Dating girl half my age

[thatone]

Why don't you help her find a good job? If you are so successful financially, you should have business connections, right? It's called networking and a skill everyone needs.

 

Otherwise offer her money with no strings attached. If she refuses? Game over for you, buddy! You will always have porn though.

 

 

because i'm betting he's not oprah.

[D-Lish]

Thank you everyone for the change of tone. I accept blame for not being clearer from the get go.

 

You're right that I should drop the manipulation tactics and be more honest. To me life is a series of flings and I'll never settle down, she has a right to know this. I've always (well mostly) been good about not promising a long term relationship to the women I date.

 

I confess a certain insecurity that a 20 year old would bed a man my age. I think financial wealth needs to demonstrated to make me more attractive to her. I would have some hope that I could win her over the conventional way, but it is farther fetched.

 

I'd like to at least maintain an illusion that the money is help for a friend and not for sex. I think she'd rather it be that way.

 

 

And so would you right? This is why our ego invented "denial"...It's a pretty little avoidance mechanism that we can use to our advantage- so why wouldn't we trust our ego.

 

I think you should should only agree to a semester to semester agreement- I can tell you from experience that a guy at 19 starts to lose his charm by the time he turns 21... you begin to get bored (I know you know what I mean).

 

It's almost worth setting it up as a scholarship program- you pay for them to get into the front door (or you getting into their front door) ((or back door depending on the "scholarship'))- yet you have something new and fresh coming into the door you've created year after year.

 

Win-Win!!! Once they hit 23ish, they start to develop these ideas of independance and equal rights... That's where the "scholarship" should end- when they develop a free thinking mind, they become useless, and therefore left to their own devices.

 

GoldPile Scholarship- that's what we shall call this.

[KathyM]

Thank you everyone for the change of tone. I accept blame for not being clearer from the get go.

 

You're right that I should drop the manipulation tactics and be more honest. To me life is a series of flings and I'll never settle down, she has a right to know this. I've always (well mostly) been good about not promising a long term relationship to the women I date.

 

I confess a certain insecurity that a 20 year old would bed a man my age. I think financial wealth needs to demonstrated to make me more attractive to her. I would have some hope that I could win her over the conventional way, but it is farther fetched.

 

I'd like to at least maintain an illusion that the money is help for a friend and not for sex. I think she'd rather it be that way.

Doesn't it bother you to think that she may only be dating you because of the money? Wouldn't you rather be valued as a person and not a bank account? I think your values are kind of screwed up. I don't know why men bother to chase after women so very much younger than them. Unless they're a gold digger, chances are they'll dump you for a younger guy eventually. Of course, maybe you don't care if that happens, as long as you're getting some action for a while. I would think you would want more out of life than that.

[Gold Pile]

And so would you right? This is why our ego invented "denial"...It's a pretty little avoidance mechanism that we can use to our advantage- so why wouldn't we trust our ego.

 

I think you should should only agree to a semester to semester agreement- I can tell you from experience that a guy at 19 starts to lose his charm by the time he turns 21... you begin to get bored (I know you know what I mean).

 

It's almost worth setting it up as a scholarship program- you pay for them to get into the front door (or you getting into their front door) ((or back door depending on the "scholarship'))- yet you have something new and fresh coming into the door you've created year after year.

 

Win-Win!!! Once they hit 23ish, they start to develop these ideas of independance and equal rights... That's where the "scholarship" should end- when they develop a free thinking mind, they become useless, and therefore left to their own devices.

 

GoldPile Scholarship- that's what we shall call this.

You're right about the denial. You're a hoot:laugh: on the rest of it. i think a monthly credit card bill would be less commitment then an entire semester (cheaper too).

[ThsAmericanLife]

I don't know why men bother to chase after women so very much younger than them.

 

I do... I've listed them all... none of them are healthy, especially not for the young lady.

 

It is selfish, ego driven, blood sucking behavior.

[Gold Pile]

Doesn't it bother you to think that she may only be dating you because of the money? Wouldn't you rather be valued as a person and not a bank account? I think your values are kind of screwed up. I don't know why men bother to chase after women so very much younger than them. Unless they're a gold digger, chances are they'll dump you for a younger guy eventually. Of course, maybe you don't care if that happens, as long as you're getting some action for a while. I would think you would want more out of life than that.

 

A fling with a 20 year old:love: is a real treat for someone my age! Usually I have to date fossils over the age of 35;). I do value mature women too.

[Lovelybird]

 

 

Diamond is one kind of fossils

[Gold Pile]

Why don't you help her find a good job? If you are so successful financially, you should have business connections, right? It's called networking and a skill everyone needs.

Indeed I do have some modest business connections. She will be marketable when she has her degree, but right now she's just another unskilled worker with very little work history. I'd have to con someone into hiring her into a job she isn't qualified for. This wouldn't be good for her or the employer, and it would be knowingly dishonest on my part. I may not be perfect but I am fairly honest.

[giuliano-3]

I do... I've listed them all... none of them are healthy, especially not for the young lady.

 

It is selfish, ego driven, blood sucking behavior.

