where the doubt of your word comes in. Therapist, psychiatrists, do not diagnose people with snap judgments. Many sessions would go into something like that. Look at the friggen title. You are the one drawing a line from the sexual promiscuity of random women (not specific women you know) to a mental disorder - one symptom. Claiming this occupation sounds like grasping straws when you're on here speculation about women you don't know having mental disorders based on one symptom you only suspect they exhibit. You said you aren't into "sluts" so I take that to mean you don't date them and if you suspect someone you just met to be one you stop getting to know them for dating purposes? Perhaps some women you dated was known to have this disorder and she was very promiscuous. That is but one woman. And if it is many women you dated, just what disorder is it if a man keeps being drawn to women with mental disorders?

If you're going by what others tell you about some newly known to you woman's sexual antics - HA!

 

I never said everyone who exhibits a certain symptom has BPD.

 

Did you read the title of the thread you're posting in? Its not about BPD. You have alluded to exactly that. Watch. You'll do it again....

 

However, significant sexual impulsiveness can be suggestive of deeper issues, especially combined with other problems. These disorders are on a spectrum. There are many people that define some of these traits that have borderline personality characteristics but do not meet a clinical threshold. That still suggests an impulsive personality. Defend all you want, but the average woman is not jumping onto bed with a bunch of men she barely knows even today. Just because you bought a candy bar does not mean to spend impulsively. It must be a significant pattern of spending detrimental to one's financial well-being.

 

Let me ask you this...If promiscuity is so healthy and natural, why are these women trying to change? While you can argue all the points you want with me, I have never had any person walk in to my office (or anyone I even know of) and tell me that they are concerned because they are not promiscuous enough.

 

Why does anyone decide to make a change. Maybe they noticed they were drawn to a set of characteristics in partners that wasn't serving them well and they take a dating hiatus to work on that? Maybe they just wanted to have some fun but are now thinking of a life that is better suited to a monogamous way of living and they feel they might as well start practicing only sleeping with one person to see if they're ready for such a relationship? Every new relationship starts out as an experiment because even if you have an ideal mold in mind, you don't know if they fit into it immediately. You won't know for a while. Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year's worth of semi serious dating before sex to make sure the next girl is "the one"?

I'm all for getting to know someone before you share your body with someone. It doesn't mean we each will always be able to wait out our desire long enough for every fraudulent person floating a fake image to make an appearance. Who hear can claim that? Is everyone who can't a slut? I bet that makes all the people bitching about sluts qualify for the term themselves. Tell me, are they all BPD cases?

[pureinheart]

Ahh, but scratching the occasional itch does not make one promiscuous. As I said earlier, there are other ways to get sex than through sleeping with multiple partners you are not familiar with. It is the highest risk behavior you can choose with regard to partners. Nor did I ever say all promiscuous women are a certain way. I simply said that evidencing such behavior increases the likelihood that you are with someone that may be impulsive and emotionally unstable.

 

People who are promiscuous are less likely to have stable relationships. People rarely choose to have extremely stable relationships in one area of life and extremely unstable relationships in another area.

 

I think it's just the general tone of this thread, which IMO extremely insults women. There were also some holier than thou posts coupled with major arrogance.

 

It's a known fact that compulsive sexual activity for most is a direct indication of some serious psychological issues. Some of these include, but are not limited to...children that have been sexually abused can grow up to have a distorted view of sex. Abandonment from a parent(s) can cause a person (both men and women) to seek "love" in forms that are not actually the love they need. Sexual addictions can be brought on by anything, sex is used as an escape.

 

Society has distorted "sexuality", creating extremes. Advertisements are geared towards men and concerning the female aspect, some women perceive sex as a form of gaining attention. The media is geared towards men promoting "sexuality"....because sex sells...look at the porn crap.

 

So guys, before you go cutting down women for being overly sexually active, please take a good look at your own back yard..quit contributing (buying porn in any form), and have some compassion for those that are in the extreme sexual situations, as their may be things that have happened to that individual to cause the extreme.

 

You know, just to add...I have always felt that I have to be thin in order to be attractive...why wasn't health emphasised more when I was growing up?

