Does Anyone Have Experience w/ Women in Canada and Australia?

[D-Lish]

Don't want to over-generalize (I have a small sample size) - but I have found American women to be loud, aggressive, pushy, rude and over-confident. I have found Canadian women to be similar.

 

My best male friend is American and he is a sweetheart (married though) but haven't met many American men otherwise.

 

Australian men ARE pigs and treat women like s$it.

 

Okay, I used to like you...

[musemaj11]

Of course, you could dye your hair black, grow a mustache, wear a sombrero and just walk across our southern border carrying drugs, like millions do every year.

What is your problem?

[Nexus One]

Regarding the topic question. You can't generalize an entire gender group of a country. Personalities differ per person.

 

Have you looked at the immigration requirements for entry into the US? You need to have a lot of money for a start.

 

You can get a US investors visa when you invest 100k USD in a US company. If you set up your own company and invest the money into that company, then you may stay indefinitely to oversee and guide your investment, but due to the bad economy they'll already cave at 50k.

Edited August 9, 2011 by Nexus One

[thehead]

Have you looked at the immigration requirements for entry into the US? You need to have a lot of money for a start.

 

Of course, you could dye your hair black, grow a mustache, wear a sombrero and just walk across our southern border carrying drugs, like millions do every year.

 

Not a good look.

[Kitsune77]

If you work with the military , as an Aussie company, there are a lot of companies to partner with, so working there is not that difficult for us (being best buddies with the US and all)

[Els]

There are plenty of English-speaking people in other countries, though I met few in Japan and China. If you want to experience Asia and speak English easily, try Singapore. Never have had an issue there.

 

The OP doesn't seem to be looking to experience a country, so much as experiencing the women there. And as he considers it 'gold-digging' of a woman to want a guy to pay for a couple of dates, I really do not think he'll be happy in Singapore.

[Eternal Sunshine]

Okay, I used to like you...

 

D-lish, I have never been to Canada and I have only met about 3 Canadian women in my life. They were all loud and obnoxious. I shouldn't draw conclusions based on 3 women

[SomewhatExperienced]

It's funny, because I'm a Canadian and I returned a week ago from Australia where I spent five months. I find socially and culturally that Canadians and Australians are exactly the same. It was if there was no culture shock at all, as if I was in the same country but with different accents and weather.

 

I did find the women a bit different though, but KEEP IN MIND that I was in Melbourne, a very cosmopolitan city. Aussie women I found not overly open to friendly flirting. As if any suggestion that you're into them screams "I want to f*** you!" and you there's no response or you get the cold shoulder. The only way it seemed to get anything happening with a woman is if you're both sh**faced in a bar.

 

I'm from a medium sized Canadian city, as opposed to a large Australian one, and I find the women friendlier here. I can actually make eye-contact on the street sometimes and fire out a smile or just chat with a random stranger much more easily.

 

I think it would be more appropriate to say that the women [and men] will be very different from place to place that you visit. Smaller cities will tend to be more friendly. Huge cities... not so much.

 

I have little to no experience with American women, fyi.

[musemaj11]

The OP doesn't seem to be looking to experience a country, so much as experiencing the women there. And as he considers it 'gold-digging' of a woman to want a guy to pay for a couple of dates, I really do not think he'll be happy in Singapore.

Singaporean women are probably worth paying for a couple of dates for because I know as soon as we live together, Im never going to have to lift a finger at home again. Ever.

 

I will be a traditional man if the woman is truly traditional herself. If a woman is the kind who thinks a man should help around the house then I think she shouldn't also have a problem helping paying on dates. Im the fairest person in the world. I just do not like hypocrites very much.

Edited August 9, 2011 by musemaj11

[Els]

Singaporean women are probably worth paying for a couple of dates for because I know as soon as we live together, Im never going to have to lift a finger at home again. Ever.

 

I will be a traditional man if the woman is truly traditional herself. If a woman is the kind who thinks a man should help around the house then I think she shouldn't also have a problem helping paying on dates. Im the fairest person in the world. I just do not like hypocrites very much.

