D-Lish Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 The best way to present it is to not do it. A 20 year old? Christ. I'm 20. Taking advantage of some girl's naivety is the lowest of low. Of course, many men take that route. Usually unemployed or partially employed ones. So, are you saying that you'd be naive enough to accept this kind of arrangement at your age? I think such a statement is insulting the intelligence of younger women who are adults capable of making their own decisions- good and bad. When I was 20, I wouldn't have gotten talked into this arrangement- would you? If your answer is no, would you concede that's because you are old enough to make decisions and understand consequences? Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 LOL the ol', worn out "IQ" insult? For a minute there I thought you'd call me a "jive turkey.":D In all your 100-plus years of limping around this earth, goldy, THAT is what you've come up with? BTW, if she's 30 years younger than me, you are even more perverted than I initially feared . Talk about kicking your own foot to your head. HAHAHAHA. Idk what's worse, your horrible attempts at insulting someone smarter than you, or your wrinkly old dick desperately trying to get some play from a -9-year-old hahahahahahah! Dumbass. I know what a dumb-ass in, but what is a jive turkey? I think I might recall an episode of Sandford and Son where this terminology might have been used. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 eh, intelligence isn't really relevant. At 20 I seemed to be considered intelligent... but I was terribly unwise and lacking in life experience (still am ). NEVERTHELESS, a much older man (50) offered to "take care of me" and my son when I was 19, to which I declined. And another, somewhat younger man, (33) invited me and my son into his home when I was 22, to which I declined... AND even another older man, (42), wanted to stick me in one of his condos on a beach and occasionally "visit" me when I was 24... promising money and all kinds of things (and offered me a large sum on the spot) :rolleyes: (I think he had women in several states to be honest ). Didn't take any one of their offers though... never mind the druggy men that have pulled over while I'm walking around and have offered me cash if I get in their vehicles with them... .. . or other older men, living with other older men or working in minimum wage jobs, who've promised to get a better job and take care of me if I'd give them a chance In conclusion: if she sleeps with the OP, it's her own choice. I was in a pretty ****ty situation and I didn't resort to such. Struggling a little bit and being young and naive doesn't mean she's a victim if she chooses to allay it through an older (perverse perhaps) man's wealth... if she wants to use her body to "get ahead", so be it. Doesn't mean she's being beguiled into doing so... Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 If you'd like a picture of it, I'll send you a link to my dating profile. You'll see it's not so wrinkly, and you'll see why I've had more sex than most....free sex!. She's no dumb chick, I'd venture her IQ is 30 points above yours. (she's 30 years younger than you, I'll bet) I would like to see a picture of your dating profile... I am terribly curious. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I would like to see a picture of your dating profile... I am terribly curious. I was thrown for a loop- he's super hot. He's on my facebook- dashing, very good looking. Not as old as people are making him out to be. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 HAH. Where I came from, I know people my age, including myself, that's had more "life experience" and common sense than the average 50-year-olds. Oh, it's very relevant when I'M talkin'. I mean to imply that I think life experience and wisdom supersede "intelligence". That even if someone is intelligent, their judgments may be off/misguided/undeveloped. But you bring up the point that, indeed age is a number. Probability dictates that the longer you're around, the more you will be exposed to etc... but that's just probability... not truth. Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I love GP's threads, and it's hard to pick which is funnier, his OP or the posts from folks he ropes in. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) I was thrown for a loop- he's super hot. He's on my facebook- dashing, very good looking. Not as old as people are making him out to be. Awww shucks:o , thanks D. Once again the censors removed my naked volleyball pic http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t266239/?highlight=bottomless from my profile. I'm glad a few of you LS posters got to see it. I'll sneek it back into my dating profile in the future. PS: Thanks to Gorilla T too. Edited September 6, 2011 by Gold Pile Link to post Share on other sites