[carhill]

So guys, before you go cutting down women for being overly sexually active, please take a good look at your own back yard..quit contributing (buying porn in any form), and have some compassion for those that are in the extreme sexual situations, as their may be things that have happened to that individual to cause the extreme.

 

I agree. To wit, I canceled my subscription to Playboy (last paid porn) in 1991, prior to losing my virginity. All the women I had LTR's with and the one I was married to had, by their own admission, 'colorful' pasts. I walked the path, yet kept my sexual activities confined to LTR's and marriage. I did not judge but rather accepted those partners at face value. TBH, I do judge now, basically due to, as one LS'er now departed put it, 'my distastrous experiences with women'. Freud and insanity come to mind. At some point one has to try something different.

[pureinheart]

I want to add that in no way am I insinuating that all people that like to have sex a lot have "disorders".

 

I had a friend that was TOTALLY into sex. She had as much sex as she could daily. She ended up marrying at 17 yrs old her husband was a bit older, and they are married to this day, and I never heard of any infidelity. It's been about 40 years of marriage for them now. They have done well with their lives in all ways...she was always very financially stable.

 

I wanted to point out that compassion is sometimes in order....

[carhill]

The friend who married at 17 has been sexually monogamous for 40 years. She defines the antithesis of promiscuous behavior. She is highly sexed and evidently highly loyal to her H and M. That's a great success story, IMO.

[pureinheart]

I agree. To wit, I canceled my subscription to Playboy (last paid porn) in 1991, prior to losing my virginity. All the women I had LTR's with and the one I was married to had, by their own admission, 'colorful' pasts. I walked the path, yet kept my sexual activities confined to LTR's and marriage. I did not judge but rather accepted those partners at face value. TBH, I do judge now, basically due to, as one LS'er now departed put it, 'my distastrous experiences with women'. Freud and insanity come to mind. At some point one has to try something different.

 

Awwwww CH....you are the total best:)

 

I have found that the most judgemental and critical people I've known have the most to hide...meaning we all have a past, lol, some more colorful than others. I was more like you concerning the sex part...although if you have about a year, I'll tell you about all of the "other" stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got a whole bunch of crayons?

[MrNate]

Threads like this always go one forever. It's all just wasting breath.

 

This debate won't reach a conclusion because:

1. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, no matter how much they contrast with others. People rarely, if ever, change their opinions.

2. No one is right or wrong. Which, even then, is up to the individual.

 

With regards to extensive sexual history, I don't feel sorry for women nor men.

 

Women have the right to choose to sleep with/date whoever.

Men have the right to choose to sleep with/date whoever.

 

No one owes any one any thing or any explanation.

 

If threads like this show anything, is that we're much more animal-like than we perceive ourselves to be. Sometimes I think we give ourselves slightly too much credit as being 'much more evolved' than the primates. The fact that 'who sleeps with who threads' like these, which always go for 13+ pages, help to drive that belief. Maybe we should take our opinions about sex a couple (thousand) years back? (before all these labels were attached on either gender) we might just be better off.

[pureinheart]

You know what's really "holier than thou" and arrogant? Coming into the middle of a long thread where lots of very specific things have been and continue to be discussed about a specific topic, not discussing or responding to any of those things, but rather talking about totally off-topic things, porn and healthy weight for example, and then making the blanket statement that other posters are "holier than thou" and arrogant.

 

I addressed all aspects, which are all directly related, and if unhealthy applies to you, then have at it:)

[Sanman]

This is where the doubt of your word comes in. Therapist, psychiatrists, do not diagnose people with snap judgments. Many sessions would go into something like that. Look at the friggen title. You are the one drawing a line from the sexual promiscuity of random women (not specific women you know) to a mental disorder - one symptom. Claiming this occupation sounds like grasping straws when you're on here speculation about women you don't know having mental disorders based on one symptom you only suspect they exhibit. You said you aren't into "sluts" so I take that to mean you don't date them and if you suspect someone you just met to be one you stop getting to know them for dating purposes? Perhaps some women you dated was known to have this disorder and she was very promiscuous. That is but one woman. And if it is many women you dated, just what disorder is it if a man keeps being drawn to women with mental disorders?

If you're going by what others tell you about some newly known to you woman's sexual antics - HA!