 

Ehhh.. no. They might cook a few meals for you if you are paying for a couple of dates (and not only dates, usually, also their clothes when you go shopping together), but a man only gets to 'never lift a finger at home' if he is singlehandedly providing for the family and the woman is a full-time housekeeper. At least, that is the case in modern families.

[carhill]

That makes sense. The OP has been pretty clear about what he defines as traditional. From my own data point, having grown up in a 'traditional' home, my dad never lifted a finger around the house, never saw the inside of a grocery store, had a gardener take care of the yard, etc, etc. His profession paid for the support of the then 'normal' lifestyle we led. My mom never worked regularly (for a wage) during my life, although she had a good job before I was born.

 

Hmm, maybe I'll check out the ladies a bit closer the next time I'm in Singapore.

[Els]

Yeah, it does make sense, I completely agree. I just didn't want the OP thinking that 'paying for a few dates' would entitle him to no housework ever, if he couldn't support the family on his wage.

 

Not ALL Singaporean households are that way, though, but with the way their economic climate and job satisfaction is right now, I'm pretty sure many of the ladies would welcome the opportunity to be a housewife. I know quite a few doctors, financial analysts, etc., who hate their jobs and hours, and would have quit if their husband's pay had allowed them to.

[carhill]

That's the beauty of flexibility. I saw the advantages of 'traditional' living, as well as being socialized into 'equality' by both parents. So, for myself, either way, or any range between, feels healthy. So far, my limited data points from dating internationally have found women who trend more to 'traditional', even if their apparent lifestyle appears more 'equal'. Hence, more experience is needed. Perhaps the OP could divert, as I did many years ago, a couple years local dating budget to travel and get out there. Never know what might turn up

[Ruby Slippers]

I think it also depends on where in America you are at, because I've heard that women from Texas and other parts of the west and south are much more approachable than women in the Northeast.

I think this is true. I'm from Texas, and my last boyfriend was from the Northeast. When I visited his hometown, I was shocked by how clipped and brusque the people were. In Texas, almost everybody is open, friendly, and approachable. The women in the Northeast seemed very icy and cynical to me. The men are no-nonsense, too.

 

While most people in the South are laid back and in no big hurry to do anything, Northeasterners always seem to be in a hurry. They have a way of getting things done. I did appreciate this about my bf. He was wound tight like a coil, very competitive, and extremely active and productive.

[musemaj11]

Ehhh.. no. They might cook a few meals for you if you are paying for a couple of dates (and not only dates, usually, also their clothes when you go shopping together), but a man only gets to 'never lift a finger at home' if he is singlehandedly providing for the family and the woman is a full-time housekeeper. At least, that is the case in modern families.

Oh please, Im well familiar with the reality of Asian households. In most Asian families (in Asia), women (my own mother included) do 80-100% of the households chores regardless they have their own career or not.

 

That is why all the Asian women I know who are married to American men say that their life is like a dream because American men are very undemanding compared to Asian men and at the same time American men still also expect to meet their traditional male responsibilities such as being the breadwinner. So its a win-win for them.

 

Yeah, it does make sense, I completely agree. I just didn't want the OP thinking that 'paying for a few dates' would entitle him to no housework ever, if he couldn't support the family on his wage.

I was just making a point that I treat people the way they treat me. If you expect me to do something simply due to my gender then I will do the same to you. And if you respect me as an equal human being then I will do the same unto you as well.

 

I know quite a few doctors, financial analysts, etc., who hate their jobs and hours, and would have quit if their husband's pay had allowed them to.

How about their husbands? Might it be possible that they, too hate their jobs? Edited August 10, 2011 by musemaj11

[Woggle]

I don't know why the Northeast gets the reputation for being rude. Come here and I can assure people are as friendly as can be. The accents tend to be very forceful sounding and people here are blunt and loud but they couldn't be nicer. I would not want to live in any other part of the country.

