Consolidated Discussion - Older/younger woman/man and age gap dating

[thefooloftheyear]

It sure does happen. I'm with a man 20 years my senior in a long term relationship. Shock. Horror. He didn't trap or trick me

 

Oh...Be prepared...Im sure once these ladies wake up and read this post they will be sure to shame you and tell you that you have emotional problems and daddy issues...

 

TFY

[oz-missy]

Oh...Be prepared...Im sure once these ladies wake up and read this post they will be sure to shame you and tell you that you have emotional problems and daddy issues...

 

TFY

 

ah bring it on I say!

[Michelle ma Belle]

Why have you chosen to give your care, respect, love and trust to a woman who is 15 years younger than you? Why not to a woman your age?

 

I am thinking about starting a seperate topic on this but it irritates the hell out of me to see men my age going for women 10 to 15 years younger and then telling how good they are to them, as if women their own age don't deserve the same treatment.

 

It's because of these situations that a lot of good, attractive women over 45+ don't find a man their age. Yes they get interest from guys 10 to 15 years older than them but we don't want them!!! We want someone our own age...

 

I can relate to this particularly when I jumped back into the dating pool after my divorce. I was 40ish and had been out of the loop for about 20 years. My ex was almost 5 years older than me and I've always found the company of older men more enjoyable even when I was young.

 

When I started to date again, I did so with numerous "deal breakers" that effectively narrowed my pool of options considerably. One of them was looking to date men close to my age give or take a couple years. I mean, who would have thought wanting a man MY age was too much to ask for? Ugh.

 

It wasn't very long before I was hit with the realization that most men MY age wanted women half THEIR age! Why? Because they could!!! It was VERY frustrating and disheartening particularly in the beginning.

 

All the while this was happening, I was inundated with attention from younger men as well as much older men (10+ either way). As anyone who's done the dating thing for a while (especially OLD), eventually you come to a point where you are forced to become more open-minded about many of the things you once saw as deal-breakers if only to broaden your prospects. That was indeed the case for me.

 

And so I changed my thinking, learned how to survive with my dignity intact and allowed myself to engage more freely with men of ALL ages with great success. The most critical part of this new adventure was to check any preconceptions and/or expectations I had at the door. Of course, I still had a bucket full of deal breakers but they had more to do with someone's character than anything physical.

 

Unfortunately, this is how dating in your forties looks like for women. You can either learn how to swim or sink along with all your expectations. I chose to swim and had a wonderful ride ever since. I have absolutely no regrets

Edited April 15, 2014 by Michelle ma Belle

[KathyM]

It sure does happen. I'm with a man 20 years my senior in a long term relationship. Shock. Horror. He didn't trap or trick me

Well, let me know how that works out for you when you're 30 and wanting children, and he's 50 and has finished with child rearing. Or when you're 40 and in the middle of raising children, and he's 60 and ready for retirement. Or when you're 50 and wanting to enjoy your empty nest and do some traveling, and he's 70 with health problems. Let me know how that works out for you. *winks*

[KathyM]

Oh...Be prepared...Im sure once these ladies wake up and read this post they will be sure to shame you and tell you that you have emotional problems and daddy issues...

 

TFY

lol. If the shoe fits . . .

[MidwestUSA]

Well, let me know how that works out for you when you're 30 and wanting children, and he's 50 and has finished with child rearing. Or when you're 40 and in the middle of raising children, and he's 60 and ready for retirement. Or when you're 50 and wanting to enjoy your empty nest and do some traveling, and he's 70 with health problems. Let me know how that works out for you. *winks*

 

 

 

Well, look, just as TFY predicted!

 

 

Shocking.

 

 

Be happy, oz.

[thefooloftheyear]

Well, let me know how that works out for you when you're 30 and wanting children, and he's 50 and has finished with child rearing. Or when you're 40 and in the middle of raising children, and he's 60 and ready for retirement. Or when you're 50 and wanting to enjoy your empty nest and do some traveling, and he's 70 with health problems. Let me know how that works out for you. *winks*

 

Maybe she doesnt want kids...or heck...Like in my case, I have an 11 year old and I am in my late 40's and am more youthful and athletic than ALL of my daughters friends fat and out of shape fathers that are in their 30's...