 

 

 

Did you read the title of the thread you're posting in? Its not about BPD. You have alluded to exactly that. Watch. You'll do it again....

 

 

 

Why does anyone decide to make a change. Maybe they noticed they were drawn to a set of characteristics in partners that wasn't serving them well and they take a dating hiatus to work on that? Maybe they just wanted to have some fun but are now thinking of a life that is better suited to a monogamous way of living and they feel they might as well start practicing only sleeping with one person to see if they're ready for such a relationship? Every new relationship starts out as an experiment because even if you have an ideal mold in mind, you don't know if they fit into it immediately. You won't know for a while. Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year's worth of semi serious dating before sex to make sure the next girl is "the one"?

I'm all for getting to know someone before you share your body with someone. It doesn't mean we each will always be able to wait out our desire long enough for every fraudulent person floating a fake image to make an appearance. Who hear can claim that? Is everyone who can't a slut? I bet that makes all the people bitching about sluts qualify for the term themselves. Tell me, are they all BPD cases?

 

First off, you're wrong about dx. Diagnoses are largely based on a diagnostic interview/assessment, available medical/personal history, and maybe an interview with spouse or family member. 1-2hrs tops. Please show me an insurance company that will reimburse me for multiple sessions of therapy or medication without a diagnosis. They may be amended over time. That is why most diagnoses are considered provisional or differential. They are an educated clinician's best guess based on the evidence presented. Treatment is what takes time.

 

Second, I am not judging anyone. This entire conversation is about abstracts as no specific individual was the basis of the convo. You can show me a promiscuous woman without BPD and I can show you one with BPD (or sexual trauma, or abandonment issues, etc).

 

I did read the thread title and what I said was that a significant percentage of highly promiscuous women (Read: once a slut) may be suffering from mental health issues that continue through their lives and cause them to repeat these behaviors (Read: significant chance of those women always being sluts). Even with therapy and meds, many of these women continue to battle these issues for years while ruining relationships. I have seen some on fourth marriages.

 

Yes, one symptom of a mental health issue is more than no symptoms of a mental health issue. It is the exact same thing as if I said a significant percentage of binge/heavy drinkers are alcoholics when compared to those that drink in moderation or do not drink at all. I stand by both those statements.

 

Third, people her seem to be equating promiscuity with a healthy sexual appetite. Nothing is wrong with enjoying sex. Actually, many promiscuous women do not enjoy sex and many women who enjoy sex manage to do so without being promiscuous.

 

You talk about every new relationship being an experiment. Who is talking about relationships? I mentioned ONS and impulsive sex, which really just explore genitalia and the possibility of orgasm. I love how I either have to wait 6-12 months or do it immediately. There is a middle ground and I know plenty of women who enjoy sex and have managed to navigate that. They don't rack up the numbers that promiscuous women do.

 

Who said these women are newly known to me or that I have dated all of them. I have friends and I have patients. I do leave a woman who is not a good long term fit when I discover it because that enables me to find another woman who may be a good fit. Staying in a dysfunctional relationship and hoping it gets better is unhealthy. As for me, I have been getting to know a wonderful woman long distance for 3 months without sex. She is moving closer for work in a few weeks and we will see how things go.

[rafallus]

Another potential to consider is that those men who are 'judgmental' and have 'double standards' aren't shouting this from the rooftops as they wine and dine and bed such ladies; it is information which they keep to themselves as they assess the lady's appropriateness for a committed and monogamous relationship and marriage. Smart men know how to get laid and separate that from who they'll commit to emotionally and legally. Me, I'm not so smart

Oh, it totally shows.

 

You may think you hide your internal views, so no one has even the slightest idea of your scrutiny towards girls who enjoy sex more openly, but somehow those views leak out. Be it by body language, one misplaced comment, condescending look, whatever... And the girl is taking notes.

 

I didn't make the inaccurate claim that men who won't form marriages or LTRs with promiscuous women aren't "competition" for men who will, you did. As carhill also points out, your original statement was a nonstarter.

And you "straw man" marriage into argument where I said nothing of sorts. You both didn't rebuke anything, just twisted version of my argument with m-word forcibly inserted to make yourself look better.

 

You realize we are talking about "promiscuous" women right, women who have lots of sex impulsively and -indiscriminately-?