country_gurl Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 This isn't cash for sex!!!! The cash would be my free and generous assistance to a friend in need. Were not close enough friends yet, the relationship needs to be more intimate b4 I'd be comfortable helping her. I'm sure $200 would be most useful to her. Certainly she'd command more as a prostitute but she isn't one and I'm not looking for one. Just saying I would help a CLOSE friend out, and I'd like her to know she could be just such a friend. Yes I want sex, who doesn't ?, but I also don't want anything but the best for her. A REAL FRIEND who genuinely cares about the happiness and wellbeing of their friend does not in any way "give" with the hope or expectation of getting something in exchange/return (read: sex). You are nothing close to being a real friend, nor are you someone who genuinel wants to help out a struggling young college gal. You are a conniving, manipulative, narcissistic predator who has no qualms about exploiting someone young enough to be your daughter but calling it "friendship." Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 A REAL FRIEND who genuinely cares about the happiness and wellbeing of their friend does not in any way "give" with the hope or expectation of getting something in exchange/return (read: sex). You are nothing close to being a real friend, nor are you someone who genuinel wants to help out a struggling young college gal. You are a conniving, manipulative, narcissistic predator who has no qualms about exploiting someone young enough to be your daughter but calling it "friendship."Narcissistic, I'll give ya that one. I don't (who does?) give out money to casual friends. I would help out a close friend because I am a good guy, I really care about my inner circle. She and I are making steady progress, we just might end up being closer. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 eh, intelligence isn't really relevant. At 20 I seemed to be considered intelligent... but I was terribly unwise and lacking in life experience (still am ). NEVERTHELESS, a much older man (50) offered to "take care of me" and my son when I was 19, to which I declined. And another, somewhat younger man, (33) invited me and my son into his home when I was 22, to which I declined... AND even another older man, (42), wanted to stick me in one of his condos on a beach and occasionally "visit" me when I was 24... promising money and all kinds of things (and offered me a large sum on the spot) :rolleyes: (I think he had women in several states to be honest ). Didn't take any one of their offers though... never mind the druggy men that have pulled over while I'm walking around and have offered me cash if I get in their vehicles with them... .. . or other older men, living with other older men or working in minimum wage jobs, who've promised to get a better job and take care of me if I'd give them a chance In conclusion: if she sleeps with the OP, it's her own choice. I was in a pretty ****ty situation and I didn't resort to such. Struggling a little bit and being young and naive doesn't mean she's a victim if she chooses to allay it through an older (perverse perhaps) man's wealth... if she wants to use her body to "get ahead", so be it. Doesn't mean she's being beguiled into doing so... See? You were young and in a bad situation- and you said "No" despite being somewhat naive and vulnerable. I would have made the same choices at your age. Girls at 20 are able to make proper decisions despite not having life experience that say a 30 year old might have. If an arrangement is something she agrees to- good for her and good for him. The worst judgement people are making here is that a girl at 20 isn't capable of making an informed decision. I would think it would be insulting to young girls to hear they would automatically enter into this type of arrangement because they are "young". Like I said, GP is very attractive- he might be a CP, but if the girl wants a sugar daddy and consents, so what? Link to post Share on other sites
Dust Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 ok, less than half my age. As some of you know, I've down-sized my life and am prosperous enough to only work the occasional PT job here and there. It keeps me in pocket money and keeps me out there for dating possibilities. A coworker, a 20 year old college girl, is in pretty sad financial shape. The classic story of student loans etc. Once a week I treat her to dinner at a decent chain restaurant, the best meal she has all week. Its a low pressure dinner date because she isn't thinking of me as more than a friendly older guy. She has become very comfortable with me, combined with her financial stress , I think she could be convinced to turn our dates into over-niters , her knowing that I would always help an intimate friend out. (now and then) Her credit card bill is aprox $200 a month. I'd could shoulder that burden. I'd be glad to do it, helping someone out is what I'm all about. Although I think she'd be receptive, I still need to find a classy, delicate way of running it by her. I don't want it to seem like some sleezy cash for sex deal. just two friends sleeping together, a relationship warm enough that the older one is willing to help the younger one out. I don't want