 

Weird. So me being 14 years older than the girl I date means I'm selfish and/or an ego driven blood sucking d-bag? I can't help the fact that women my age are not attracted to me and never have been. I made it through high school and a year of college without having sex once. Not out of choice. Not cool.

 

Now I happen to look about 10 years younger than I am, am not wealthy or even remotely well-off financially. Younger women are just attracted to me. My last 5 girlfriends were 19, 20, 22, 21, 22 years old when we started going out. I'm 34 now.

 

I'd like to think a reason why some younger women are attracted to a guy like me is they know (from others) that I treat women with respect, never cheat or flirt openly while having a GF and know how to please a women in more ways than one. Meaning not just sexually if you're puzzling over that one. Unlike most boys their age. That's right. Boys. You may have big muscles, fake tan, and a tight fitting "tap-out" shirt on but that doesn't make you a man.

 

For the record, though, this Goldfinger guy makes me want to projectile vomit. Dude. Go to Eastern Europe. It will be cheaper than paying college tuition/credit card bills. Sorry if I should be nicer, but your avatar shows what your name doesn't. That you hold your wealth and its benifits over the rest of us peons. I'm sure you're a nice guy though, you can buy me some beers and a shot anytime. What would I have to do to get you to pay my credit card bill? I don't mind prostituting myself, heck it sounds positively fun at this juncture in my life. You are the reason why so many girls get jaded at this world and the men in it. Again, sorry if I'm out of line here. This just hit a nerve I guess.

[FitChick]

To me life is a series of flings and I'll never settle down

I confess a certain insecurity that a 20 year old would bed a man my age. I think financial wealth needs to demonstrated to make me more attractive to her.

 

Classic fear of intimacy and a belief that you are not lovable. Putting a layer of money between you and a woman makes you feel safer. Google the Lefkoe Institute and have a few sessions by phone or order the DVDs. You can certainly afford it and you will feel a lot better about yourself and relationships afterward. I think Morty Lefkoe might be giving money back guarantees these days, but I can't promise anything.

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

TTo me life is a series of flings and I'll never settle down, she has a right to know this. I've always (well mostly) been good about not promising a long term relationship to the women I date.

 

So you will never love her, because you've never loved any one and you will never love anyone. It's plain and simple: you want her for sex. After she has attached herself to you (because that's what happens to women in sex, especially very young ones) you will throw her away like used pair of socks for some other man to deal with her trauma of being used like a tramp by an older man.

 

You deserve a trophy for nothingness and destruction.

 

Sorry, just saying it the way it is.

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

For the record, though, this Goldfinger guy makes me want to projectile vomit. Dude. Go to Eastern Europe. It will be cheaper than paying college tuition/credit card bills.

 

Are you implying that Eastern Europe is a land of cheap sluts who will put out to any American with their worthless dollars. That you can go to Eastern Europe and pollute the women and after you've had you fill come back and be "proper husband and fathers" here.

You are kidding yourself, I guarantee you that much.

[giuliano-3]

Are you implying that Eastern Europe is a land of cheap sluts who will put out to any American with their worthless dollars. That you can go to Eastern Europe and pollute the women and after you've had you fill come back and be "proper husband and fathers" here.

You are kidding yourself, I guarantee you that much.

 

Yes and no. EE is a land where girls are forced into a life of prostitution at a young age. Sold by their family. Not all, most or many. But some. So yes, cheap sluts for wealthy international (not just american) men - but not really their choice in many cases. Very sad stuff, and I'm not making light of it.

 

What I was suggesting is that Scrooge McDuck take his pile of gold and buy himself a wife to take back stateside. That this action would indeed be much cheaper (one down payment) than continually preying on young women with no money to do sexual favors for him. This way he also dodges the whole akward "am I buying a prostitute" thing in a more healthy way.

 

And I take cheating very seriously. Probably almost puritanical in my belief on cheating. People who cheat are, to me, some of the lowest scum on Earth. So I'd never advocate someone cheating then coming back here and faking like nothing happened. Actually, rereading what you wrote to GoldPile just now, I think we're actually on the same page. What's your problem with me?

Edited August 19, 2011 by giuliano-3

[Gold Pile]

.........you will throw her away like used pair of socks for some other man to deal with her trauma of being used like a tramp by an older man......

 

Why would I dump a woman half my age?too much sex?? Typically my past friends found me likable and talented. Thats all many of them wanted, others wanted more but slowly came around to the fact that I wouldn't settle down with them (as I had made clear from the start). I didn't dump them, they dumped me. I'm still friendly with most(not all) and even get a booty call now and then.

[D-Lish]

Why would I dump a woman half my age?too much sex?? Typically my past friends found me likable and talented. Thats all many of them wanted, others wanted more but slowly came around to the fact that I wouldn't settle down with them (as I had made clear from the start). I didn't dump them, they dumped me. I'm still friendly with most(not all) and even get a booty call now and then.

 

What happens as you get older and they get to the 30-35 range?

 

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

Why would I dump a woman half my age?too much sex?? Typically my past friends found me likable and talented. Thats all many of them wanted, others wanted more but slowly came around to the fact that I wouldn't settle down with them (as I had made clear from the start). I didn't dump them, they dumped me. I'm still friendly with most(not all) and even get a booty call now and then.