Glad you mentioned "indiscriminately" part, because I'm yet to even meet such woman. You mean nymphos? That's an actual disorder, y'know. Whereas, many girls discredited by others as prudes, do actually have quite a wild side. Not like being judgemental will let you find out though...

 

there are many women in the world who don't particularly mind that men have sex with promiscuous women outside relationships. They accept the key sexual differences between men and women, and have no problem with them as long as men are loyal while in a relationship and are disease free.

Their choice, no? Same for men.

 

I think it's just the general tone of this thread, which IMO extremely insults women. There were also some holier than thou posts coupled with major arrogance.

And this is exactly why I wrote that part about judgemental guys being no competition. And response that post received proved my point in spades. Edited June 3, 2011 by rafallus

[Queen Zenobia]

Glad you mentioned "indiscriminately" part, because I'm yet to even meet such woman. You mean nymphos? That's an actual disorder, y'know.

 

Surely you have met women who have had sex with plenty of people they weren't in a relationship with. One night stands, casual flings, that sort of thing? If someone has a long string of those I would say they're clearly having sex "indiscriminately".

[carhill]

Oh, it totally shows.

 

So, put on your glasses and re-read my posts. *Every* woman I've had sex with *and* the woman I married had promiscuous pasts. I did not. Engage your brain before drumming on the keyboard.

[sally4sara]

First off, you're wrong about dx. Diagnoses are largely based on a diagnostic interview/assessment, available medical/personal history, and maybe an interview with spouse or family member. 1-2hrs tops. Please show me an insurance company that will reimburse me for multiple sessions of therapy or medication without a diagnosis. They may be amended over time. That is why most diagnoses are considered provisional or differential. They are an educated clinician's best guess based on the evidence presented. Treatment is what takes time.

 

Provisional? You mean serving only for the time being Temporary? Subject to change? Oh I get it. You mean you're a quack.

Differential? You mean depending on OTHER FACTORS. You mean it might be this? You mean stabbing in the dark and hoping you get it right so you can move on to charging for treatment of said diagnosis that MAY be right depending on other factors yet determined. Did someone let ducks in here?

Please remember we are not talking about women in any therapy sessions YOU sit in unless you are dating your patients. Stop dating your patients. Problem with women with BPD solved.

 

Second, I am not judging anyone. This entire conversation is about abstracts as no specific individual was the basis of the convo. You can show me a promiscuous woman without BPD and I can show you one with BPD (or sexual trauma, or abandonment issues, etc).

 

I did read the thread title and what I said was that a significant percentage of highly promiscuous women (Read: once a slut) may be suffering from mental health issues that continue through their lives and cause them to repeat these behaviors (Read: significant chance of those women always being sluts). Even with therapy and meds, many of these women continue to battle these issues for years while ruining relationships. I have seen some on fourth marriages.

 

Yes, one symptom of a mental health issue is more than no symptoms of a mental health issue. It is the exact same thing as if I said a significant percentage of binge/heavy drinkers are alcoholics when compared to those that drink in moderation or do not drink at all. I stand by both those statements.

 

Third, people her seem to be equating promiscuity with a healthy sexual appetite. Nothing is wrong with enjoying sex. Actually, many promiscuous women do not enjoy sex and many women who enjoy sex manage to do so without being promiscuous.

 

You talk about every new relationship being an experiment. Who is talking about relationships? I mentioned ONS and impulsive sex, which really just explore genitalia and the possibility of orgasm. I love how I either have to wait 6-12 months or do it immediately. There is a middle ground and I know plenty of women who enjoy sex and have managed to navigate that. They don't rack up the numbers that promiscuous women do.

 

Who said these women are newly known to me or that I have dated all of them. I have friends and I have patients. I do leave a woman who is not a good long term fit when I discover it because that enables me to find another woman who may be a good fit. Staying in a dysfunctional relationship and hoping it gets better is unhealthy. As for me, I have been getting to know a wonderful woman long distance for 3 months without sex. She is moving closer for work in a few weeks and we will see how things go.

