musemaj11 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Are they just as self-entitled as American women or are they better? I figure probably Canadian women are no different than American women considering Canada is America's backyard. But how about Australian women? Any different? Link to post Share on other sites
UsayWhaa Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Canadian girls: 80% bitches, 15% whores, 5% divas. Lol, just joking. As with any batch of women (or people) they vary, but a large majority of the wasp girls are self-entitled and very narrow minded when it comes to what they want in a man. Australian girls must be a different story. Australian people are pretty down to earth from what I hear. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 We were never spoiled. Aussie men are kinda pigs to be honest, we have to learn to be all laid back and relaxed or we'd never procreate with them. We all have our faults. I'm sure if you went there and dated around, there would be things that annoy you about Aussie women that American ones don't do. Link to post Share on other sites
Author musemaj11 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) We were never spoiled. Aussie men are kinda pigs to be honest, we have to learn to be all laid back and relaxed or we'd never procreate with them. Lol, it seems to me nature has designed that if one side is a giver, the other will learn to be a taker. I think we should have a population exchange. American men should all move to Australia and American women can have Australian men. We all have our faults. I'm sure if you went there and dated around, there would be things that annoy you about Aussie women that American ones don't do.So you live in the US now? If yes then thats a pity because within three years you will be 'contaminated' and become just like any other American women. Edited July 28, 2011 by musemaj11 Link to post Share on other sites
oldguy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I think there is as much diversity in the U.S. as ANY place I've traveled outside of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Lol, it seems to me nature has designed that if one side is a giver, the other will learn to be a taker. I think we should have a population exchange. American men should all move to Australia and American women can have Australian men. So you live in the US now? If yes then thats a pity because within three years you will be 'contaminated' and become just like any other American women. Yes, I live here now. And I am my own person, I doubt at this stage in my life I would undergo a major character change. Not to mention, my husband would divorce me if I turned into one of these self entitled harpies you seem to think American women are and I'd end up back in Australia. I do find it hard to believe that all American women are what you are claiming. I doubt I will be "contaminated" by anything. Of the American women I have met both on LS and since I've moved here, apart from a couple of princesses (which you will find in ANY country), they're genuine, hard working people. Good mothers and partners. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I think there is as much diversity in the U.S. as ANY place I've traveled outside of it. Completely, 100% agree. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) People always talk about how nice Canadians are, but every time I've been to Canada, I thought the people were kind of mean, particularly the women. Canadian men seem nice enough; I don't believe I've ever had one be rude to me. It's always surprised me. And it's likely just a matter of, "It's diverse everywhere!" or they hate my American accent or whatever. But I never enjoy Canada when I visit. I've lived and visited lots of countries and never encountered as much general unpleasantness as there. (Toronto area mainly. I've been told I'd like Vancouver better.) We were never spoiled. Aussie men are kinda pigs to be honest, we have to learn to be all laid back and relaxed or we'd never procreate with them. We all have our faults. I'm sure if you went there and dated around, there would be things that annoy you about Aussie women that American ones don't do. This is kind of interesting to me. I only have experience with the Aussie men from Asia, but they were always still ranked above American guys. (And all the ones I met were sweethearts. Some were players, but that's true of every nationality over there.) Expat girls in Korea and Japan tend to rank the male expat nationalities (all English speaking) as following in terms of lack of creepiness: Kiwis, Brits, South African (rare finds though over there so hard to classify), Canadian, Australian, Irish, and American. Korean girls don't seem to see the difference but I don't speak Korean well, so it may be language barrier. Japanese girls tend to agree with this from what I've heard, except they prefer Brits best. Brits seem rarer there, though. Not that expats may give you any real view of the people in their country. They are, after all, the people who've chosen to leave! But the Aussie men I met weren't so bad. A friend of mine is marrying an Aussie fellow (they met in Korea; she's American, from the Midwest) and he's an absolute doll to her. He reminds me of Marshall from the show HIMYM. (But, you know, Australian.) Edited July 28, 2011 by zengirl Link to post Share on other sites
Author musemaj11 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yes, I live here now. And I am my own person, I doubt at this stage in my life I would undergo a major character change. Not to mention, my husband would divorce me if I turned into one of these self entitled harpies you seem to think American women are and I'd end up back in Australia. Haha, thats what they all say. I have seen it countless times with my own eyes. Unless you stick with your own cultural community all the time, you cant resist the new societal influence. Its natural. I do find it hard to believe that all American women are what you are claiming. Of course 'all' is an exaggeration. But generally my claims are true. Im not saying American women are inherently evil because they can make good friends or good acquaintances. Its just that you dont want to make them long term romantic partners. Link to post Share on other sites