 

And to be honest, Ill be fully retired at 60...And ill still be blowing the doors off of the 40 year olds..If my kid was little at that time Id have a blast being able to spend all kinds of time with her, coach her sports teams, etc. instead of busting my ass in the rat race-like i do now....

 

And who's to say she isnt the one with health problems at 50, while he is a normal healthy 70 year old...Heck, my 70 year old mom runs a company and can run circles around most 50 year old women...

 

Its just not as cut and dried as you are making it out to be...

 

TFY

[Babolat]

I can relate to this particularly when I jumped back into the dating pool after my divorce. I was 40ish and had been out of the loop for about 20 years. My ex was almost 5 years older than me and I've always found the company of older men more enjoyable even when I was young.

 

When I started to date again, I did so with numerous "deal breakers" that effectively narrowed my pool of options considerably. One of them was looking to date men close to my age give or take a couple years. I mean, who would have thought wanting a man MY age was too much to ask for? Ugh.

 

It wasn't very long before I was hit with the realization that most men MY age wanted women half THEIR age! Why? Because they could!!! It was VERY frustrating and disheartening particularly in the beginning.

 

All the while this was happening, I was inundated with attention from younger men as well as much older men (10+ either way). As anyone who's done the dating thing for a while (especially OLD), eventually you come to a point where you are forced to become more open-minded about many of the things you once saw as deal-breakers if only to broaden your prospects. That was indeed the case for me.

 

And so I changed my thinking, learned how to survive with my dignity intact and allowed myself to engage more freely with men of ALL ages with great success. The most critical part of this new adventure was to check any preconceptions and/or expectations I had at the door. Of course, I still had a bucket full of deal breakers but they had more to do with someone's character than anything physical.

 

Unfortunately, this is how dating in your forties looks like for women. You can either learn how to swim or sink along with all your expectations. I chose to swim and had a wonderful ride ever since. I have absolutely no regrets

 

Great post.

 

I have kind of sort of, done this too. I've been on a few dates with a woman who is, get this, older than me, recently, and I like her. Prior, I would have filtered her out by her age. Sad, yes, but true. When I discovered the girl I was interested in this fall was 29 (it took a while for her to share it with me, i assumed mid 30s based on maturity) I almost filtered her out, too. But figured "Why?".

 

In general, I do seem to get along better with woman closer to my age; I don't go looking for a young woman or an older one. It just happened, and I allowed it to. I was thinking last night "Goodness, there is almost a 20 year difference in the two" yet I like them both and age is not on my mind. There is a lot to be said for "having lived and experienced life" though, which is a difference I saw with the younger woman.

 

Dating looks like this for men, in their forties too.

 

I am pretty much like fooloftheyear as far as being active and healthy at the ripe old age of 47. I have no plans of slowing down and hope to find a partner who can at least try to keep up with me!

Edited April 15, 2014 by Babolat

[RedRobin]

Why are you, spinning it this way? The girl I was interested in this fall, she was 29, I am 47, I did not spin anything, pitch anything or sell her anything, I acted and behaved like I normally do, and she, was attracted to that. I was suprised to say the least, but I did not change who I was nor did I try to mislead\misguide her.

 

I did not need to be with her, and her age never entered my mind. I liked her as a person and enjoyed spending time with her.

 

And, I'm divorced because we were both not happy. I, in fact, was miserable. It took leaving to finally relaize that.

 

When I was 45 I dated a woman who was 34. She persued me. Same thing, I did not change a single thing about me.

 

I understand your message, I just don't think you can generalize it to all men who end up with a younger woman.

 

Aw baloney. You groomed the 29 year old for awhile when she was having problems with her bf. Playing footsie in the park before they broke up ( just one example).

 

I don't believe everything you post here. Deny it if you want but you aren't fooling me.

 

I have worked around more men in my life than you have ( likely) and seen sides you haven't. I know all about how it is done... And... Being on the receiving end of that attention... Well... It has been tempting at times but not for the reason people might think.

 

Maybe I just have way too much faith in myself to even think for a second that I need to settle for an older man... For the same reason you would never date a woman who was 60 years old.

 

Or... If one does the math... A 49 year old. Two years older than you. Give me an effing break. She is not 'older' than you. She is same age with that difference.

 

Maybe I should dump the guy I just started seeing in that case... He is three years older.

