are all good looking women self-entitled?

[Easyguy14]

this is my first time here on loveshack. I got a pof account and posted on there but alot of people act rude with smart remarks. no help there. I was hoping to get some help on this site so here goes.

 

I noticed alot of attractive girls have this self-entitled attitude about them and its unfair. Im a nice guy, treat people the way I wanna be treated but this seems to only work with regular normal people. once in a while I come across a man that acts like a jerk but this is rare on first meeting but with the good looking girls they act cold, mean alot, and its wrong. I notice this trend everywhere i go basically.

 

lets talk about yesterday when I went to the shoe store. I tried to get one of the people in there to help me. I tried to get this guy to help me but he was tied up with multiple customers and there was just one person at the register so I couldn't go to use her. I was left with just this young, attractive salesgirl on the floor and she was so stuck up. I politely told her its just a job and Im sure its not so bad to be looking so serious. I was just trying to not get into a confrontation with her by holding back.

 

these issues have been happening alot, especially this summer but almost every year and everywhere I go for service. even passing in the streets it is the same thing. average women seem normal, glance at you, and keep on their way. the pretty to beautiful women look mean and angry. Im not one of those creeps staring at them. I just glance and they lock up.

 

maybe its a new york thing I dont know but Im sure theres guys on here that know what I mean.

[SteveC80]

Most even semi cute women are treated like mini celebrities so of course allot will act entitled

 

I blame allot of it on Men with spoil these women and let em get away with any bs because they look good

 

Its like raising a child in that if you spoil him all their life never discipline or call em out on their bs theyre gonna grow up to be spoiled and entitled because theyre always used to getting their way

 

That's whats happened with allot of women until men stop spoiling and treatign em like their perfect and their sh-t doesnt stink theyll continue to be entitled and stuck up

[Mrlonelyone]

1.) I'm sure what you are describing is a very NYC thing. Here in Chicago people are generally friendly unless you give them a reason not to be. That's just the way the midwest is.

 

2.)What you are seeing is what's known as "b1tch face". Women will put on a b1tch face and it often has nothing to do with anyone around. Womens emotions show on their face so if someone is thinking about something intense or irritating...there you go.

(This even happens to me. I'll be thinking about what an a$$ hole my dept head is, or the bad economy, and people will ask why I look so serious etc.)

 

3.) Some very attractive women, women who think they are attractive do have an entitled attitude but they won't use b1tch face. They will try to manipulate you with their feminine wiles (See Sarah Palin in the 2008 Presidential debates).

[FitChick]

I noticed alot of attractive girls have this self-entitled attitude about them and its unfair. I notice this trend everywhere i go basically. these issues have been happening alot, especially this summer but almost every year and everywhere I go for service. even passing in the streets it is the same thing.

 

It sounds like you are the one who feels entitled to date women who are out of your league. Why don't you find a nice, plain girl who would be happy to know you?

[LoveandSuch]

There is no truth to this, I have encountered more plain janes, and average marys, who are the coldest, stick up their *sses around. Nice looking woman for the majority are pleasant and happy go lucky. Nicer looking people get treated better. A man will jump back more feet than neccesary to open a door for you. They just smile like loons in general, it is funny. You get better reception and commentary from strangers throughout the day.

It most likely has to do with personal issues of that individual. Also you have to take in consideration that some people can look mean or angry when they are just walking in thought, when face is relaxed, and it is not their actual stance.

[ptp]

In my experience, I have not met many women who are truly attractive (10/10s) who are also nice. I am sure they exist, I just haven't run across them.

 

Our society to so based on looks that girls like that get whatever they want and seem to have an over inflated ego.

 

I was at subway the other day and this smoking hot girl and her friend were in line before me. The 2 girls were basically ignoring the subway guy. They had 2 foot long subs made and tried to get the guy to give the subs to them for free.

 

After the guy wouldn't they got pissed and started making fun of him because he was nerdy looking. They ended paying for only 1 sub wasting the other sub and wasting everybody's time.

[Mrlonelyone]

It sounds like you are the one who feels entitled to date women who are out of your league. Why don't you find a nice, plain girl who would be happy to know you?

 

If you read carefully he's not talking about dating these women per se. He's talking about trying to get help in a shoe store.

 

He's just noticing that many women suffer from Chronic b1tch face.

 

Kind of like this http://prettyboring.com/files/images/reese%20bitchface.png

 

This poster says it all.

 

http://blog.krisatomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/krisatomic-cheeruplove.jpg

[thatone]

It sounds like you are the one who feels entitled to date women who are out of your league. Why don't you find a nice, plain girl who would be happy to know you?

 

 

so you try to dispel his argument by being the type of person he's talking about. interesting tactic. completely irrational and nonsensical, but interesting!

