Are you serious? Really?

[Memphis Raines]

Really.

 

Are you serious think that people will take your point of view, just because of right and wrong?

 

I know, I fully realize hypocrites won't get it and see that they are complaining about something they shouldn't

 

 

You think cheaters will be humble and self-critical just because you have a moral high ground? You need to learn more about human nature.

 

didn't know it was considered a moral high ground to call people out on the behavior of screwing other people over. oh well.

 

learn more about human nature? who says I don't realize they will rationalize and that its human nature?

 

calling it human nature doesn't make it right. and it doesn't make them look any less hypocritical.

[Memphis Raines]

Thats people such as they are....yes this includes "innocent" BSers in these parts of the board too and the origination of this thread is case in point

 

i'm sorry. please enlighten.

 

who did I screw over only to turn around and cry about it happening back to me?

 

I think you need to learn the definition of the word hypocrite.

[Memphis Raines]

Oh and by the way: I slept just fine at nite when I WAS the BS/OW.....

 

well what does that say about someone who can sleep well at night when being someone that is a party to hurting someone else?

[StoneCold]

i'm sorry. please enlighten.

 

who did I screw over only to turn around and cry about it happening back to me?

 

I think you need to learn the definition of the word hypocrite.

 

 

I have no idea what you may have done to your spouse in your relationship...but I do know this.

 

1) Cheating is not the only way to hurt, screw over and or let someone down. Theres a plethora of ways to do it...Cheating is merely ONE... unfortunately many of you have a hard time undrstanding this which may lead one to conclude that its highly likely you will repeat your mistakes

 

and...

 

2) Granted there will always be anomalies....But there almost always is more to the story and when you dig deep enough it seems to get down to a destructive back and forth between both parties... Both made their contribution to the screwed up situation and it always seems to be the biggest WHINERS that are the biggest culprits because they are so damn dellusional.

 

I guess you need to get over your own delusion before you can see the tru hippocracy here

[StoneCold]

It says she is getting it more than Stone Cold.

 

According to what he posted in another thread he has sex about once a year with his spouse.

 

No wonder he is so bitter.

 

("Bitter," I love that word!)

 

Bitter? No... I may be getting it once a year from my spouse but I'm getting it many times a year elsewhere so I'm happy

[Memphis Raines]

I guess you need to get over your own delusion before you can see the tru hippocracy here

 

Nope, no delusions or hypocrisy here oh he who apologizes for aholes;)

[StoneCold]

There's obviously lots of things you have no idea about.

That doesn't seem to stop you from talking about them, though..

 

Doesnt seem to stop memphis or many of you either

 

 

 

 

Or maybe the problem is you're just not very attractive? ..

 

LMAO... thats what you've been reduced to?

 

 

 

What you don't seem to get is that other kinds of mistakes or errors don't justify cheating. Except I would have to agree that since your wife isn't sexually attracted to you, it's probably your fault somehow, so therefore, she's entitled to cheat on you. OK you've convinced me...

 

Nowhat you dont seem to get is you get just bring justification in and out as it serves you and then wonder why people cant take you seriously. What happened to justification when the other spouse did their share?...no where to be found... of course because it doesnt serve them does it?

 

LMAO...give up on th justification argument... you cant win

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmmm....interesting theory....let's see...your wife doesn't like to have sex with you....you whine and complain a lot.....I believe I might be forced to agree with your theory, at least as it applies to your own situation.......

 

Actually I dont whin and complain at all... I just acted in my best interest and call it a day. Only reason why you know this i because someone asked me.

 

 

 

 

 

I guess you need to find a woman who actually wants to have sex with you more frequently than once a year and maybe you will calm down a little bit.

 

I actually have.... many.....so as I said before... I'm good

[Memphis Raines]

Bitter? No... I may be getting it once a year from my spouse but I'm getting it many times a year elsewhere so I'm happy

 

I rest my case

[Lostinlife4now]

Memphis Raines!

 

Sleeping well at nite means I AM A GOOD SLEEPER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spark1111]

I have no idea what you may have done to your spouse in your relationship...but I do know this.

 

1) Cheating is not the only way to hurt, screw over and or let someone down. Theres a plethora of ways to do it...Cheating is merely ONE... unfortunately many of you have a hard time undrstanding this which may lead one to conclude that its highly likely you will repeat your mistakes

 

and...

 

2) Granted there will always be anomalies....But there almost always is more to the story and when you dig deep enough it seems to get down to a destructive back and forth between both parties... Both made their contribution to the screwed up situation and it always seems to be the biggest WHINERS that are the biggest culprits because they are so damn dellusional.

 

I guess you need to get over your own delusion before you can see the tru hippocracy here

 

I think memphis represents a large portion of the population who find cheating morally reprehensible and NEVER justified.

 

So what?

