Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Again? It's a daily thought. Just on some days it's suppressed better than others. Right now this girl is my only hope. And when things fail with her, that will be it. I'm tired of meeting new girls and getting nowhere with them. I will be thirty in two months. I've had enough. I have no hope at all that things will be better 5, 10 or 15 years from now. I'm done trying. The only thing that keeps me going is the random pat on the head I get from her. Sooner or later, even that will stop. Or I'll finally accept that it will never get past that. 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. -Alfred Lord Tennyson There are so many things I have never experienced, things that I most likely never will. Your answers are not enough. I have heard, "get rich and learn game" a thousand times. I have tried many things and all have failed. You are right about that. I hate myself and this world. I feel as if I never belonged here. And nobody will miss me. Unfortunately my immediate family will, and that's the only reason I haven't done anything. But beyond them, nobody gives a sh*t about me. As I said before, I'm going to turn 30 in two months. Most likely I will be by myself on that day. The most I can expect is a phone call from my parents and some Facebook posts. How pathetic is that? Honestly, this thread was not actually aimed at you. It was aimed more towards the men who make thread after thread about how 'advantageous' things are for women, how society screws men over, and nitpicking on the smallest, silliest 'disadvantages' of being a man that they can ever conceive. Like paying for coffee on a first date, geez. Seriously, unless they're going out on 10 first dates a month (in which case they probably suck at retaining women), I probably spend more on tampons and vibrators. I do genuinely feel sympathy for you. I just don't know how to help you. Chin up. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 I would think there is something wrong with a woman who goes on ten first dates a month for most of her life as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Being a woman would be a treat! All I'd have to do is switch my force field off one in a while. And if I was fat or ugly... that's what surgery is for. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Being a woman would be a treat! All I'd have to do is switch my force field off one in a while. And if I was fat or ugly... that's what surgery is for. No one found the joke funny the first time. I doubt it'll work the second time around. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) ...and there you go again, you said nothing about any "most of her or his life" before, but instead of just agreeing with the not controversial point that men paying for early dates in the U.S. today amounts to much more than "a few coffees" and backing off your unreasonable initial statement a bit, you try to shift reality and maintain a position that would annoy most any man who is out there dating. I just broke up with a 7 year GF for doing the exact same thing (and her personality change over the last year). Next you will say "it's a man's choice whether to pay or not and if he doesn't like it he shouldn't pay," and I will respond with "society and many many women expect men to pay for more than a few coffees in dating" stretching out an exchange needlessly because you are unwilling to simply admit that summing up male dating expense as "just a few coffees" was a bit unreasonable to begin with. In other words the discussion style you and others are engaging in is as responsible for keeping men "whining" on net forums as anything else. ...So if you're only paying for a few first dates occasionally instead of 'most of your life', why the **** would you be complaining about paying for first dates???? But seriously. What do you think about my list of 'disadvantages of being a woman'? Would you call it whining if I posted thread after thread after thread of them? But of course, paying for a meal that you can CHOOSE to make a coffee and CHOOSE not to pay for is worse than everything I listed, right? There's GIGS for you. Bloody hell, I'd gladly pay for the bloody first dates if it meant I never needed to go through periods, fluctuating hormones and menopause. Seriously. Edited July 3, 2011 by Elswyth Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Honestly, this thread was not actually aimed at you. It was aimed more towards the men who make thread after thread about how 'advantageous' things are for women, how society screws men over, and nitpicking on the smallest, silliest 'disadvantages' of being a man that they can ever conceive. Like paying for coffee on a first date, geez. Seriously, unless they're going out on 10 first dates a month (in which case they probably suck at retaining women), I probably spend more on tampons and vibrators. I do genuinely feel sympathy for you. I just don't know how to help you. Chin up. Dinner dates are still the expected normal. Besides... it isn't the money... it's more the principle. I don't really mind paying for dates... I want fairer divorce and child support laws. Whoever said earlier that you can't put a price on raising a kid is flat out wrong. The state does it every day when they mail out checks for foster kids. No man or woman should pay more than the state for child support. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Dinner dates are still the expected normal. Besides... it isn't the money... it's more the principle. I don't really mind paying for dates... I want fairer divorce and child support laws. Whoever said earlier that you can't put a price on raising a kid is flat out wrong. The state does it every day when they mail out checks for foster kids. No man or woman should pay more than the state for child support. Shall we not let this degenerate into a discussion on dinner vs coffee and men paying? The fact remains that, as ridiculous as it sounds, there are men on these forums who whine about paying for coffee on a first date. If it's the principle that matters, just don't do it. Bit silly to take a stand on a principle, then break your own principle due to 'societal expectations' and then whine about your sex being disadvantaged because of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Els Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 Ironic thing is that this thread just elicited more whining, despite the count of men being willing to swap positions with a woman in another life (or the previous, whichever you prefer) being 0. ROFL. Should have guessed, really. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I think a better way of looking at this topic would to look at each individual's situation and understand that perhaps, relative to their own personal situation one sex or the other does indeed have it "easier". I personally do not feel like I have any kind of advantage over women. I have never been in a relationship and I've only been on a handful of dates in my life. In every single one of these instances, it was the woman who decided that I was not worth seeing again. So, to me, women have the power to accept or reject me, and in order to get them to accept me I must do a multitude of things in order and perfectly. It doesn't really work the other way around; a woman would literally have to be a serial killer in order for me to walk. So relative to me, women do have it easier. Relative to men as a whole? I don't know and I personally could care less. I'd imagine it's more or less even in terms of difficulty but I'm not "men as a whole", I'm me. Would I have rather have been a woman? No, I would rather have been a guy who had an easy time getting dates and relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
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