[iris219]

 

I politely told her its just a job and Im sure its not so bad to be looking so serious.

 

This was unnecessary and impolite for you to say. Maybe you’re not as nice as you think?

 

Not wanting to engage with you beyond a professional level does not make someone stuck up.

 

How a woman looks does not cause her to act a certain way. Some attractive women are b—ches, just like some ugly women are.

[thatone]

This was unnecessary and impolite for you to say. Maybe you’re not as nice as you think?

 

Not wanting to engage with you beyond a professional level does not make someone stuck up.

 

How a woman looks does not cause her to act a certain way. Some attractive women are b—ches, just like some ugly women are.

 

i didn't read that he asked anything of her but to help with shoes, and she is in fact working in a shoe store.

 

he didn't say the asked her anything non-professional

[irc333]

Most even semi cute women are treated like mini celebrities so of course allot will act entitled

 

 

 

I tend to agree, esp. with some of the ones that have been on there for a while...there's about handful of women on POF that I think are there ONLY for attention. ....they treat POF as if it were an extension of Facebook.

 

Some actually put in a way to go look them up on FB to see the rest of them. LOL

 

Some actually go out of their way to get professionally done modeling pics of them in bikinis or night club attire....and strew their dating profile with sexy pics. Sexy poses, treating the site as if it was "Miss Hawaiian Tropic" photoshoot. LOL

 

They get inundated with emails from men, but probably rarely date them.

[iris219]

i didn't read that he asked anything of her but to help with shoes, and she is in fact working in a shoe store.

 

he didn't say the asked her anything non-professional

 

He said she was stuck up, but never explained how or why.

 

He asked her why she was taking her job so seriously. I would have been annoyed by this.

 

I hate when people (and it's always guys) do the "SMILE! It can't be that bad" thing while I'm drinking coffee, trying to work, and minding my own business at a coffeeshop. What he did sounded similar.

[FitChick]

This was unnecessary and impolite for you to say. Maybe you’re not as nice as you think?

 

Not wanting to engage with you beyond a professional level does not make someone stuck up.

 

Exactly. He sounds like most people with low self-esteem. They think the world revolves around them, everyone is thinking about them, talking about them, criticizing them, etc. It's his lack of confidence that turns women off, would be my guess. "Poor me" isn't attractive whether it's a male or female.

[Easyguy14]

It sounds like you are the one who feels entitled to date women who are out of your league. Why don't you find a nice, plain girl who would be happy to know you?

 

I dont believe in leagues. its all about the connection. you wont know of it if you dont try correct? Im not even trying to be bothered with these cute attractive females anyway because I see where they are coming from and I want no part in it. Im all for dating an average looking girl as long as she is fit and very approachable. Im just not seeing many of those types alot.

 

Im just saying that the self-entitled girls throw up walls after walls and Im not even one of those guys trying to break it down. I dont even bother to talk to them really. Im referring to having to deal with them in the services field and they suck.

[irc333]

I hate when people (and it's always guys) do the "SMILE! It can't be that bad" thing while I'm drinking coffee, trying to work, and minding my own business at a coffeeshop. What he did sounded similar

Funny, I was JUST about to reply with the, "SMILE...." thing, some men do it as an icebreaker believe it or not, and of course women who are annoyed by this, well, are people that you would probably not want to associate with, much less be friends with. This is a person with a negative attitude.

 

Actually, my dad does this a lot, of course he doesn't give a rats ass that it pisses them off, in fact, if he does get the vibe it does irritate the person, he continues to "kill them with kindness".

 

He tends to go on about how people have these perpetual "sour pusses" on their faces, and will deliberately do the, "Smiiille" thing or something similar with them.

 

I tend to agree and have been known to do the "Smiile, it can't be that bad" thing as well. Women who have a problem with this, well, that says a lot about them.

 

Some men, over time, know this irritates SOME women, and can use this as a test of her response, and can determine if it's a deal breaker or not.

Edited August 1, 2011 by irc333

[Easyguy14]

Exactly. He sounds like most people with low self-esteem. They think the world revolves around them, everyone is thinking about them, talking about them, criticizing them, etc. It's his lack of confidence that turns women off, would be my guess. "Poor me" isn't attractive whether it's a male or female.

 

I really have no clue what your talking about but whatever. you generalize and then assume because I wanted service in a store I want a date? Ok.

[Queen Zenobia]

Not too long ago I went to a shoe store looking to buy some new running shoes. I looked around for a good 10 minutes no one approached me nor was anyone around for me to approach. I left and got shoes somewhere else. Another time someone did help me (I guess he was a new guy) as I asked him for another pair of shoes to try he looked at his watch and said "I got to go", then left.

