16 Shots of Whiskey.

[amerikajin]

I think the science argument often ignores one simple fact: it's a conscious decision to drink. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know of many scientists who are going to premise their research on the idea that people are alcoholics from the first sip. Is the urge stronger for some people than for others? Sure. I know it's stronger for me, which is why I don't keep it in my house. I know that I tend to be a little too addicted to the Internet at times, but I've decided that this addiction (and it's not like I don't socialize) is one that I can live with. Some addictions we accept; others we prevent. It's that simple. Prevention takes a committed course of action, and some people don't do that. Some people simply shrug it off and say, "Well, I know I need to stop drinkin, but I like drinkin. F_ck it, I'll quit tomorrow."

[WantingSerenity]

Originally posted by faux

 

 

Either way, it's a problem, and this past Friday I did get very, very sick, and consumed more than the supposed sixteen shots. I was aching, unable to eat or move much, until Saturday evening. I was still woozy and unable to really do much of anything until Sunday.

 

I am simply going to try not to buy any more alcohol, and try not to be around it. If there is alcohol near me I will drink it. This Friday I hope to be one week sober.

 

 

 

Good for you I am an alcoholic and I will and can tell you this. No one, not one soul can tell you if you are an alcoholic or not. That is something for you to decide. Whether it is gentic or not doesn't even matter. My father is a alcoholic, my mother is not. I am an alcoholic, my brother isn't. A state or frame of mind? Possibly. I know when I drink alcohol it attacks me spritually, mentally and emotionally. It didn't matter how much I drank it's how I felt and what I did when I drank. There is a saying I heard once "It doesn't matter how or why the ass is in the ditch. How will we get it out is what matters"

 

There are no real concrete answers to these questions. I honestly know I am an alcoholic. And just for today I won't drink. And I have had over 3 years of not taking a drink "just for today" Just make the choice not to drink one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow or Friday. When tomorrow gets here you can worry about it then.

The best of luck to you

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by amerikajin

I think the science argument often ignores one simple fact: it's a conscious decision to drink. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know of many scientists who are going to premise their research on the idea that people are alcoholics from the first sip. Is the urge stronger for some people than for others? Sure. I know it's stronger for me, which is why I don't keep it in my house.

 

I remember reading this study about addiction. They didn't say if you had it in you're genes you'll end upan alcoholic. What they say is that should this be in your genes, if you start to drink, you're more likely to get the disease (get addicted) faster!

 

Ieven remember this funny research where they concluded that those who have a more agressive type of personality - get mad easier, etc - are more prone to get addicted if they start smoking! Scieence!!!!

 

It still is a personal decision - starting any of the two!

[moimeme]

Well, this is a bit of a duh. If you don't know there may be a genetic predisposition to alcoholism or if you don't believe it, then you will not know to stay away from alcohol, and you'll likely not notice that you are drinking too much. Remember that most alcoholics are in denial for years. So it is a completely moot point to say that it is a 'choice' to drink. Of course it is - and until every glass of booze and every beer bottle comes with a label saying 'there may be a genetic predisposition to alcohol; if you drink more than x drinks a week, consider you may have a problem' on it, people will think it's a perfectly innocent and harmless choice.

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by moimeme

Well, this is a bit of a duh. If you don't know there may be a genetic predisposition to alcoholism or if you don't believe it, then you will not know to stay away from alcohol, and you'll likely not notice that you are drinking too much. Remember that most alcoholics are in denial for years. So it is a completely moot point to say that it is a 'choice' to drink. Of course it is - and until every glass of booze and every beer bottle comes with a label saying 'there may be a genetic predisposition to alcohol; if you drink more than x drinks a week, consider you may have a problem' on it, people will think it's a perfectly innocent and harmless choice.

 

Not really... They're in denial about being alcoholic, not about drinking. They realize they drink, just don't realize they're going beyond the normal or acceptable quantities. They drink A LOT. This is what they deny. Their drinking A LOT, their drinking FREQUENTY! And sometimes it is ... hard to convince them of the truth. For example, in my native country everybody drinks. At parties, when going out, after work. So everyone or almost everyone is constantely near alcohol. Everybody drinks, not everybody gets drunk!

 

The choice I'm talking about is feeling the limit. If you realise you like it too much, maybe you shouldn't do it too often. If you start drinking for the fun of it, maybe something is wrong.

 

The genetic predisposition I believes makes you understand you "might have a crush" for alcohol after a little number of encounters. And... I haven't read the facts, but unless you've never met your parents, it's kinda hard not to realise you have the disease in your family.

 

You can say"Yes, but if I didn't go to university, I'll never know I have a genetic predisposition. I won't even know what a genetic predisposition is, especially since I live in a underdevelopped country,with cheap beer and expensive internet connexion"

 

It's funny, we have lots of folklore, jokes and sayings - don't know about the customs in your country. And one of the worst things you can say about someone is that they come from a family with an alcohol problem. IT's common sense. At least in my country is. So people are overly cautios about it and do relate it with the family background! Unfortunatelly they'd do it if you had cases of ... easier women Funny place I come from

 

So: how can you not know? This gene is very strong, I told you before, I don't think one can have it in his family and not know it. You feel it. In the end, that's it. Just about being attentive to your body and to how you react in contact with different substances. Understand and accept you like drinking. And not continue.

 

I don't deny dependent aspect of the disease, but everyone knows when they're crossing the line! This is what they deny, having crossed the line, having the symptoms of the disease, not having the disease ( they deny they drink a lot, not their drinking or their enjoying to drink).