 

 

Leave this young woman alone. Do her a favor. Do her parents a favor; and don't prey on her. Continue receiving whatever calls from whoever, or simply pay prostitutes. You don't want love and commitment and you say you have money; why not just hire prostitutes. Problem solved.

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

Yes and no. EE is a land where girls are forced into a life of prostitution at a young age. Sold by their family. Not all, most or many. But some. So yes, cheap sluts for wealthy international (not just american) men - but not really their choice in many cases. Very sad stuff, and I'm not making light of it.

 

Way to go: profit of human misery.

Prostitution, child prostitution, modern slavery, selling of women; this all stems from the idea of "utility". I find it horrifying that this is ok.

 

And for record; Easter European women feel the least attracted to Americans. Sorry, just saying it the way it is. And if it's only for dollar, well it's not worth much any more. Aint't it?

[manim]

ok let it be..........

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

What happens as you get older and they get to the 30-35 range?

 

 

Would anyone want to get to that age (or any) with this guy?

Edited August 19, 2011 by Ddeepprreesseedd

[D-Lish]

Would anyone want to get to that age (or any) with this guy?

 

Sure, why not? He's doing a good deed here and I fully suppport him.

If the girl wants to engage in this exchange, good for both of them.

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

I know economy is tough but she can always, and I mean always get a full time live-in nanny job. It will be tough for sure, but she'll get roof over her head and warm meals, and no need to prostitute herself to a predator.

[giuliano-3]

Way to go: profit of human misery.

Prostitution, child prostitution, modern slavery, selling of women; this all stems from the idea of "utility". I find it horrifying that this is ok.

 

And for record; Easter European women feel the least attracted to Americans. Sorry, just saying it the way it is. And if it's only for dollar, well it's not worth much any more. Aint't it?

 

I am sorry. What we are having here is a failure to communicate. I most assuredly do not favor child prostitution nor any form of human slavery. I detest it. Again, I think we're on the same page here.

 

I have gotten to know a fair amount of people from EE. I love their food, culture, history etc. Some of the smartest, independent and beautiful women on Earth. I think its a shame that mafias control prostitution and exploitation of young women and their communities. I was using sarcasm earlier, sorry if you thought I was saying something else. Sorry for asking "whats your problem with me?" Wish I could take that one back.

 

Its been a rough day, this thread got the better of me. I thought it was a joke to start with. And still kind of do.

 

Dprssd, I sincerely wish you all the best, take care!

[D-Lish]

I know economy is tough but she can always, and I mean always get a full time live-in nanny job. It will be tough for sure, but she'll get roof over her head and warm meals, and no need to prostitute herself to a predator.

 

Well he's planning on asking her- it's not like she doesn't have a choice.

She has many choices, she could be a nanny, she could get a job waitressing- or she could take GP up on his offer. It really comes down to the fact that she has the choice to say yes or no to any of those things.

 

When she has the choice to say "no" and it will be respected, that doesn't make him a predator at all. If she says yes, it doesn't make her a victim, but a willing participant in the scenario.

 

He hasn't asked her yet I don't think (unless I missed that). I'd be interested in knowing her answer.

 

She's early 20's, old enough to make her own decisions and understand his intentions.

[Ddeepprreesseedd]

 

I have gotten to know a fair amount of people from EE. I love their food, culture, history etc. Some of the smartest, independent and beautiful women on Earth. I think its a shame that mafias control prostitution and exploitation of young women and their communities. I was using sarcasm earlier, sorry if you thought I was saying something else. Sorry for asking "whats your problem with me?" Wish I could take that one back.

 

Its been a rough day, this thread got the better of me. I thought it was a joke to start with. And still kind of do.

 

Dprssd, I sincerely wish you all the best, take care!

 

Thank you, same to you:)

 

Thanks for complimenting EE:)

[giuliano-3]

Well he's planning on asking her- it's not like she doesn't have a choice.

She has many choices, she could be a nanny, she could get a job waitressing- or she could take GP up on his offer. It really comes down to the fact that she has the choice to say yes or no to any of those things.

 

When she has the choice to say "no" and it will be respected, that doesn't make him a predator at all. If she says yes, it doesn't make her a victim, but a willing participant in the scenario.

 

He hasn't asked her yet I don't think (unless I missed that). I'd be interested in knowing her answer.

 

She's early 20's, old enough to make her own decisions and understand his intentions.

 

Working 40 hours a week being nanny ..................400 dollars

 

Working 30 hours a week waiting tables .................500 dollars

 

Selling your body and soul to some dude ..................priceless

 

The choice is not a fair one, and you have to know that. Work your tail off at a real job or 'taking up his offer.' Just another way of saying sell your body and soul for money. Not happiness. Not love. Gold.

 

And with respect I'm not sure girls in their early 20's are all that able to make these kind of decisions with the proper levity. Its a short term fix. For money.

 

I'm sorry, I guess I'm really out of touch with the reality of this society. Pride, honor, respect, dignity. Lost