Sweetheartt Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hey I went into macys today after school to check out the kim kardashian perfume and one of the sales guys approached me wanting to help so I let him, but he got really persistent like he wanted to make a big sell lol then he started asking me questions like how old I am (19) and if I come here a lot and if I gotta bf. I told him I wasn't seeing anyone special and thats when he handed out his biz card and told me to call him tonight and how he's such a nice guy and how girls dont really appreciate nice guys like they say, yada yada. I took the card but I didn't call him yet lol. Idk, he's kinda cute I guess but the way he kept saying how he'll treat me right and how nice he is kinda bugged me because I never had a guy do that should I worry??? Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) You can either seek advice on loveshack or you can give him a call and go on a few dates with him to find out. You make the choice. I never met him so you're asking an impossible question. Maybe he's a pick-up artist, or maybe he's sincere and thought you were sweet and beautiful. But how will you ever know if you don't dial those digits on your cell phone? Just answer my question, how will you ever REALLY KNOW if you don't go out with him? Tick tock tick tock tick tock............??????? Edited June 22, 2011 by youngskywalker Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 In my opinion, the label "nice" is something given to you by other people, not something you give yourself. I tend to kind of frown at calling oneself this or that. The fact that he kind of ranted to you about girls not appreciating nice guys is a bit weird. It's something you would expect here on LS, but not "in the wild" so to speak. Also the "I'll treat you right" thing kind of gives me a weird vibe. Who says that? That's a major promise if you think about it, yet an awkward one to make. "I'll treat you right (babe)." Comes across as a bit corny in my opinion. Also the fact that he was really persistent in making a sell, even though he seemed to like you seems kind of weird. Not a very positive assessment at first glance, yet I don't know, it isn't a whole lot of information to go by. If you do call him, tread carefully, go on dates to public places and don't have sex too quickly. That way you can kind of sense how long the guy is willing to hold out for you and if he lives up to his words. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I've yet to meet a single person, male or female who claims to be nice, who's honestly nice. And someone who pulls the "I'm so nice" victim routine, is someone to seriously watch out for! Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) I don't disagree with any of the above posts but what's the harm in calling him? Go out on a few dates and don't have sex/make out with him if you're unsure about his sincerity. If you don't feel comfortable then you could go on group dates and not be alone with him. If you're not up for any of that then just don't call him and move on. I don't see that harm in testing the waters. Just be wise enough to bail at the very first sign that he's a player. Edited June 22, 2011 by youngskywalker Link to post Share on other sites
O'Malley Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) As others have said, genuinely nice people rarely refer to themselves in that manner. It's what everyone else generally says about them. The whole "girls don't really appreciate nice guys like they say" blather would have make me cautious as well. It sounds like too much of a hard sell. Edited June 22, 2011 by O'Malley Link to post Share on other sites
bikinibeach Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 from my experience, when someone gives you unsolicited, passionate and insistent information about themselves. it is because people tell them they are the opposite. example: my ex and i were having a regular everyday conversation and he just kind of randomly brought up a few really weird topics. ie: me: "yeah we could go to that one. i'm not sure about sequels but it got good ratings on IMDB?" him: "yeah, okay that sounds good. BY THE WAY, I'M NOT CRITICAL ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. i'm the most UNcritical person you will ever meet." me: ".................ummmmmm.... should I book the tickets for 8" then? him: "no, do 9:30. BY THE WAY I'm also definitely NOT a mama's boy!!!!!" an exaggerated version but not too far off. also, who hits on people at work? unprofessional. if you do decide to meet him, make it coffee shop, broad daylight and block your number when you call. Link to post Share on other sites
bikinibeach Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 oh and ps, just to clarify, and i kid you not, he turned out to be THE MOST critical and biggest mama's boy i have ever dated in. my. LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! no lie Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetheartt Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 As others have said, genuinely nice people rarely refer to themselves in that manner. It's what everyone else generally says about them. The whole "girls don't really appreciate nice guys like they say" blather would have make me cautious as well. It sounds like too much of a hard sell. This is what Im thinking lol. I told my friend & sister about it. They both said just drop the loser right after I brought up the nice guy statement so Im kinda figuring he might be a player that says that junk to lots of girls in macys on a reg basis. Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 This is what Im thinking lol. I told my friend & sister about it. They both said just drop the loser right after I brought up the nice guy statement so Im kinda figuring he might be a player that says that junk to lots of girls in macys on a reg basis. If he is a player, then he's a wannabe player. Real players are able to get girls without paying one bit attention to them, i.e. they can get girls bouncing off the walls over them by ignoring them. Players also tend to disrespect women in every way possible, this guy said he wanted to treat you right. I think a real player would have laughed his @ss off at such a comment. Players also don't need favorable environments like Macey's to pick up girls, because they tend to be very social animals that can do it anywhere any time. Don't get me wrong, I don't think highly of player's tactics and motives, but this is what I happen to know from experience with them and what they do does work. When women think a guy is a player, then he's probably not, because if that was the vibe players gave off, then they would not sleep with so many women from all walks of life. Link to post Share on other sites