oldguy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) People always talk about how nice Canadians are, but every time I've been to Canada, I thought the people were kind of mean, particularly the women. Canadian men seem nice enough; I don't believe I've ever had one be rude to me. It's always surprised me. And it's likely just a matter of, "It's diverse everywhere!" or they hate my American accent or whatever. But I never enjoy Canada when I visit. I've lived and visited lots of countries and never encountered as much general unpleasantness as there. (Toronto area mainly. I've been told I'd like Vancouver better.) That's odd, I've been to Canada quite often, including Toronto. I've found the people to be very hospitable. I actually don't think many of them noticed I was an American. Maybe that's WHY they seemed cordial Truthfully, with the way some American comedians or movies depict Canadians I'm not surprised they require Passports now to enter their country. Frankly I sort of grimace over most of the cheap shots taken. I'm still mostly amused that we lump everyone together from one country or another and attempt to compare or rank them as if they are massed produced by one manufacturer or another. The U.S., for instance is made up of approximately 310 million individuals from every country in the world and one geographic location is almost as diverse & individual as one person from the next. I've traveled a bit & if there could be one universal truth it might be, no matter where you go you will encounter arsholes, but by & large most people are accommodating & friendly to those they find accommodating & friendly. In other words; I've found that people generally mirror back the attitude presented to them. Edited July 28, 2011 by oldguy Link to post Share on other sites
StoneCold Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Are they just as self-entitled as American women or are they better? I figure probably Canadian women are no different than American women considering Canada is America's backyard. But how about Australian women? Any different? LMAO...there are self entitled women any and anywhere (outside of the middle east and Africa where they have bigger concerns....like eating and not getting shot) Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Haha, thats what they all say. I have seen it countless times with my own eyes. Musemaj11...isn't it possible, though, that they were responding to your hostility? You don't really bother to hide it; it's only natural that if you speak to someone in a hostile way they'll respond right back with hostility. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I found Aussie ladies to have a marked independent streak and generally are laid-back and do know how to party. The further away from the urban areas (Sidney, Melbourne, etc), the more 'feral' and wider ranging the personalities. IMO, in Sydney, it wasn't much different from NYC. In the same region, kiwi (NZ) ladies, to me, seemed a bit more reserved but I haven't been there enough times to really form a solid opinion. I base my impressions on the ladies I've met in bars and clubs and at functions, as well as on the street. Our friends in Oz are a pretty diverse group but an interesting common denominator is that only one of them is married. One is a nanny for a wealthy businessman and his wife. Another is a musician. We entertained her daughter while she was here in the US. Another works in education and built a house for herself and her elderly parents to live in. I recall, one day while we were staying with her and sightseeing, her mother washing our clothes, drying them (outside) and folding them on the bed. Generous to a fault. OP, if you want first-hand info and experience regarding Australia, just go visit. Get an ETA, get on a plane and go. I'll guarantee you won't be disappointed, even if the ladies aren't to your liking. In Canada, I've been to Vancouver a number of times, Toronto, Ottawa and London a couple of times. IMO, not much different than large cities here in the US, like Chicago, NYC, Philly, etc. I really didn't perceive obviously marked cultural differences in the ladies. Then again, I never dated them, which brings up a good point. People can appear one way when one is a tourist and a completely different way when one is dating them. That's not always the case but I've seen it enough to mention it. If you want to have 'fun' and date casually, rent an apartment in St. Pete or Moscow and spend a month wandering around. When the snow starts to melt and the miniskirts come out, that's the time to go. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Are they just as self-entitled as American women or are they better? I figure probably Canadian women are no different than American women considering Canada is America's backyard. But how about Australian women? Any different? I have no experience with Australian chicks, but Canadian ones are pretty much exactly like their American counterparts, except somewhat less fat. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Truthfully, with the way some American comedians or movies depict Canadians I'm not surprised they require Passports now to enter their country. LOL. The passport requirement was instituted after your country imposed a similar requirement on Canadians wishing to enter the U.S. Someone in Washington was watching too much CNN and got the idea that 9/11 highjackers entered America across the Canadian border. Link to post Share on other sites