Edited April 15, 2014 by RedRobin

[PinkInTheLimo]

I can relate to this particularly when I jumped back into the dating pool after my divorce. I was 40ish and had been out of the loop for about 20 years. My ex was almost 5 years older than me and I've always found the company of older men more enjoyable even when I was young.

 

When I started to date again, I did so with numerous "deal breakers" that effectively narrowed my pool of options considerably. One of them was looking to date men close to my age give or take a couple years. I mean, who would have thought wanting a man MY age was too much to ask for? Ugh.

 

It wasn't very long before I was hit with the realization that most men MY age wanted women half THEIR age! Why? Because they could!!! It was VERY frustrating and disheartening particularly in the beginning.

 

All the while this was happening, I was inundated with attention from younger men as well as much older men (10+ either way). As anyone who's done the dating thing for a while (especially OLD), eventually you come to a point where you are forced to become more open-minded about many of the things you once saw as deal-breakers if only to broaden your prospects. That was indeed the case for me.

 

And so I changed my thinking, learned how to survive with my dignity intact and allowed myself to engage more freely with men of ALL ages with great success. The most critical part of this new adventure was to check any preconceptions and/or expectations I had at the door. Of course, I still had a bucket full of deal breakers but they had more to do with someone's character than anything physical.

 

Unfortunately, this is how dating in your forties looks like for women. You can either learn how to swim or sink along with all your expectations. I chose to swim and had a wonderful ride ever since. I have absolutely no regrets

 

Did you manage to find a partner?

 

Not wanting to be with a significantly older man is not a superficial criterion since there is a good chance it will affect your life in a negative way.

 

If I get together with a man who is let's say 3 years older than me there is a good chance that we both still are alive when we retire in our sixties and have plenty of time to enjoy life together.

Whereas if I get together with a man who is 13 years older than me, he will be 78 when I retire at 65. Maybe he will still be fit and active but the risk is higher that he has health problems or has even died. Plus unless he is really well off, I will have been the main breadwinner in the household for over 10 years.

 

Maybe at 49 all I can find is a 10-15 year older man but if that is the case (which I still doubt), I'd rather stay single. It's just not worth it. In my opinion the fact that a guy is significantly older does not offer me any advantage. I have a comfortable income so his would already have to be really high to make the trade-off interesting, and I don't think that a man of 60 would necessarily be a lot richer than a guy of 50. For the record, I am not looking for a rich man, I am just thinking about what advantage an older guy would have for me.

It might maybe be different for the 30 year old woman who wants security and picks the 45 year old guy but for me as the 49 year old woman I am who is financially independent the 10-15 year old guy does not offer anything more than the guy my age. The guy my age has a very big advantage: he is my age, he is from my generation, and that is something that I find very comfortable.

 

If I would opt for a bigger age difference, I would go for a younger guy but that honestly does not interest me either.

 

You can be open for different folks but if you are dating with the purpose of meeting someone for a longterm relationship, it does not make sense to invest time in people who you don't consider as relationship material.

[KathyM]

Ill be fully retired at 60...And ill still be blowing the doors off of the 40 year olds..If my kid was little at that time Id have a blast being able to spend all kinds of time with her, coach her sports teams, etc.

TFY

And her friends will be asking her, "Is that your grandpa?"

[RedRobin]

I can relate to this particularly when I jumped back into the dating pool after my divorce. I was 40ish and had been out of the loop for about 20 years. My ex was almost 5 years older than me and I've always found the company of older men more enjoyable even when I was young.

 

When I started to date again, I did so with numerous "deal breakers" that effectively narrowed my pool of options considerably. One of them was looking to date men close to my age give or take a couple years. I mean, who would have thought wanting a man MY age was too much to ask for? Ugh.

 

It wasn't very long before I was hit with the realization that most men MY age wanted women half THEIR age! Why? Because they could!!! It was VERY frustrating and disheartening particularly in the beginning.

 

All the while this was happening, I was inundated with attention from younger men as well as much older men (10+ either way). As anyone who's done the dating thing for a while (especially OLD), eventually you come to a point where you are forced to become more open-minded about many of the things you once saw as deal-breakers if only to broaden your prospects. That was indeed the case for me.

 

And so I changed my thinking, learned how to survive with my dignity intact and allowed myself to engage more freely with men of ALL ages with great success. The most critical part of this new adventure was to check any preconceptions and/or expectations I had at the door. Of course, I still had a bucket full of deal breakers but they had more to do with someone's character than anything physical.