 

Perhaps shoe stores just happen to hire people with poor customer service, and it has nothing to do with good looking women being self entitled...

[LoveandSuch]

Upbringing plays a huge role in friendliness and kindness toward others. Plus, locality. A few bad apples does not make a group as a whole.

However, there are mean good looking girls out there, and it is fun to watch these same stuffy self entitled girls, faces melt and body language go stiff and erratic, and faces pudge up when a smiling, vivacious, friendly, tigress enters the same room as them. They are astonishingly transparent.

[Queen Zenobia]

I really have no clue what your talking about but whatever. you generalize and then assume because I wanted service in a store I want a date? Ok.

 

Granted I sympathize with your desire for good customer service, but you did post this in the "dating" section. I can imagine that might confuse some people as to what your purpose is.

[iris219]

Funny, I was JUST about to reply with the, "SMILE...." thing, some men do it as an icebreaker believe it or not, and of course women who are annoyed by this, well, are people that you would probably not want to associate with, much less be friends with. This is a person with a negative attitude.

 

Actually, my dad does this a lot, of course he doesn't give a rats ass that it pisses them off, in fact, if he does get the vibe it does irritate the person, he continues to "kill them with kindness".

 

He tends to go on about how people have these perpetual "sour pusses" on their faces, and will deliberately do the, "Smiiille" thing or something similar with them.

 

I tend to agree and have been known to do the "Smiile, it can't be that bad" thing as well. Women who have a problem with this, well, that says a lot about them.

 

Some men, over time, know this irritates SOME women, and can use this as a test of her response, and can determine if it's a deal breaker or not.

 

Oh no, you’re that guy!

 

I seriously can’t imagine ANY woman liking this. We’ve all heard it before. It’s especially annoying when we’re in a good mood, but preoccupied with something. Being busy doesn’t mean we're self absorbed or that we have perpetual bit0h face. This comment would make me not like someone I might have otherwise liked.

 

It is funny you were going post about this because I was just having this conversation with some girlfriends. The girl who brought it up works at a bank, so she gets it often, and it’s one of her major pet peeves. She HATES it. We all agreed that this was one of the ultimate in annoying things a man can do.

 

Afterwards, I asked my mom if men do this her and she said, “Yep. Men are so stupid.” LOL!

 

Your dad walks up to people leaned over their laptops and interepts them with that comment? He's lucky he's old! FTR, I let old men get away being annoying because, well, they’re old, and I’m very respectful to the elderly. And I expect old men to be a bit clueless. Younger men should know better.

[Mme. Chaucer]

What do you even mean by "self-entitled"?

 

You are not the first guy who has posted here on LS about being rude to a saleswoman JUST because you thought they were good looking.

 

In your OP, I did not get the impression that she was shirking her duties, simply that she looked "serious."

 

Anyway, it has nothing to do with being "self-entitled" if a person is, in fact, bad at customer service. It just means ... they are doing a bad job.

 

MEN AND WOMEN ARE ENTITLED TO SEEK A RELATIONSHIP WITH A PERSON WHOM THEY FIND ATTRACTIVE AND WHO OFFERS WHAT THEY DEEM IMPORTANT IN A RELATIONSHIP.

[Star_Bright]

Funny, I was JUST about to reply with the, "SMILE...." thing, some men do it as an icebreaker believe it or not, and of course women who are annoyed by this, well, are people that you would probably not want to associate with, much less be friends with. This is a person with a negative attitude.

 

Actually, my dad does this a lot, of course he doesn't give a rats ass that it pisses them off, in fact, if he does get the vibe it does irritate the person, he continues to "kill them with kindness".

 

He tends to go on about how people have these perpetual "sour pusses" on their faces, and will deliberately do the, "Smiiille" thing or something similar with them.

 

I tend to agree and have been known to do the "Smiile, it can't be that bad" thing as well. Women who have a problem with this, well, that says a lot about them.

 

Some men, over time, know this irritates SOME women, and can use this as a test of her response, and can determine if it's a deal breaker or not.

 

Wow this would most definitely annoy me and be a deal-breaker for sure. Deal-breaker? I wouldn't even talk to you after you annoyingly told me to "smiiiiiiiile" just because I was looking pensive over something in my own head. Ugh.

 

And I'm a nice person, maybe too nice. I'm accused by friends and family members of letting people walk on me, of being too naive and taking unknowing risks, such as, if a guy comes up to me in the Subway I'll give him money or listen to his story, or if someone comes and knocks on my door to sell me magazines because they just got out of jail. I'm happy to talk to anyone who has sincere intentions (and granted sometimes I mistake them for being sincere when they're not), but playing a stupid game of coming up to me and telling me to "smiiiiiiile" just because you think it's funny and because you deem my response to that to be a deal-breaker or not? Umm no thanks, please annoy the next girl because this one's not interested and it has nothing to with being stuck-up and everything to do with having a little class and originality when you come up to me and try to start an "ice-breaker." There are much better ways to strike a conversation than this overly used tactic!