westrock Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I agree with EMR, youngskywalker and Nexus One. Yes, he could be a player in nice guy's clothing... but then again, maybe he really is a nice guy? It seems he at least showed interest in you. Only way to find out if he's genuine is to talk further with the guy and then observe his actions in how he treats you. Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 The people who posted to you are just critical because of their past experiences. I think you should proceed and call this guy. If you don't feel comfortable then most certainly don't be alone with him at any time. At the first red flag, bail. Some guy telling you he is nice might be a player, but if you think that, you're making a generalization. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 why would a guy claim to be so "nice"? Simple.. to separate you from your panties..... Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think you should proceed and call this guy. It certainly can't hurt.. and just beware that he will be moving fast.. trying to close the deal so to speak... Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It certainly can't hurt.. and just beware that he will be moving fast.. trying to close the deal so to speak... Agreed, which is precisely why I said not to be alone with him and go on a group date... keeping in mind she's 19 y/o. There are many ways to feel this guy out and see what he is made of. One that won't work is never trying! OP, just call the guy and set up a date that is among other friends. Do a few group dates to see if he is a genuine nice guy. He will bail for sure after the third date if he isn't. Or else just write him off right now. Either way is cool. Link to post Share on other sites
bikinibeach Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 can i just add that you don't have to call a guy just because he gave you his phone number??? i mean, you don't seem all that interested or excited. sure it might be flattering but if a) your first impression made you feel uneasy b) you're not dying to call him then why bother?? Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 i mean, you don't seem all that interested or excited. Obviously she's interested if she took the time and thought to post a thread on an internet forum. He tripped her trigger one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetheartt Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Obviously she's interested if she took the time and thought to post a thread on an internet forum. He tripped her trigger one way or another. No I was just a little confused about his approach to me thats all. Im not gonna call him. I read some of the posts on here and I like the ones saying he might be up to no good so Im bailing now lol. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 My husband said he was nice and he really is nice. Generalizations from a bitter woman, eh?The worst case of hypocrisy I've ever experienced of someone calling themselves "nice" was a hag of a woman who kept telling the world how nice she was and yet, she cheated on her husband, claimed victimhood from the OM, ran around the Internet site we both belonged to, stalking and reporting other members she disliked. Am I bitter? Not really. Just disgusted by people like that who are comfortable lying and cheating while maintaining a social "nice" face. So very glad my husband never claimed he was nice. It would have been a major red flag to me! Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_K Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 he handed out his biz card and told me to call him tonight and how he's such a nice guy and how girls dont really appreciate nice guys like they say, yada yada. If he's a player, he's a really REALLY bad one. 'Nice' is what no player whatsoever wants girls to think of him. 'Nice' is the kiss of death to passion and sex. Nice is how girls describe the guy they don't want to jump but would feel guilty saying anything bad about. The ones that get to 'be friends'. A player wants to be seen as hot, fun, sexy, cool, adventurous, exciting, or whatever. Because these are the guys that get the action. His speech sounds to me FAR more like the bitter 'nice guy' speech about how women always go for the bad boys whilst nice guys like himself get ignored and friendzoned, etc. If you think he's cute, why not meet up with him and find out so we see. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Link to post Share on other sites
tigressA Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Every single guy like that who I've met has turned out to be among the biggest a**holes I've ever had the misfortune to know. One of them is an ex who emotionally abused and cheated on me. Like others have said, if he feels he has to say he's such a nice guy...he very likely is the opposite. I would avoid him. Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 What i've noticed, esp. when it comes to advice given about someone's recent encounter with a prospect such as this one. The posters here are rather BIASED in their responses....and can't really be taken to heart. A lotof times I hear, "Don't even bother with him, what a weirdo or looser" A self-defeatest attitude. Seems the people giving the advice want the poster to be just as miserable as they are. If they don't have a date on a Sat night, these 2 people should not either and be browing sites such as this. lol Link to post Share on other sites
youngskywalker Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 if he feels he has to say he's such a nice guy...he very likely is the opposite. There is a word for that in the english language... humility. I'm starting to see that she made the right choice of not calling him. Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 There is a word for that in the english language... humility. I'm starting to see that she made the right choice of not calling him. Rather silly choice in not calling him, why not calling based on what he said in dialogue I'm starting to figure out why people wind up single most of their lives, they find any reason to not go out with anyone. LOL!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetheartt Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Every single guy like that who I've met has turned out to be among the biggest a**holes I've ever had the misfortune to know. One of them is an ex who emotionally abused and cheated on me. Like others have said, if he feels he has to say he's such a nice guy...he very likely is the opposite. I would avoid him. Yes Im avoiding him totally! I threw away the biz card & I have go back in to macys this evening w/ my mom because she wants to see if something she saw the other day is still on sale uggghhh! Link to post Share on other sites
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