 

Unfortunately, this is how dating in your forties looks like for women. You can either learn how to swim or sink along with all your expectations. I chose to swim and had a wonderful ride ever since. I have absolutely no regrets

 

You are absolutely right. I have passed on opportunities with younger men because I am looking for a committed relationship with the possibility of marriage.

 

If I toss out that one requirement... It would be easy as pie.

 

I won't be swimming with older men because I don't have to either. It is not like they are any more commitment minded.

 

I don't have kids.. Tubes are tied. Physically I look like the woman in my avatar.

 

*shrug*

[PinkInTheLimo]

And to be honest, Ill be fully retired at 60...

 

This is another reason why dating a guy 10-15 years older than me does not really appeal to me. I would like to stay professionally active till I am 65, maybe even longer. I would not like it when my partner does not work anymore. Not only because of the money but because I have a strong work ethic. I like to work and I come from a family where people work long and hard. My dad still works every morning in the business he previously owned. Not because he needs to but because he likes it.

[PinkInTheLimo]

I won't be swimming with older men because I don't have to either. It is not like they are any more commitment minded.

 

So true. It's not because they are older that they are better partners. Not at all. They don't have anything more to offer than someone who is our age. The younger women might not see that but we see right through the older men's BS.

[thefooloftheyear]

And her friends will be asking her, "Is that your grandpa?"

 

 

Yeah..ok sure....

 

Thats why last year when we went on vacation at the beach with two other couples,(both guys in their 30's), this "old man"(me) was the only one in the water playing with the kids...Neither of the other two lett the towels...One has bad knees and the other one is so fat, he's too embarrassed to take his t-shirt off because his man boobs are friggin hideous..

 

I get where you are coming from...but people arent created equal..I womder how many folks would call Lee L..an "old guy"...(I think he is around 54)...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjtgy8x9sNM

 

TFY

[thefooloftheyear]

This is another reason why dating a guy 10-15 years older than me does not really appeal to me. I would like to stay professionally active till I am 65, maybe even longer. I would not like it when my partner does not work anymore. Not only because of the money but because I have a strong work ethic. I like to work and I come from a family where people work long and hard. My dad still works every morning in the business he previously owned. Not because he needs to but because he likes it.

 

Im pretty wealthy and Ill always work as well..

 

Its just that at that time, ill have the freedom to pretty much call all the shots...Heck, I can do that now...I just choose not to...

 

TFY

[KathyM]

https://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/older-men-younger-women-gross-natural-something-between-155600991.html

 

 

Here's an article about a young woman who married a much older man, and her experiences about it.

[PinkInTheLimo]

Yeah..ok sure....

 

Thats why last year when we went on vacation at the beach with two other couples,(both guys in their 30's), this "old man"(me) was the only one in the water playing with the kids...Neither of the other two lett the towels...One has bad knees and the other one is so fat, he's too embarrassed to take his t-shirt off because his man boobs are friggin hideous..

 

I get where you are coming from...but people arent created equal..I womder how many folks would call Lee L..an "old guy"...(I think he is around 54)...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjtgy8x9sNM

 

TFY

 

OK, this all might be true, you might indeed be in so much better shape than men your age or even men younger than you.

 

But you know what? For me personally this bragging by older guys that they are still in great shape, that they look and act so much younger than they are, etc... IT IS SO BORING!!!

 

I find it so narcissistic and a huge turnoff for a woman who has a spine and selfconfidence. I've received so many of these mails on dating site: I am so much better, younger, healthier than the average man of my age. YAWN... It's all about them: look at me I am so great, good looking, fit, etc...

 

What I care about is that someone can show some genuine interest in me and care about me, and that the relationship is not about me eternally applauding him and his oh so youthful looks and attitude.

 

I had this 10 year older guy who kept mailing me on a dating site despite me explaining that I was not interested; he was too old and he was not good looking. Instead of accepting it, he kept summing up how many marathons he had run over the last years, and other sporty performance which honestly only made me even less interested in him.

 

I just want a regular bloke my age, someone who takes good care of himself, does a bit of sport, nothing extreme. Who has a decent enough job to lead a comfortable life together. Someone who feels good about himself and does not necessarily needs a younger woman on his arm to feel that he has any value.