Professor X Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Canada is USA's hat. Just sayin' Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Canada is USA's hat. Just sayin' So what does that make USA? Canada's undergarments? Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That's odd, I've been to Canada quite often, including Toronto. I've found the people to be very hospitable. I actually don't think many of them noticed I was an American. Maybe that's WHY they seemed cordial Truthfully, with the way some American comedians or movies depict Canadians I'm not surprised they require Passports now to enter their country. Frankly I sort of grimace over most of the cheap shots taken. I'm still mostly amused that we lump everyone together from one country or another and attempt to compare. Oh, true. I was generalizing experiences but not meaning to say it could all really be lumped together. I'm a bit of a Southern gal, and I have a mild Southern accent (I mostly sound like TV English, but I do on occasion sound a bit Southern; my British BF thought I sounded Southern enough he could tell I was from there---Americans rarely can---but I definitely don't have a drawl like on The Closer or anything). It could be the accent that puts them off. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Why do we have to bash American women yet again? It's so tired and boring. Ask away about peoples' experiences with Canadian and Australian women, but why not leave the ugly bitterness out of it. I have lots of friends who are Canadian, and they certainly do seem to have a better grasp on courtesy and general good manners than we Americans do. The generalization is gender neutral. My encounters with Australian people have been much fewer (I lived in northern Washington state, so BC was pretty much my backyard), but to generalize, I would say that they have charming accents and were really good at partying. When traveling and living abroad, I noticed that Aussie men in groups generally behaved like boors and were not pleasant drunks. In defense of myself and my American sisters, I am old and I have many, many women friends gathered from my childhood, university, professional, and community life. Not a single one of us exhibits the "entitled, spoiled princess" syndrome you claim is a feature of all American woman. I don't deny that such a thing exists, but I would not be interested in being friends with women like that anyway. Why would you? Link to post Share on other sites
grkBoy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I met some beautiful women in Montreal. Not as shallow as many American women can get, but not all of them have their wits about them either. Link to post Share on other sites
Stung Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I've met, worked, traveled and lived with, and/or dated men and women on three continents, including the US. I have met a lot of ******* Americans--and a lot of ******* everyone else, too. The lowest common denominator is spread all across the globe, but so are their brighter counterparts. Perhaps you need to broaden your horizons, move in new circles, try to get a fresh start. Link to post Share on other sites
Author musemaj11 Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Musemaj11...isn't it possible, though, that they were responding to your hostility? You don't really bother to hide it; it's only natural that if you speak to someone in a hostile way they'll respond right back with hostility. Just saying. No, its not that. I come from an immigrant background myself. And I have seen how women in my ethnic community who just came to this country changed over the years and became americanized. If there is language barrier, it will take five or more years. But if there is none, it may take no longer than one year. Edited July 29, 2011 by musemaj11 Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned_Wife Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So what does that make USA? Canada's undergarments? LMAO I'm sorry that struck my funny bone. I'm a Canuk girl. I'm rarely a b!tch unless I have to be, always give the benefit of the doubt to people unless they give me reason not to and pretty laid back. I find the more northern areas of provinces (ie: Northern Ontario for example) the people are behind the times so to speak. Neighbors help neighbors, people say hello instead of either a. trying to mug you (lived in Brampton for 10yrs, no comment) or b. crossing the street like you have plague or something. All the Americans I've met seem similar, easy going, laid back, nice. Don't seem to have too many problems with anyone really myself. Though I *have* met some pretty wicked evil people over the years they are few and far between for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Author musemaj11 Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Just to be clear, Im not asking about the hospitability of people in Canada and Australia in general. Im asking about the women in concern of dating. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 People always talk about how nice Canadians are, but every time I've been to Canada, I thought the people were kind of mean, particularly the women. Canadian men seem nice enough; I don't believe I've ever had one be rude to me. It's always surprised me. And it's likely just a matter of, "It's diverse everywhere!" or they hate my American accent or whatever. But I never enjoy Canada when I visit. I've lived and visited lots of countries and never encountered as much general unpleasantness as there. (Toronto area mainly. I've been told I'd like Vancouver better.) In Canada, it depends where you go. Toronto is a big multi-cultural city- It's an immigration hotspot. Like most big cities, trying to find a general ambiance of "friendliness" isn't going to be easy. I live there and it's really just a bunch of people passing you by on the street every day- the majority of which are "new arrivals". A lot of established Canadians think of American tourists as overbearing and rude... I've witnessed it A LOT, but don't blame the entire U.S as being that way. Canada is no different than anywhere else- there are rude people everywhere. Try going to Quebec when you don't speak french. My bf and I walked into a pub and the waiter came over (we were the only people in the place)- and when he realized we were english speaking- he left us at our table and never came back. Just stood at the bar conversing with the bartender ignoring us. We finally just got up and left. I think Canadians get this overall rep of being "nice" because our political policies are tolerant. (Overly tolerant in my opinion). Link to post Share on other sites
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