 

And Stone Cold, I do agree with you that cheating is not the only form of spousal abuse that can be perpetrated in a relationship.

 

I think those who try to understand why a person may cheat, STILL wonder why a relationship wasn't either fixed or ended first.

 

Call us pragmatic, or logical, or rational....BUT many people do think that way.

[KR10N]

You think cheaters will be humble and self-critical just because you have a moral high ground? You need to learn more about human nature.

Human nature can really bite the big one. I think these people could learn something from the animal kingdom, preferably penguins.

[KR10N]

LOL yes. I'm often reminded of the pygmy chimp when I read those fora.

lol. Humans are so complicated.

 

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/photos/11-animals-that-mate-for-life/old-faithful

[StoneCold]

I think memphis represents a large portion of the population who find cheating morally reprehensible and NEVER justified.

 

So what?

 

And Stone Cold, I do agree with you that cheating is not the only form of spousal abuse that can be perpetrated in a relationship.

 

I think those who try to understand why a person may cheat, STILL wonder why a relationship wasn't either fixed or ended first.

 

Call us pragmatic, or logical, or rational....BUT many people do think that way.

 

I agree....Memphis does indeed represent a large portion of the population that finds cheating wrong. I also think he represents a major flaw within this population. The problem with this population is they tend to relegate any other failure to a relatively small place because.... "at last they didnt cheat"

 

So they perpetrate their non cheating destructive garbage because this is "ok" by comparison...deeply hurting and disappointing their spouse (This is partly wahts wrong with many relationships today)...... and then are dumbfounded when their relationship goes to pot and has the nerve to put all the blame for the failure of their relationship on the spouse who cheated....like as if they are some sort of a victim that is pure as the driven snow.

 

 

its ridiculous.....

 

If I remember correctly I think one of the BSers here was even a physical abuser....Can you imagine?

 

" I mean I know I brained him a cast iron pan but c'moooon......HE RUINED OUR MARRIAGE BY CHEATING.....Hes the bad guy; poor me I'm the victim...............now wheres my beating stick"

 

LMAO...... WHAT?!??!?!

 

 

Now if many people think that way so be it. But if they are going to go casting stones they should be prepared to take a pelting as well....and they are very easy targets.

 

If you dont want to get pelted....throw no stones

Edited July 31, 2011 by StoneCold

[sally4sara]

Human nature can really bite the big one. I think these people could learn something from the animal kingdom, preferably penguins.

 

?

 

Penguins are only monogamous for one breeding season so I don't think things would improve if we followed their example.

[StoneCold]

Stone cold - you're an idiot.

 

Memphis - spot on. The entitlement and justifications are staggering. To be fair though, its not by all posters, or even the majority, but it does seem the minority are very vocal. Maybe its a case of protesting too much?

 

 

Another mindless delusional...but thats most people in this part of the board so what th hell

[KR10N]

?

 

Penguins are only monogamous for one breeding season so I don't think things would improve if we followed their example.

It depends on the species. Emperor penguins are monogamous. Point is be faithful.

[nyrias]

Human nature can really bite the big one. I think these people could learn something from the animal kingdom, preferably penguins.

 

Just because they don't cheat? Fault or not, immoral or not, humans are masters of this planet and penguins .. they dont even have air-conditioning when they need it.

 

i don't think "not cheating" is the most important quality humans should improve. I think "not killing each other" may rank higher.

[rafallus]

I think "not killing each other" may rank higher.

And throughout history humanity failed that one miserably as well.

[StoneCold]

Unfortunately it's not a large enough portion of the populace.

 

Case in point

 

 

 

No, you actually don't think that. What you're all about is having an unhappy, sexless marriage; cheating with other women to find sexual satisfaction, but you know that's not really how you want your life to be; and because of the conflict of feeling yourself "forced" to do something you know is wrong, have reacted by going on a "crusade" to "prove" that, because YOU feel yourself "forced" to cheat, then cheating per se must be OK, no matter who does it, and no matter why they do it.

 

Rather than just face up to the obvious reality that something is seriously wrong in your marriage--not necessarily all your fault--leading to a lack of sex--and you cheated out of physical need--but nevertheless that's a messed-up place to be in your life. Because what you've described--a sexless marriage over a period of at least six years that you apparently don't have the ability nor the balls to leave, and to which you've now responded by becoming a serial cheater yourself--is something that you can't figure out how to fix, probably because it can't be fixed at this point. Yet you're too much of a coward to just get divorced, or remain celibate, or at least continue to cheat but acknowledge that it's not some ideal state of affairs just because you happen to be experiencing it.

 

 

LOL...heres someone that knows nothing about me telling me about me... You dont even know my whole situation lol

 

1) I never said cheating was ok.... I simply dont care about "right" and "wrong" in this instance

 

2) How do you know I havent met hte problem head on and have my own little exit plan? No you dont....but like to appear you do ....your a joke.