[zengirl]

this is my first time here on loveshack. I got a pof account and posted on there but alot of people act rude with smart remarks. no help there. I was hoping to get some help on this site so here goes.

 

I noticed alot of attractive girls have this self-entitled attitude about them and its unfair. Im a nice guy, treat people the way I wanna be treated but this seems to only work with regular normal people. once in a while I come across a man that acts like a jerk but this is rare on first meeting but with the good looking girls they act cold, mean alot, and its wrong. I notice this trend everywhere i go basically.

 

lets talk about yesterday when I went to the shoe store. I tried to get one of the people in there to help me. I tried to get this guy to help me but he was tied up with multiple customers and there was just one person at the register so I couldn't go to use her. I was left with just this young, attractive salesgirl on the floor and she was so stuck up. I politely told her its just a job and Im sure its not so bad to be looking so serious. I was just trying to not get into a confrontation with her by holding back.

 

these issues have been happening alot, especially this summer but almost every year and everywhere I go for service. even passing in the streets it is the same thing. average women seem normal, glance at you, and keep on their way. the pretty to beautiful women look mean and angry. Im not one of those creeps staring at them. I just glance and they lock up.

 

maybe its a new york thing I dont know but Im sure theres guys on here that know what I mean.

 

What was she doing that was so snotty? Just looking serious? While I give you that people should generally be a bit bubbly in customer service, I don't see that as snotty . . . maybe not really a good fit for a customer industry, but that's another story.

 

I'm a pretty girl, and I go around with a variety of faces: bitchface (if I want people to stay away), normal face (which probably looks serious), and approach-me-face (if I'm in the mood to socialize). I also have a variety of moods that affect my face in ways I'm not even counting there.

 

But it does really bother me, conversely, when strangers want me to be randomly smiling everywhere I go. I'm a happy person, but I think that's pretty lame. The other night, I was not even scowling or unhappy or anything. . . just neutral face, kind of thinking about something as I walked, and a lame-o guy said, "You dropped your smile." That made me angry. It would've made me angry if he were cute (actually I didn't even catch what he looked like, really). Or if I were ugly. Why is anyone else worried about my face? I'm not bothering anyone with it.

 

So perhaps you're just expecting too much of beautiful girls. Why should they be smiling and happy as they walk about the streets, especially in NYC where plenty of people go around not making eye contact with anyone and looking plenty cold and serious?

[Star_Bright]

Oh no, you’re that guy!

 

I seriously can’t imagine ANY woman liking this. We’ve all heard it before. It’s especially annoying when we’re in a good mood, but preoccupied with something. Being busy doesn’t mean we're self absorbed or that we have perpetual bit0h face. This comment would make me not like someone I might have otherwise liked.

 

It is funny you were going post about this because I was just having this conversation with some girlfriends. The girl who brought it up works at a bank, so she gets it often, and it’s one of her major pet peeves. She HATES it. We all agreed that this was one of the ultimate in annoying things a man can do.

 

Afterwards, I asked my mom if men do this her and she said, “Yep. Men are so stupid.” LOL!

 

Your dad walks up to people leaned over their laptops and interepts them with that comment? He's lucky he's old! FTR, I let old men get away being annoying because, well, they’re old, and I’m very respectful to the elderly. And I expect old men to be a bit clueless. Younger men should know better.

 

Exactly... if we're being pensive, we obviously have a lot on our minds. Maybe we ARE in a bad mood, maybe we're determined to figure something out, maybe we're just busy with work. But someone coming up and sticking their nose in our faces and saying "SMIIIIIILE" is not going to help anything! Sure, maybe we would welcome the chance for a good laugh or conversation, but if so, that's not the way to go about it. Come up with something original, even something like, "I can tell you're daydreaming about that beach vacation you have planned, right?", or SOMETHING, other than what every other guy does that just annoys us even further.

[zengirl]

Oh no, you’re that guy!

 

I seriously can’t imagine ANY woman liking this. We’ve all heard it before. It’s especially annoying when we’re in a good mood, but preoccupied with something. Being busy doesn’t mean we're self absorbed or that we have perpetual bit0h face. This comment would make me not like someone I might have otherwise liked.

 

So. Much. Word.

 

Granted, if it's an employee in a store who is supposed to be relatively friendly, and she's scowling at you. . . well, she's kind of being bitchy. Though telling her to smile will likely only make her bitchy AND angry. But honestly, you get crap salespeople, male and female, beautiful and ugly, and that's a different matter.