[Michelle ma Belle]

Did you manage to find a partner?

 

Not wanting to be with a significantly older man is not a superficial criterion since there is a good chance it will affect your life in a negative way.

 

If I get together with a man who is let's say 3 years older than me there is a good chance that we both still are alive when we retire in our sixties and have plenty of time to enjoy life together.

Whereas if I get together with a man who is 13 years older than me, he will be 78 when I retire at 65. Maybe he will still be fit and active but the risk is higher that he has health problems or has even died. Plus unless he is really well off, I will have been the main breadwinner in the household for over 10 years.

 

Maybe at 49 all I can find is a 10-15 year older man but if that is the case (which I still doubt), I'd rather stay single. It's just not worth it. In my opinion the fact that a guy is significantly older does not offer me any advantage. I have a comfortable income so his would already have to be really high to make the trade-off interesting, and I don't think that a man of 60 would necessarily be a lot richer than a guy of 50. For the record, I am not looking for a rich man, I am just thinking about what advantage an older guy would have for me.

It might maybe be different for the 30 year old woman who wants security and picks the 45 year old guy but for me as the 49 year old woman I am who is financially independent the 10-15 year old guy does not offer anything more than the guy my age. The guy my age has a very big advantage: he is my age, he is from my generation, and that is something that I find very comfortable.

 

If I would opt for a bigger age difference, I would go for a younger guy but that honestly does not interest me either.

 

You can be open for different folks but if you are dating with the purpose of meeting someone for a longterm relationship, it does not make sense to invest time in people who you don't consider as relationship material.

 

 

I agree with you completely.

 

And yes, I have found an exception man who has restored my faith in love once again. Ironically, he is 13 years YOUNGER than me. It was all very unexpected and we started out as friends before it blossomed into something more and I couldn't be happier.

 

I too am (and have always been) a one-woman-man and sincerely enjoy being in a relationship. That's what I was hoping for when I felt I was finally ready to date again. Despite how my 20 year relationship was, I was and still am a hopeless and hopeful romantic at heart! I wanted nothing more than to meet someone who was as serious about looking for a partner in life not as I was and not just a quick f*ck. So yes, I agree with needing to meet men who are on the same page regarding this point.

 

As for the age gap being an issue regarding the quality and quantity of time with that person, again, I understand and have felt the very same way myself.

 

BUT there is something about living and embracing the moment that resonates deeply for ME especially these days and after what I've been through. I've already done the marriage and kids and white-picket-fence and doing "all the right things" only to end up divorced and my hopes and dreams and planning gone. As if I never had a plan.

 

These days, I choose to listen to my heart and my gut (especially with my gut) and if it feels good and I'm HAPPY then that is what I live for.

 

I make a conscious decision not to dwell too long on how things will be 10 or 20 years from now. So much can happen between now and then and when you really think about it, none of it is in our control no matter how much planning we do.

 

That's just life

[RedRobin]

https://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/older-men-younger-women-gross-natural-something-between-155600991.html

 

 

Here's an article about a young woman who married a much older man, and her experiences about it.

 

Exactly.... Also goes back to the idea about mentoring... Older men shouldn't be misinterpreting or exploiting the fascination some ( misguided) and... No doubt lonely... Or maybe just curious... Attention of those women.

 

Totally agree on the fact that these men are also abandoning younger men who need their wisdom... Or supposed wisdom. The only real coaching I see amongst most men here is not relationship oriented at all. Older men have abandoned younger men out of their own insecurities with aging and need to appear perpetually young. Pretty pathetic.

 

So... What we have now is a generation of women who are basically told to be ok being some young guys eff buddy through her twenties... Or sell herself off to the highest older bidder. And what do the guys get?

 

A lot of them THINK they will be one of the guys playing that card in their 40's... But in reality... They have missed out on a sizeable chunk of their own lives... Are still no better in terms of relationships than they were when they were in their twenties... And OOPs... The most desirable women their own age don't want them either in the race to the bottom (in age) ... And it is a pretty good bet that the younger women they MIGHT be able to attract come with a whole host of issues that their similar age peers didn't have WHEN they had the chance to attract one.

Edited April 15, 2014 by RedRobin

[KathyM]

Exactly.... Also goes back to the idea about mentoring... Older men shouldn't be misinterpreting or exploiting the fascination some ( misguided) and... No doubt lonely... Or maybe just curious... Attention of those women.