 

The point is a great many people hide who they are and while one might be looking for this (something serious) the other is looking for that (something not) but isn't going to tip their hat to that. I don't believe you can really know anyone for at least 6 months. Who here of us can say we have such fortitude as to wait our desire out so long when we think we see what we've been looking for?

As well you ask who is talking about relationships? Have you been reading? Sluts are bad for relationships. As you put it, it sucks for you that they are in your dating pool. If you're not dating to find a relationship you're a slut. At which point someone like you will come along and tell us all about how sluts (notice no instruction on what is and isn't a "slut' to aid the audience; just let it hang out there for more speculation) are women and double bad cuz they gots mental disorders. M'kay?

[Sanman]

OK, since you have outed yourself, was wondering why you chose BPD over HPD as the PD to cite in this thread? Is HPD discredited as a true PD now? or is BPD perceived as being more pervasive or entails more social costs? Is the cluster disorder viewed as primarily BPD related but containing HPD elements, so just generally referred to as BPD now? How do you think the DSM V will change, if at all, how promiscuity is weighted in diagnoses? Will the entire taxonomy of PDs change? If it does, will any of the change be due to feminist influence in the field in your opinion?

 

Just curious, as dated two in a row in 2006-2007, both met on match, the only women with true PDs I've ever dated. The first short term, the second one wrecked me pretty bad, as was very high functioning and undiagnosed for BPD (but diagnosed for several other things, bulimia, GAD, some other thing I hadn't heard of and can't remember), so I didn't really put all the pieces together until I was admittedly codependent or near to it.

 

 

There is actually significant overlap between BPD and HPD (histrionic personality disorder). They are both Cluster B disorders and it is often a toss up to some degree. Within clinical circles we often refer toit as simply cluster B personality traits. The DSM has tried to make a clearer distinction in the last two iterations. I would not be suprised if these two are combined in some way in the DSM V. BPD has significantly better current research behind it and statistically affects women 3 times as often as men (men are much more likely to suffer from ASPD). HPD has largely fallen out of favor in current teaching. It is really more about politics and what was current when you trained than huge significant differences.

Edited June 3, 2011 by Sanman

[sally4sara]

Wouldn't a quack claim that his diagnoses are absolutely correct the first time 100% of the time, as opposed to admitting that it takes time to reach a proper diagnosis, that a margin of error is necessarily involved, and that it isn't an exact science?

 

Not if they move on to treating said diagnosis. Are you willing to take a bunch of meds based on what someone THINKS is wrong with you? Are you going to take advise on how to correct what someone THINKS is your problem?

 

If so cool. I think you're a dead language. Take these pills.

[Sanman]

Provisional? You mean serving only for the time being Temporary? Subject to change? Oh I get it. You mean you're a quack.

Differential? You mean depending on OTHER FACTORS. You mean it might be this? You mean stabbing in the dark and hoping you get it right so you can move on to charging for treatment of said diagnosis that MAY be right depending on other factors yet determined. Did someone let ducks in here?

Please remember we are not talking about women in any therapy sessions YOU sit in unless you are dating your patients. Stop dating your patients. Problem with women with BPD solved.

 

 

 

The point is a great many people hide who they are and while one might be looking for this (something serious) the other is looking for that (something not) but isn't going to tip their hat to that. I don't believe you can really know anyone for at least 6 months. Who here of us can say we have such fortitude as to wait our desire out so long when we think we see what we've been looking for?

As well you ask who is talking about relationships? Have you been reading? Sluts are bad for relationships. As you put it, it sucks for you that they are in your dating pool. If you're not dating to find a relationship you're a slut. At which point someone like you will come along and tell us all about how sluts (notice no instruction on what is and isn't a "slut' to aid the audience; just let it hang out there for more speculation) are women and double bad cuz they gots mental disorders. M'kay?

 

 

Oh lord, I'm done talking to you. First I am a liar and now I am quack. All dx are provisional given the fact that you cannot PROVE that someone definitively suffers from a specific mental disorder. Nor are all mental disorders clearly defined currently.

 

Yes, it sucks that people attempt to put up fronts rather than be honest in dating. However, you were attempting to suggest that promiscuous women are simply unlucky in relationships. Not really what was said.

 

Anyway, I don't want to take anymore time away from your communal family recreational heroin use. Because we all know heroin never leads to anything bad.