CurlyIam Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 YEah, yeah... Go puke... By the way,in which category do you enter in "people", "other people","most people"?!? Link to post Share on other sites
jewler Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Oh, please let me explain. By most people , i am usually referring to the French!!! Also, narcisstic materialistic A-holes are never worth anything. For myself, I know my self worth, and don't give a tinkers damn what you or anyone else thinks. I know that I would never be so materialistic as to tell my spouse that the ring or gift which I received from her was so beneath me. Perhaps the initial problem presented in this thread is a true compliment. He might be implying that his first wife was a materialistic hag. I always thought that in true love, giving always gave you more pleasure than receiving. Engaged implys that the ring doesnt really matter , yet she not only looks the "gift horse" in the mouth, she wants an autopsy. Lets start a new trend right now---LADIES---why dont you buy the guy a ring?? Then he can have something to bitch about when its not up to his standards. But maybe that would be impossible, because NO WOMAN COULD EVER PAY WHAT A GOOD MAN IS WORTH!!!! Now go surrender to the Germans!! Link to post Share on other sites
Fedup&givingup Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by moimeme Well, this is very sad. I submit to you that many of the respondents in this thread have never really loved someone. That you have the good fortune that a person you value and esteem should value and esteem you back is the prize. There is nothing greater than that, and looking for monetary confirmation of that esteem cheapens that treasure. Love is not about demanding to receive. It is about desiring to give. And I feel that this is a very poor judgement that is incorrectly evaluated. I DO know what love is. Just because my values are not your values, that my standards are not your standards, in no way makes you right and me wrong, and vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites
Fedup&givingup Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by sonofhud Well, I'm glad there are women out there who agree with me! Like I said, there are women who have called me sexist for saying stuff like this. There probably are many women who just stay home to be lazy, but if the house is clean and theres a warm meal, what can I complain about? I remember as a kid, my mom would stay home and take care of us during the day and work at night. Every day me and my sister would wait at the door for our dad to come home. My parents ended up splitting up when I was in high school so I guess you could say those were the most fond memories of my childhood, having my mom there to take care of us. I know what you mean, about thinking this is sexist. It's hardly the case, IMO. It makes for a good family life, really. And taking care of the home and the family is VERY much a full time job. It's rewarding, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Fedup&givingup Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by dyermaker I think even if he bought you a six-carat tiffany ring, it wouldn't change the nature of his personality. What does this have to do with anything? Link to post Share on other sites
Fedup&givingup Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by bella8464 Hud..it is so hard to find a man that feels this way. Most men view women as lazy if they want to stay home and raise the kids. I, for sure, would love to stay home with the kids. Before I have kids, of course I would work my butt off to save money to allow me to have this opportunity. And when my kids get to a certain age thay they no longer need to come home to mommy after school, then I'm going back to work. But during those important childhood years, my kids are not going to daycare nor are they coming home to a babysitter. There is nothing wrong with that of course of you can't afford it, but as much as I can, I want to be there for them in every way possible. To me, no job is more important than that of being a mother. You are a rare man, Hud... Rare, but also I feel that he's a "real" man. Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Fedup&givingup Rare, but also I feel that he's a "real" man. No *real* Scottsman... Originally posted by Fedup&givingup What does this have to do with anything? I've more than explained it. Link to post Share on other sites
CurlyIam Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by jewler Oh, please let me explain. By most people , i am usually referring to the French!!! Also, narcisstic materialistic A-holes are never worth anything. For myself, I know my self worth, and don't give a tinkers damn what you or anyone else thinks. I know that I would never be so materialistic as to tell my spouse that the ring or gift which I received from her was so beneath me. Perhaps the initial problem presented in this thread is a true compliment. He might be implying that his first wife was a materialistic hag. I always thought that in true love, giving always gave you more pleasure than receiving. Engaged implys that the ring doesnt really matter , yet she not only looks the "gift horse" in the mouth, she wants an autopsy. Lets start a new trend right now---LADIES---why dont you buy the guy a ring?? Then he can have something to bitch about when its not up to his standards. But maybe that would be impossible, because NO WOMAN COULD EVER PAY WHAT A GOOD MAN IS WORTH!!!! Now go surrender to the Germans!! Hey, jewler, mighty defensive your post there... it's so strange that after living almost one year among the French, I still can't tell whethear they're materialis or narcisistic. I spent quite a wonderful week-end with one of them and found the experience ... charming. But you would know better, right since... you know what you're talking about and are able to stand behind your affirmation, am I correct? Or NOT? FACTS please My question was about value, your value compared to what you think you are worth it. Besides throwing with sterotype into nations,you are able to make an analysis of yourself - hope the word "analysis" doesn't 'cause too much of a problem to you. Not because of the meaning, but because of the profound process it implies. 'Cause you did do that before starting to putting people into categories... You also must know of psychology too since you've been so able to know after a few posts about "people"s value. So... excuse me for repeating myself, but it seems you failed to answer my question. Qouting your previous post, where do you enter in "people", "other people","most people"?!? As for your last kind invitation, I could just as well be German, so, my dear stranger, what else am I supossed to say but "you mist this one"! Link to post Share on other sites
shortbus74 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I feel your pain on this matter.... my future husband was married before and I have heard the stories... I sometimes feel that he misses the life that he once had with her.. In their divorce she pretty much got everything.... (house, cars,ect....ect.) Because of my own insecurities and a messy marriage that ended in divorce I feel like I am competing with a life that he once had.. I feel like he proposed to me because I finally called him on it...(everyday he asked me to marry him and I finally told him when you buy me a ring..............he finally did) It is hard not to feel like you are 'second best" when you feel some what "cheated" Good luck and I hope this helps..................... Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrannaste Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by jewler Lets start a new trend right now---LADIES---why dont you buy the guy a ring?? Possibly, at a sexy-shop. Link to post Share on other sites
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