Are Men or Women More Likely to Overvalue Themselves?

[ahumberg]

Either gender has the capability to overvalue themselves. They want to impress the opposite sex to the fullest extent and sometimes that is done to the highest degree and then some. While that may work at first those people will eventually show their true colors and then that is where a potential mess lies.

[LoveandSuch]

I agree with the posters who responded that the 1-10 scale is not universal and differs greatly and surprisingly from one person to the other. I place the Supermodel at 10, not meaning just average models to semi popular, just the few who make it to that level. A barbie could represent a 10, and the barbie was manufactured before plastic surgery, so she does not represent that.

If you look at sites where men are posting pics of their meaning of 10s, it widely varies with in only my opinion 5-6s making the 10 mark. You would be surprised.

[zengirl]

The reason I brought up manufactured is because a girl that has not down these things will not look as attractive even though she can be. I had a very cute tomboyish ex who hated to dress up. Months into the relationship she dressed up for a wedding and I was knocked on my ass by how beautiful she looked.

 

While these take-off-the-glasses-let-the-hair-down-moments certainly happen, there are men who actually think made up women (particularly very dolled up---and I don't just mean the trashy/dolled up way) look unattractive. Different guys like different things. I think women appreciate being dressed up more than men, in my social circle. I have male friends who are each into all kinds of different looks -- yuppie/dressy, goth, casual, hipster girl, etc. They don't always know what to call it, but they definitely have specific tastes.

 

Now, hair, skin, teeth, and body shape are investments that can be pricey and hard to compete with without them, though some people have a leg up naturally, and if done well, it's hard to tell it wasn't just luck of the draw. I get the brazillian blowout to keep frizz away, but my hair isn't any more frizz free than my friend V who naturally has awesome hair, and no one can look at it and say, "Hey, she paid $$$ at the salon to keep her hair from frizzing." The kind of obviously glammed up think you mentioned is very much a style choice, and it's not everyone's style. I dress all kinds of ways (because it's fun) and I know plenty of men who find me sexier when I dress down.

 

Men don't all want the hottest girl in the room, but looks do matter.

 

Looks matter to everyone! I never said they didn't. I said someone's objective level of attractiveness was irrelevant. If a guy doesn't think a girl looks good, of course he isn't interested! That was not my point at all FTR.

 

but (and I hate the number scale) one guy's 10 is another guy's 8 not another guy's 5.

 

Hmm. . . you know I'm not sure that a 10 is never a 5 to somebody else, frankly, but I'll agree there are people who are objectively attractive (I said so). My point is the number scale is pointless if you're seeking a relationship. There are only two categories: he/she does it for me or he/she doesn't. If you look at it from a value, or competitive, or marketplace type standpoint, you're dating for failure.