Author robertdawson Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think this thread is over. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Not that I can recall. Here's one that somebody already said. Stop assuming that women don't like you. You had an opportunities to talk to girls but you were so angry at the world you didn't take it and then thought they were being bitches. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) It is possible they weren't being bitches, but have you ever talked to a girl and had her give the "oh god get me out of here" look to one of her friends? That is really obvious when it happens. The way that one girl responded gave me that vibe. There are plenty of other times where I will ignore "negative vibes" and continue talking to them anyway. In fact, having a decent conversation with a woman (no negative vibes even) actually isn't that uncommon for me, but it seems that any time a conversation is decent they seem to be being friendly and nothing more. I can't tell you how many times I've talked to girls, had a decent conversation for a decent length of time and then they act shocked later on when I ask them out. Edited August 28, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 That was one case. How many women do you talk to in a week? Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) I'm guessing around 8-10 that I have conversations with that go past "hey" Talked to one yesterday for like 15 minutes and she was smiling and laughing at a few things but I found out today she has a boyfriend.. again, just being friendly. I've seen her before and she greeted me when I walked up to her too. Talked to another in the library out of the blue and she acted normal and friendly (laughing at things I said, etc.), told me to have a good day at work, etc. but all I got was a handshake and her name (after asking for it) Edited August 28, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
Easyguy14 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'm guessing around 8-10 that I have conversations with that go past "hey" Talked to one yesterday for like 15 minutes and she was smiling and laughing at a few things but I found out today she has a boyfriend.. again, just being friendly. I've seen her before and she greeted me when I walked up to her too. Talked to another in the library out of the blue and she acted normal and friendly (laughing at things I said, etc.), told me to have a good day at work, etc. but all I got was a handshake and her name (after asking for it) sounds pretty exasperating to go through stuff like that, but could you tell me what kinds of conversation you have with them? just give me a lay out of it as a sample. what you're saying to them could be hurting you. just a possibility to consider because with women if you dont flirt and just being friendly, they'll reciprocate that back robert. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I wish I had some advice for you, man. I'm in the same boat. Girls don't want anything other than friendship with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Red Arremer Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think this thread is over. Here's some advice, stop being so angry at everything and everyone and being Mr. Internet Tough Guy at every person that even hints at disagreeing with you. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Having started very few threads on LS, I will opine that it is generally healthy to go into the process with an open mind to examine all potentials, even those which disagree with one's initial mindset on the matter. When asking the question, being open to the various answers can lead to new avenues of thought, even avenues which none of the answers specifically revealed. OP, what's your plan? Any avenues to pursue here? Reading your latest posts, one, don't let Eric (ToeJam) get to you and, two, consider changing how you perceive your apparently easy and casual manner and conversations with women. See it as a gift. The conversations don't have to 'go somewhere'. Enjoy them, and the ladies, for who they are and in the moment. Human contact is a valuable and healthy thing. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Who's to say that he's doing anything wrong? Women these days expect men to jump through hoops for them. They want the world, and then sometimes that isn't even enough. I used to be a romantic. Then I woke up. Women don't want romance, they want security. If you can be rich and successful, then you've got it made...even if you've got the personality and looks of a brick. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Who's to say that he's doing anything wrong? Women these days expect men to jump through hoops for them. They want the world, and then sometimes that isn't even enough. I used to be a romantic. Then I woke up. Women don't want romance, they want security. If you can be rich and successful, then you've got it made...even if you've got the personality and looks of a brick. Hey man, I'm as bitter as they come about the whole dating thing (I'm completely inexperienced, horrible with women) but I know a whole bunch of guys who are broke who have/had girlfriends. I wish money was the secret, but it really isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hey man, I'm as bitter as they come about the whole dating thing (I'm completely inexperienced, horrible with women) but I know a whole bunch of guys who are broke who have/had girlfriends. I wish money was the secret, but it really isn't. I guess I'm just getting angry about the whole thing. See my "fat man thread" for examples. I am not okay as I am, so I have to change myself. Why don't women ever change themselves? If she's skinny, but dumb as rocks, why doesn't she pick up a book and educate herself? If she's fat, why doesn't she get thin? Why does it always have to be the GUY who has to change? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I guess I'm just getting angry about the whole thing. See my "fat man thread" for examples. I am not okay as I am, so I have to change myself. Why don't women ever change themselves? If she's skinny, but dumb as rocks, why doesn't she pick up a book and educate herself? If she's fat, why doesn't she get thin? Why does it always have to be the GUY who has to change? Because girls have a vagina. Men want vagina a hell of a lot more than girls want penis. Whomever wants the other the least, has the power. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Because girls have a vagina. Men want vagina a hell of a lot more than girls want penis. Whomever wants the other the least, has the power. It's numbers. 105 men for 100 women (until you get to old age when women begin to outnumber men) and men are more likely to have multiple concurrent partners (or cheat) which skews the numbers even worse. So for those in the "have not" category, we simply have to try that much more in order to get noticed or to attract women. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I go to a college where it's 60% women. I've taken dance classes where it was 3 girls for every guy. So numbers of women don't really matter. The problem happens because some women are perfectly fine being single and they take themselves out of the market. Or they are waiting for a guy who is "good enough" for her so she takes herself off the market till she finds him or grows up. Or shes sleeping with a man who is sleeping with more than one girl and she's just with him. In those three examples, the girls have made themselves unavailable to men who actually want a relationship. The girls that actually want to date and have boyfriends, already have them. So the only ways for a man to get a girl, is to either somehow convince the girls in category 1, 2 or 3 to date him, which is much easier said than done. Or find a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend and claim her before somebody else does. Though if one is really smooth, he can get her to cheat. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I go to a college where it's 60% women. I've taken dance classes where it was 3 girls for every guy. So numbers of women don't really matter. Except those women aren't limited to dating guys only from your college or only from your dance class. People (both men and women) have more choice in these things than ever before. Unfortunately that level of choice benefits women more than men IME. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Except those women aren't limited to dating guys only from your college or only from your dance class. People (both men and women) have more choice in these things than ever before. Unfortunately that level of choice benefits women more than men IME. Which is basically what I said with my previous two posts. Women have a lot of choices because they want it less then men do. The ones that do want it, are quickly snatched up. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Which begs the question: If so many older males are virgins or are having trouble dating, and so many women their own age are content with being single... How does one end up married? Is this God's way of genetically weeding out inferior people? Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Is this God's way of genetically weeding out inferior people? Given what reproduces in my neighborhood, God has failed Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Friedman Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Which begs the question: If so many older males are virgins or are having trouble dating, and so many women their own age are content with being single... How does one end up married? Is this God's way of genetically weeding out inferior people? Lol. If you're religious call it god. If you have a scientific bent, call it evolution. The bottom line is, yes, in modern day america unattractive/socially awkward men stand a very real chance of getting "weeded out." Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Given what reproduces in my neighborhood, God has failed amen! mine too Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Which is basically what I said with my previous two posts. Women have a lot of choices because they want it less then men do. The ones that do want it, are quickly snatched up. Stop making excuses for yourself Somedude. Practice confidence, it's what gives you the edge over other men. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. After the rest have departed its stinking carcass for greener pastures. No wonder my socialization was whacked. I was raised on this stuff... I want my money back Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Probably the devil is the one who's in charge of sex. God is in charge of love, and there's too little love around nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I guess I'm just getting angry about the whole thing. See my "fat man thread" for examples. I am not okay as I am, so I have to change myself. Why don't women ever change themselves? If she's skinny, but dumb as rocks, why doesn't she pick up a book and educate herself? If she's fat, why doesn't she get thin? Why does it always have to be the GUY who has to change? Didn't you say that YOU wouldn't date a fat girl? Girls are judged, too. I'd argue that girls are judged far more harshly for being fat than men are. Go somewhere generically "family oriented" and have a look around at the men and women you see together. Target, Applebees, etc. Look how many short, fat, unkempt, generally unattractive men and women you see out together, reproducing together, sharing life together. Observe how many average people find average mates and make average babies. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites
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