to be labeled as a sugardaddy anymore than she'd want to be called a sugarbaby. Anyhow, what is the best way to present the scenario to her? I’m 27 and when I can I sure do enjoy showering a girl I like with gifts such as food, drink, jewelry, art, and entertainment of course. When I give a girl something when ever possible I hide how much it costs because whether cheap or expensive I want it to be about making her happy not about some monetary market exchange. It’s find that you take her out to eat. Just don’t push to far and yes try to do something with her. No don’t make it a sugar daddy thing that’s lame. Just get her because she likes you not because you give her money. Let the security come from the way she feels around you not from the fact you point out that meal cost x amount and you can also supply her with x amount. Like if I help a gf move apartments I don’t point out “I saved you 600$ or something in the case you couldn’t get any one else to do it.” When friends and lovers do things for each other it shouldn’t be about the money. It’s mental shift to make it about the money. But yes go for it! Just don’t be sleazy about it. She’s also 20 she can say no if you gross her out. Let her worry about saying no. You try to get her to say yes, yes, YES! Don't do it if you don't want the stigma of being a sugardaddy and it turning into a scenario where she will feel like a prostitute. I was there 25 years ago; in my early twenties and hurting badly. Working in a courthouse, one of the judges started doing exactly what you are doing - taking me to lunch for what was the best meal I had each week. And then he offered to help me buy my college school books. Then he just wanted to comfort me with a hug.... You get the picture. 25 years later and I still feel cheap and taken advantage of because I was vulnerable and he though he was just helping. DO NOT DO IT. Look that was your experience. The fact is Goldpiles mentality and thinking on this is very sleazy. If he decides to approach it as I’m just going to try to date this young girl I find sexy/beautiful then I say do it. If he wants to try to turn this girl into a sugar daddy sudo prostitute situation then don’t do it. My mother was probably 19/20 when she met my father. He was like 40. They met while on vacation. Unlike the judge and unlike you my mother genuinely enjoyed my father and he had serious intentions for her to be in his life forever. I’m glad it worked out or I wouldn’t be here. You really had the power to turn the Judge down. I don’t think you should feel guilty, but you were naïve to put your happiness in some one else’s hands that never works. You could have just as easily been taken worse advantage of by some one your own age. I hear those stories all the time too. GP, I just flat out tell the dudes half my age that I sleep with that not only do I not want to look after them, but they are paying for dinner. You’d be dinner! Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Like I said, GP is very attractive- he might be a CP, but if the girl wants a sugar daddy and consents, so what? There is absolutely nothing 'attractive' about GP... If there were, he wouldn't feel the need to bait her with cash or go after little girls with financial problems he can weasel into sleeping with him. Obviously, he isn't chasing 'successful' 20-somethings.. just the ones he can manipulate. One of the biggest dirtbags on this site, if you ask me... right up there with Mr. Nightmare Merchant and his porn loving buddy. Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I’m 27 and when I can I sure do enjoy showering a girl I like with gifts such as food, drink, jewelry, art, and entertainment of course. When I give a girl something when ever possible I hide how much it costs because whether cheap or expensive I want it to be about making her happy not about some monetary market exchange. It’s find that you take her out to eat. Just don’t push to far and yes try to do something with her. No don’t make it a sugar daddy thing that’s lame. Just get her because she likes you not because you give her money. Let the security come from the way she feels around you not from the fact you point out that meal cost x amount and you can also supply her with x amount. Like if I help a gf move apartments I don’t point out “I saved you 600$ or something in the case you couldn’t get any one else to do it.” When friends and lovers do things for each other it shouldn’t be about the money. It’s mental shift to make it about the money. But yes go for it! Just don’t be sleazy about it. She’s also 20 she can say no if you gross her out. Let her worry about saying no. You try to get her to say yes, yes, YES! Don't feed the animals.... young women don't need anymore of this male garbage.... Link to post Share on other sites