 

3) Too much of a coward to get divorced? No I'm simply not STUPID (like you ) to get a divorce when it doesnt suit me

 

4) Too much of a coward to remain celebate? LMAO...too funny....No, I'm simply not a sackless loser that lets others influence me....I care not to be celibate so continue on with my sex life is exactly what I will do....remains celibate...ROTFLMFAO...why should I do that?

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

The irony is you're probably a crappy husband and a crappy person in many other ways aside from the serial cheating which you blame on the lack of sex from your wife. Usually it's the cheater in a relationship who is the cause of most of the problems and dysfunctions in the relationship, even aside from the cheating.

 

LMAO...this is too easy... case in point yet again... there is your gutles convenient use of "justification"...

 

For the record...no I'm not a perfect husband... I have my other failings in my relationship and I can admit this. and if everthing comes to a head and goes south prematurely I can take responsibility for my failings in my marriage and part responsibility for the ultimate failure of my marriage. The difference between a guy like me and a spineless person like you is I can take responsibility for this... BSers YOU cannot (even if you divorce you still live in denial and will likely repeat your errors...go on and perpetrate your bull**** and get cheated on again. I'll laugh my ass off). And thats what tells me how insignificant you are which is why I'm not even taking this "debate" (and I use the term very loosely) seriously. This is all entertainment value for me as this is too funny.

 

 

No what's ridiculous is that you're in full rationalization mode. You can't even make a distinction between why you have chosen to cheat and the fact that everyone else doesn't need to cheat in order for you to be able to justify your cheating.

 

 

You keep going back to this "justification" argument aftr I killed it a long time a go.... got not a whole hell of a lot do you?

 

 

 

I'm sure a far greater percentage of cheaters are physical abusers then are betrayed spouses. You found one counter example so you think that proves a point? That just goes to show that you're completely irrational.

 

I could go on forever with examples but it wouldnt be RATIONAL to write every single example now would it?. A RATIONAL person would have seen that....but its you we are talking about here so I guess I cant be surprised.

 

 

 

 

 

Your wife didn't beat you, did she?

 

No... but what difference would it make anyways? Whats your "point"?

 

 

 

 

. No one else needs to throw a single pebble at you. Your own actions stoned yourself..

 

Opinions vary

 

 

You haven't figured out that no one cares what you think because you're not rational.

 

Well you can beleive what you want....but I've had BSers pm me because in as much as they find my style abbrasive......they tend to agree with a lot of my points.

 

Be that as it may I'm done with you... your a joke, you have no argument and this is getting boring.

 

buhbye

Edited July 31, 2011 by StoneCold

[Mz. Pixie]

Usually it's the cheater in a relationship who is the cause of most of the problems and dysfunctions in the relationship, even aside from the cheating.

 

 

 

 

.

 

Amazing. Willard Harley is one of the most successful authors on marriage and wrote "His Needs/Her Needs-How to affair proof your marriage" and the founder of Marriage Builders. He is also considered one of the foremost authorities on infidelity and marriage. This is not his opinion. Maybe you should write a book instead and see if you could sell more copies?

 

This may have been true in your situation and I'm not saying it wasn't but it's a generalization to say it's the truth in every situation. Unfortunately it's just not that simple.

[StoneCold]

Amazing. Willard Harley is one of the most successful authors on marriage and wrote "His Needs/Her Needs-How to affair proof your marriage" and the founder of Marriage Builders. He is also considered one of the foremost authorities on infidelity and marriage. This is not his opinion. Maybe you should write a book instead and see if you could sell more copies?

.

 

LOL...word of advice Repairminded.... if you do decide to publish your drivel....dont quit your day job

 

ROTFLMFAO

[Tech_E]

LOL...word of advice Repairminded.... if you do decide to publish your drivel....dont quit your day job

 

ROTFLMFAO

 

With his ego he just might. Or maybe he is already published... In his world anyway :bunny:

[Tech_E]

Well you can beleive what you want....but I've had BSers pm me because in as much as they find my style abbrasive......they tend to agree with a lot of my points.

 

Be that as it may I'm done with you... your a joke, you have no argument and this is getting boring.

 

buhbye

 

Well put Stonecold, well put indeed. You and I have had our disagreements in the past, but I at least respect your posts as you obviously care about those that are looking for help.

[Tech_E]

yer cute RM/Dex/JMK

[KR10N]

Just because they don't cheat? Fault or not, immoral or not, humans are masters of this planet and penguins .. they dont even have air-conditioning when they need it.

 

i don't think "not cheating" is the most important quality humans should improve. I think "not killing each other" may rank higher.

Good grief, you actually had to go & completely miss the point. This is a thread regarding the cheaters getting bashed in their little section of the LS threads, not people who have killing sprees.

 

How about everyone just be good to one another?