Ddeepprreesseedd Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 And with respect I'm not sure girls in their early 20's are all that able to make these kind of decisions with the proper levity. Its a short term fix. For money. I'm sorry, I guess I'm really out of touch with the reality of this society. Pride, honor, respect, dignity. Lost AGREED 100% She is not capable of making the right decision. He is much more psychologically advanced and can trick her into this "deal". Link to post Share on other sites
giuliano-3 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Thank you, same to you:) Thanks for complimenting EE:) Cool , we are on the same page!!! Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Working 40 hours a week being nanny ..................400 dollars Working 30 hours a week waiting tables .................500 dollars Selling your body and soul to some dude ..................priceless The choice is not a fair one, and you have to know that. Work your tail off at a real job or 'taking up his offer.' Just another way of saying sell your body and soul for money. Not happiness. Not love. Gold. And with respect I'm not sure girls in their early 20's are all that able to make these kind of decisions with the proper levity. Its a short term fix. For money. I'm sorry, I guess I'm really out of touch with the reality of this society. Pride, honor, respect, dignity. Lost I think what you are out of touch with is the reality of the world around you. The world is not a happy shiny place. I can tell you that at 20, I had my head on straight and I would have said NO to such an offer, it wouldn't have occurred to me to take it, and I would have been offended by the offer. Why? Because at 20, I knew myself well enough to make decisions for myself. There are some young women at that age that would be intrigued by such an offer, willing to take an easy way out... Sorry you don't like that truth, but it doesn't make it any less true. If he asks this young woman and she says yes- so be it. AGREED 100% She is not capable of making the right decision. He is much more psychologically advanced and can trick her into this "deal". Oh yeah... Because young women are just that stupid to be "tricked into cash for sex"... That's an insult to young women everywhere to say they aren't capable of realizing the reality of the situation. Would you have been able to get talked into this at that age? I wouldn't have. At the age of 20 you have the skill set to make a choice, to say otherwise is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
giuliano-3 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I think what you are out of touch with is the reality of the world around you. The world is not a happy shiny place. I can tell you that at 20, I had my head on straight and I would have said NO to such an offer, it wouldn't have occurred to me to take it, and I would have been offended by the offer. Why? Because at 20, I knew myself well enough to make decisions for myself. There are some young women at that age that would be intrigued by such an offer, willing to take an easy way out... Sorry you don't like that truth, but it doesn't make it any less true. If he asks this young woman and she says yes- so be it. Oh believe me, I see the world for what it is. I have no illusions. Doesn't mean I have to like it. It sucks. But its always been this way I suppose. All the way back in time. If you're a man with a pile of gold, you have women - and many of them. What I object to strongest is that our whole culture promotes this weird form of almost pornography. Are you kidding me with these outfits? Seriously? 15 year-old girls wearing this trash? For older girls (sorry, young women) Halloween has become like an excuse to wear as little clothing as possible, prancing around in a "cop uniform" which consists of hancuffs, hat and billyclub. I don't know why I object. I find it stimulating, repugnant and demoralizing all at once. Why is our society promoting the young women to sell themselves while "ripe for the picking?" With hardships amongst "regular folks" getting worse and worse by the month more and more of these "deals" will be sprung. I shouldn't judge the act, I'll give you that. And I don't judge the girl for making a loaded decision at the age of 20. I think its way more than "some girls" who would be intrigued by this offer, especially nowadays with the economy what it is. D - got no problem with you, just don't like the way things are. Doesn't mean I have to accept it Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 Thank You D-lish for defending victims of age and racial discrimnation. A few posters assume that because she is a young Aftican American,,,,that she is too dumb to decide whom she sleeps with. In this day in age (we have a black president) these racists still post their vile opinions. Yes she is young (20) and yes she is Black. But she is as capable as any white woman of making intelligent choices. Racists pretending to care about their "helpless" pity subjecs are the worst. Anyway, she and I have a dinner date in 14 hours, at a fancy joint, she'll enjoy dressing up. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Thank You D-lish for defending victims of age and racial discrimnation. A few posters assume that because she is a young Aftican American,,,,that she is too dumb to decide whom she sleeps with. In this day in age (we have a black president) these racists still post their vile opinions. Yes she is young (20) and yes she is Black. But she is as capable as any white woman of making intelligent choices. Racists pretending to care about their "helpless" pity subjecs are the worst. Anyway, she and I have a dinner date in 14 hours, at a fancy joint, she'll enjoy dressing up. I applaud you sir! I know a few sugar daddy's personally that won't give minorities a chance at all. But, they are liberals so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I skipped a few pages of this thread. something about americanlife's posts just make my eyes bleed. IDK LOL! so if you haven't already wow'd here with the attraction of your means..... Might I suggest a chocolate martini for the lady? Fancy joints don't dare insult their patrons by checking ID. And those things just look way cool when they bring them out without being gaudy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 I applaud you sir! I know a few sugar daddy's personally that won't give minorities a chance at all. But, they are liberals so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I skipped a few pages of this thread. something about americanlife's posts just make my eyes bleed. IDK LOL! so if you haven't already wow'd here with the attraction of your means..... Might I suggest a chocolate martini for the lady? Fancy joints don't dare insult their patrons by checking ID. And those things just look way cool when they bring them out without being gaudy. Your good humor is most welcomed. It's the bleeding heart posters that are true racists when they think they know what's best for minorities. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Your good humor is most welcomed. It's the bleeding heart posters that are true racists when they think they know what's best for minorities. I'm waiting to see how this plays out. I think your methods could help me out. I just don't have the bank to be a sugar-daddy however i'm thinking of working the baby-sitter angle. But I gotta work fast, she's going away to college in the fall so my window of opportunity is closing. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very funny Phiny. Everyone else, I was kidding about her being African American, i knew it would make people clam-up. We had our usual dinner and SHE, not i, brang up the topic of how our relationship would grow or not. I acted suprised but pleased at the prospects. We'll be having another date, a picnic, ideal for talking things out. I want to keep her in the drivers seat as far as intimate contact. I'm so glad that I didn't mention the type of deal I had in mind. I thank all of you for causing hesitation on my part. In a way you're helping me to seduce her. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very funny Phiny. Everyone else, I was kidding about her being African American, i knew it would make people clam-up. We had our usual dinner and SHE, not i, brang up the topic of how our relationship would grow or not. I acted suprised but pleased at the prospects. We'll be having another date, a picnic, ideal for talking things out. I want to keep her in the drivers seat as far as intimate contact. I'm so glad that I didn't mention the type of deal I had in mind. I thank all of you for causing hesitation on my part. In a way you're helping me to seduce her. Seduction is sexy- so much more so when they do all the work. I think you should sit back, enjoy the ride, and I hope you don't encounter any ants at your picnic. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 We'll be having another date, a picnic, Time to hit the grocery store for her bouquet.. maybe cabbage this time ? Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Time to hit the grocery store for her bouquet.. maybe cabbage this time ? Cabbage doesn't present well- and it makes people fart- not a great first date presentation. Link to post Share on other sites
ChessPieceFace Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 LOL. Wow. I can't believe some of these threads. So you admit she only sees you as a friend, and you call it dating. Then you ask our permission to basically pay this woman (who is less than half your age) for sex. Uhh, you have my permission. But it isn't moral, ethical or anything else you want to pretend it is. It's basically a weak form of prostitution. As long as you are honest with yourself about that, it isn't my place to judge it. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very funny Phiny. Everyone else, I was kidding about her being African American, i knew it would make people clam-up. We had our usual dinner and SHE, not i, brang up the topic of how our relationship would grow or not. I acted suprised but pleased at the prospects. We'll be having another date, a picnic, ideal for talking things out. I want to keep her in the drivers seat as far as intimate contact. I'm so glad that I didn't mention the type of deal I had in mind. I thank all of you for causing hesitation on my part. In a way you're helping me to seduce her. I'm still not buying any of this. I read your hugely entertaining posts before, I think this is all made up Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm still not buying any of this. I read your hugely entertaining posts before, I think this is all made up Thanks for the compliment. I try to find the humor in life but I can't make this stuff up. Usually I'll change certain facts just enough that the subject wouldn't know I was talking about them if they read it. IE....erica the blonde clerk at Kmart becomes "June" the redheaded clerk at the bakery Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Time to hit the grocery store for her bouquet.. maybe cabbage this time ? Thanks Art. The local supermarket has a sale on leafy spinach (my favorite gift flowers), I'll couple it up with some parking lot pine cones. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Have you read his post? He wants to **** her. End of story. If he really wanted to help, he would have given out his money without contemplating a sexual contract w/ her. He is a horny, perverted old loser that can't get sex any other way, & so he hunts a financially vulnerable and naive young girl to get it cuz he knows given the circumstances, he can make it happen w the easy, dumb chick. If he really wanted "help" he wouldn't have thought about the sex part. Then he had the nerve to say "I'm not a sugar daddy, I just wanna help"? Does he not know what a sugar daddy is? You just wanna help as long as you are able to plow your old, wrinkly penis from her behind. The **** you THINK that is, "goldy"? *eye roll* Ridiculous. I disagree- he's a mature dude with money to throw about. If he dangles this offer and she accepts- whom is worse in the grand scheme of things? In my opinion, it's her. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 So because someone speaks openly and passionately about race relations, means they're a racist? LOL...hahahaha......hahahahahahah. This guy is not only a perverted, loser of a sugar daddy, but a stupid one too! No, what he means is those bleeding hearts are patronising towards other races and that is exactly what racism is, thinking other races are too stupid to look after themselves and are somehow too vulnerable. Like those 19 year-olds that spend a month at African orphanages because they think they can teach the locals how to do childcare Link to post Share on other sites
rafallus Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 If he dangles this offer and she accepts- whom is worse in the grand scheme of things? In my opinion, it's her. I'm not to evaluate, who is bad, but I do think, that people who treat her as helpless victim of some evil predator, are effectively insulting her intelligence. She makes a choice, yes, she might get hurt, but it was due to choices she made, not because of some mystical power, that it was non-starter to even try to resist against. Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 She must have a pretty empty life if spending time with men like Gold Pile are her only options. I feel sorry for her. Then again, this might be why she is having financial problems. No sense of priority. Tsk, tsk. Like I said in an earlier post.. men like Gold Pile will always exist. Consider them the 'warning signs' along life's road that a woman with anything going for them will have to learn to say no to. I'm not going to wish him well. But I am glad men like him exist, to some extent. If it weren't for sh*theads in the world, we wouldn't appreciate the good ones when they come along. "He who made kittens made snakes in the grass"... and all that. Link to post Share on other sites
pumpkin23 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 The best way to present it is to not do it. A 20 year old? Christ. I'm 20. Taking advantage of some girl's naivety is the lowest of low. Of course, many men take that route. Usually unemployed or partially employed ones. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm not very worried about the intended "victim" in this story. I don't see her as a victim. She is an adult woman; she can choose how to comport herself and then handle all the consequences whether they be positive or not. Who knows. This situation could be very good for her. But, I am concerned for the moral / ethical compass of our OP. I don't think OP should do this - because it's unworthy behavior. Mainly, because he has "targeted" her because of the perceived weakness he can work. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 No, what he means is those bleeding hearts are patronising towards other races and that is exactly what racism is, thinking other races are too stupid to look after themselves and are somehow too vulnerable. Like those 19 year-olds that spend a month at African orphanages because they think they can teach the locals how to do childcare You said it better than I did:) Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Have you read his post? He wants to **** her. End of story. If he really wanted to help, he would have given out his money without contemplating a sexual contract w/ her. He is a horny, perverted old loser that can't get sex any other way, & so he hunts a financially vulnerable and naive young girl to get it cuz he knows given the circumstances, he can make it happen w the easy, dumb chick. If he really wanted "help" he wouldn't have thought about the sex part. Then he had the nerve to say "I'm not a sugar daddy, I just wanna help"? Does he not know what a sugar daddy is? You just wanna help as long as you are able to plow your old, wrinkly penis from her behind. The **** you THINK that is, "goldy"? *eye roll* Ridiculous.If you'd like a picture of it, I'll send you a link to my dating profile. You'll see it's not so wrinkly, and you'll see why I've had more sex than most....free sex!. She's no dumb chick, I'd venture her IQ is 30 points above yours. (she's 30 years younger than you, I'll bet) Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 At least she might get out of her credit card debt for a while but ultimately, she will only find herself in a similar situation and wondering who she can find to sleep with to help her deal with her problems. Eventually, she'll wind up a mid-30's woman, whom a friend of mine's wife's sister (who is single and unattached) does this with She is even willing to be a mistress to a married man that would buy her cars, pay her apt, etc. Sometimes, they don't mind being that "kind of girl" and enjoy the benefits of becoming a high class whore. But instead of cash, it's either barter or bill paying. I am thinking that such a woman would either feel like a cheap gal, or might actually enjoy it and become the gold digger to any new "Gold Pile" that might come into her life. Link to post Share on other sites
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