Dust Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Don't feed the animals.... young women don't need anymore of this male garbage.... What are you talking about? Explain. It seems like you are just jaded about something and putting that hurt and applying it to the way you view things. Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 What are you talking about? Explain. It seems like you are just jaded about something and putting that hurt and applying it to the way you view things. nope. Just think that GP is a dirtbag.... not that complicated. He's no different than the other 'men' I mentioned. I'd say it was GP that was harboring hurt/hatred... which is why he does what he does. and you are cheering him on... bravo. Link to post Share on other sites
Dust Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 nope. Just think that GP is a dirtbag.... not that complicated. He's no different than the other 'men' I mentioned. I'd say it was GP that was harboring hurt/hatred... which is why he does what he does. and you are cheering him on... bravo. He’s got a sense of humor and doesn’t always take everything seriously. He’s fun and so of course I cheer him on. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 nope. Just think that GP is a dirtbag.... not that complicated. He's no different than the other 'men' I mentioned. I'd say it was GP that was harboring hurt/hatred... which is why he does what he does. and you are cheering him on... bravo. Who you calling a dirtbag? Thanks to the advice I rcvd here, I didn't approach her with a financial angle (except our weekly meals and a few movie dates. She finally took things to the next level. I had a great time, she had a good time. Having a good time was probably a surprise to her. Best of all I don't have to cheapen things by helping her.I never even hinted that I would. Thanks for your help. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Who you calling a dirtbag? Thanks to the advice I rcvd here, I didn't approach her with a financial angle (except our weekly meals and a few movie dates. She finally took things to the next level. I had a great time, she had a good time. Having a good time was probably a surprise to her. Best of all I don't have to cheapen things by helping her.I never even hinted that I would. Thanks for your help. So you banged her? I've been wondering what happened:) I'm glad she enjoyed it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 So you banged her? I've been wondering what happened:) I'm glad she enjoyed it.Yup:cool: she even has come back for more. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Yup:cool: she even has come back for more. Maybe because she didn't cum the first time and was trying again to see if it would work... Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Who you calling a dirtbag? Thanks to the advice I rcvd here, I didn't approach her with a financial angle (except our weekly meals and a few movie dates. She finally took things to the next level. I had a great time, she had a good time. Having a good time was probably a surprise to her. Best of all I don't have to cheapen things by helping her.I never even hinted that I would. Thanks for your help. Except you pay for her "weekly meals". Stop those meals and see if she is still interested in your penis. She most probably sees you as sugar daddy as much as you pretend like you hate to be one but you know you are one. Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Maybe she realized she would get a lot more money by getting pregnant. Link to post Share on other sites
coolheadal Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Yup:cool: she even has come back for more. Your pretty much like me but not 1/2 more like 15 to 16 years. I don't know why other's here complain about it. I think it great! Woman my age look all damage and just too old for me. I can't see myself with them. If you find the right girl that digs you for you and not your money or what you have, then you got a honey, if not then you fall into the wrong type. It's up to you and I know what I want to be happy with. I never look my age as people tell me you look so young and they have to look at my ID again to make sure. You have a good life and enjoy! I am more happier now.. Edited September 28, 2011 by coolheadal Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gold Pile Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 Carrie wrote:Maybe because she didn't cum the first time and was trying again to see if it would work... she had a good time, I still have a move or two in my pants. Mezmer wrote: ....pay for her "weekly meals". Stop those meals and see if she is still interested in your penis. If only it was that easy! She eats about $15 dollars worth at OUR meals. Women don't give it up for food, I wish they did. Having a meal together is the minimum activity for any date. Dust wrote: He’s got a sense of humor and doesn’t always take everything seriously. He’s fun .... Thanks Dust. I think it was my sense of humor that won her over more than anything else. It all went so well! I avoided any sugar Daddy appearances and landed her. Her financial troubles remain her own. Life is just great. Thanks to everyone here for the great advice, you helped me score, and it was a classy score. Link to post Share on other sites
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