 

Totally agree on the fact that these men are also abandoning younger men who need their wisdom... Or supposed wisdom. The only real coaching I see amongst most men here is not relationship oriented at all. Older men have abandoned younger men out of their own insecurities with aging and need to appear perpetually young. Pretty pathetic.

 

So... What we have now is a generation of women who are basically told to be ok being some young guys eff buddy through her twenties... Or sell herself off to the highest older bidder. And what do the guys get?

 

A lot of them THINK they will be one of the guys playing that card in their 40's... But in reality... They have missed out on a sizeable chunk of their own lives... Are still no better in terms of relationships than they were when they were in their twenties... And OOPs... The most desirable women their own age don't want them either in the race to the bottom (in age) ... And it is a pretty good bet that the younger women they MIGHT be able to attract come with a whole host of issues that their similar age peers didn't have WHEN they had the chance to attract one.

Yep, I venture to say those men would have a lot better chance of attracting a quality partner when in their 20s and early 30s, than when they are older and looking for significantly younger women.

[thefooloftheyear]

OK, this all might be true, you might indeed be in so much better shape than men your age or even men younger than you.

 

But you know what? For me personally this bragging by older guys that they are still in great shape, that they look and act so much younger than they are, etc... IT IS SO BORING!!!

 

I find it so narcissistic and a huge turnoff for a woman who has a spine and selfconfidence. I've received so many of these mails on dating site: I am so much better, younger, healthier than the average man of my age. YAWN... It's all about them: look at me I am so great, good looking, fit, etc...

 

What I care about is that someone can show some genuine interest in me and care about me, and that the relationship is not about me eternally applauding him and his oh so youthful looks and attitude.

 

I had this 10 year older guy who kept mailing me on a dating site despite me explaining that I was not interested; he was too old and he was not good looking. Instead of accepting it, he kept summing up how many marathons he had run over the last years, and other sporty performance which honestly only made me even less interested in him.

 

I just want a regular bloke my age, someone who takes good care of himself, does a bit of sport, nothing extreme. Who has a decent enough job to lead a comfortable life together. Someone who feels good about himself and does not necessarily needs a younger woman on his arm to feel that he has any value.

 

Good for you, Sounds like you know what you want...

 

Understand....I am not advocating "robbing the cradle"...You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I do understand...

 

All I am doing here, is dispelling some of the crap some posters are saying about how men that attract attention from younger women are all "predators"...I am in great shape, but I am neither pretentious or cocky...If anything, I am way more humble than the chicken legged jackasses that think they are hot crap because they have 13" arms.....yawn..

 

 

Are there guys that are predators? Sure...And there are predatory females as well..>But to call every guy this, just because he attracts attention from younger women is just naive and judgemental..

 

TFY

[xxoo]

Yeah..ok sure....

 

Thats why last year when we went on vacation at the beach with two other couples,(both guys in their 30's), this "old man"(me) was the only one in the water playing with the kids...Neither of the other two lett the towels...One has bad knees and the other one is so fat, he's too embarrassed to take his t-shirt off because his man boobs are friggin hideous..

 

I get where you are coming from...but people arent created equal..I womder how many folks would call Lee L..an "old guy"...(I think he is around 54)...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjtgy8x9sNM

 

TFY

 

I think he looks like a fit "old" guy. Too old for me (I'm 40), although I'm sure a fitness minded woman in her 50s would consider him a catch!

 

Ideally, most fit women would prefer a fit guy her own age. Best of both worlds.

[KathyM]

I'm not calling every older dude a predator who goes after much younger women. Although certainly some are. But I think they do women their own age and young men a disservice by rejecting their peers, and they ultimately do themselves a disservice when the much younger woman grows up and realizes she doesn't want a guy that old and leaves him. In fact this very thing happened to one of my nieces who has daddy issues. Stayed with a much older dude for three years, and then in her late 20s, realized she has no life with a guy that much older. She is now engaged to a man her own age and is very happy.

[Candy_Pants]

So true. It's not because they are older that they are better partners. Not at all. They don't have anything more to offer than someone who is our age. The younger women might not see that but we see right through the older men's BS.

My mom once told me "Older men aren't better, they're just better liars."

 

I don't necessarily believe this, but it ties in nicely .