 

I find southerners to have this fake niceness to them that is very off putting. They might smile in your face but deep down you get the feeling they hate your guts. Of course not all are like that but the only time I have ever truly been scared was getting lost in the south and having to stop at this bar to use the bathroom. They looked at us like they wanted to kill us when down here in the NE most people will just flip you off and get on with their day.

 

I don't mean to stereotype but I get sick of my part of the country getting a rep it does not deserve.

[Els]

Oh please, Im well familiar with the reality of Asian households. In most Asian families (in Asia), women (my own mother included) do 80-100% of the households chores regardless they have their own career or not.

 

Yeah, the 40+ year old women like your mother do. The 20+ year old women do not usually put up with that anymore; those with careers will not do the housework, and vice versa. Paying for dates is something that many of those women sadly require of a man to even consider him, regardless of whether they would do the housework for him or not. Unless, of course, when you talk about potential mates for yourself, you ARE talking about 40+ year old women from a previous generation, not the 20+ year olds, in which case I apologize for my assumption. In the previous generations, women in poor families might still work, but men are still expected to be the breadwinner; few women will be willing to be with a man who earned less than them from the get-go.

 

How about their husbands? Might it be possible that they, too hate their jobs?

 

Sure they do. It's Singapore though. No woman is gonna support a man there, unless they're locked into marriage when the guy divebombs into bummery. Welcome to your dreamland.

[musemaj11]

Yeah, the 40+ year old women like your mother do. The 20+ year old women do not usually put up with that anymore; those with careers will not do the housework, and vice versa. Paying for dates is something that many of those women sadly require of a man to even consider him, regardless of whether they would do the housework for him or not. Unless, of course, when you talk about potential mates for yourself, you ARE talking about 40+ year old women from a previous generation, not the 20+ year olds, in which case I apologize for my assumption. In the previous generations, women in poor families might still work, but men are still expected to be the breadwinner; few women will be willing to be with a man who earned less than them from the get-go.

Screw Singaporean women, too then.

[zengirl]

Yeah, the 40+ year old women like your mother do. The 20+ year old women do not usually put up with that anymore; those with careers will not do the housework, and vice versa. Paying for dates is something that many of those women sadly require of a man to even consider him, regardless of whether they would do the housework for him or not. Unless, of course, when you talk about potential mates for yourself, you ARE talking about 40+ year old women from a previous generation, not the 20+ year olds, in which case I apologize for my assumption. In the previous generations, women in poor families might still work, but men are still expected to be the breadwinner; few women will be willing to be with a man who earned less than them from the get-go.

 

Yup. Well, in Korea, a lot of middle-class and up families have a housecleaner, as it's super cheap. And the apartments are small. In Japan, most of the households with younger matches, the men do chores too. Men are doing chores these days, just as women are working, and that's only going to improve as things go along. Asian families are no different unless you're talking the countryside. And then. . . well, you better be from that countryside and planning on staying there and doing some farming or whatever if you want to keep that lifestyle.

 

I don't know why the Northeast gets the reputation for being rude. Come here and I can assure people are as friendly as can be. The accents tend to be very forceful sounding and people here are blunt and loud but they couldn't be nicer. I would not want to live in any other part of the country.

 

I find southerners to have this fake niceness to them that is very off putting. They might smile in your face but deep down you get the feeling they hate your guts. Of course not all are like that but the only time I have ever truly been scared was getting lost in the south and having to stop at this bar to use the bathroom. They looked at us like they wanted to kill us when down here in the NE most people will just flip you off and get on with their day.

 

I don't mean to stereotype but I get sick of my part of the country getting a rep it does not deserve.

 

Most of my family is in the NE, and I have always lived in the South (SE and breadbasket and Texas, but never above the Mason Dixon line in the U.S.) and spent many, many summers in various parts of the NE. Really, there are loads of different people and different parts and trying to classify a giant region is difficult. Classifying individual towns is more do-able, and even then you have a range.