verhrzn Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Well, this is loveshack, so it's not exactly a remote possibility. Why did you post a pic of yourself if you already what your weaknesses are? Well I posted the photo way back in one of my first threads asking how you know if you're ugly. (Not AM I ugly, but how do you KNOW if you are.) People asked to see a picture, so I posted one. No where in this thread did I ask what I can do to improve my looks. I don't bother asking, because the only responses I get back are "work out" and "look better." So instead I automatically go with the assumption that I'm unattractive... which apparently makes me pessimistic to posters like nyc_guy2003, even though he agrees with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Well WAY back in the thread I think I mentioned being slightly bitter and jaded because I see all of these threads from guys complaining that hot girls won't pay attention to them, and then turning around and rejecting perfectly pleasant girls because they're not hot. But that was about it (for this thread, other threads I am totally guilty of it.) Then Carhill posted my picture in an effort to get some insight on the OP, and suddenly it's all "Your friend is hotter, how are her boobs?" Yeah, from one poster. How many posters actually said good things? Plenty. You ignore those ones and just focus on the negative. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Since my "day job" consists of doing things I can't reveal in order to allegedly protect you "common people" from the scary folks of the world, you can rest assured that I won't be quitting anytime soon. Are you and I even looking at the same photo? And, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I got up at 6 a.m. to go on a 4 mile run with my fiance. We're doing on our part to keep our empire going. Not sure which photo you are referring to...my comment was a general one and not about any particular individual. And thank you for doing your part to keep the empire going. I was always curious where the U.S. military finds able-bodied men and women. There must be a secret 51st state where McDonalds and KFC are banned that supplies the armed forces with its fighting personnel Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Yeah, from one poster. How many posters actually said good things? Plenty. You ignore those ones and just focus on the negative. Seriously. I wrote several times that I thought she was attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Well WAY back in the thread I think I mentioned being slightly bitter and jaded because I see all of these threads from guys complaining that hot girls won't pay attention to them, and then turning around and rejecting perfectly pleasant girls because they're not hot. But that was about it (for this thread, other threads I am totally guilty of it.) Then Carhill posted my picture in an effort to get some insight on the OP, and suddenly it's all "Your friend is hotter, how are her boobs?" Yup, you're right. You didn't post anything after page 3 and for some reason carhill posts your photo and the whole thread gets shifted to you. Bad carhill. NyC guy started by saying that the Robin girl is kind of hot (BTW, he is trolling you). My eyes just drifted to the girl with nice boobs. Sorry, they do that Edited August 26, 2011 by somedude81 Link to post Share on other sites
nyc_guy2003 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 But that was about it (for this thread, other threads I am totally guilty of it.) Then Carhill posted my picture in an effort to get some insight on the OP, and suddenly it's all "Your friend is hotter, how are her boobs?" For the record, I didn't ask how her b00bs were, I asked how big they were. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I specified 'why'. I hope the OP gets something out of this discourse. He's the primary focus of my postings. We've learned that he finds what other posters generally agree is an 'average' young lady to be 'cute' and perhaps someone he might approach in real life. He's also noted that she's paying more attention to the males who would seek to rile her up than to men who accept her as she is. He's learning. Hopefully, she is too. That's part of what this place is about; learning. If I'm an instigator in that process, owned. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I specified 'why'. I hope the OP gets something out of this discourse. He's the primary focus of my postings. We've learned that he finds what other posters generally agree is an 'average' young lady to be 'cute' and perhaps someone he might approach in real life. He's also noted that she's paying more attention to the males who would seek to rile her up than to men who accept her as she is. He's learning. Hopefully, she is too. That's part of what this place is about; learning. If I'm an instigator in that process, owned. Uh... what are we learning, exactly? Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Your learning process is up to you. My focus for the OP was to provide clear anecdotal information which posters could utilize to give informed opinions. For you, having read and participated in some of your prior threads, it is an opportunity to experience the shoe being on the other foot and seeing how the OP deals with this issue, and now the small nuance I added to it. Learn where the anger comes from. Learn how to reconcile it. Learn to accept and love who you are. Learn that life is finite and way too brief, especially too brief to be angry. Learn to love and let go. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 verhrzn: well, one thing you could learn is how to take a compliment. You never really acknowledged any of them and instead kept calling yourself ugly. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 verhrzn: well, one thing you could learn is how to take a compliment. You never really acknowledged any of them and instead kept calling yourself ugly. In her defense, random online compliments don't amount to anything. I posted a picture of myself awhile ago and I kept having women call me good looking. That doesn't change the fact that I still do absolutely horrible with women and they don't like me. Link to post Share on other sites
nyc_guy2003 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 In her defense, random online compliments don't amount to anything. I posted a picture of myself awhile ago and I kept having women call me good looking. That doesn't change the fact that I still do absolutely horrible with women and they don't like me. Yeah I noticed that too, the dorkiest geekiest guys post their pictures and all the women on the site respond with "you would be a solid 8 if you cut your hair and lost 10 pounds". I hate to see who would rank a 5 on this site. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 AmEricanWomann First of all, you need to reread what I wrote. I DIDNT say that he goes after super models and I never suggested he shouldn't go out with women he's attracted to. Of course he should. I was actually responding to him and another man who said yeah men have standards, but we don't insist on going out with the hottest women around, but woman insist on holding out for the hottest man. I read what you wrote and your wasting time complaining because he is frustrated that women he is interested in aren't interested in him. Not exactly the terrible issue you are making it out as. You are actually saying the same exact thing that the two men you were responding to were saying. Which is both genders have standards and neither gender only holds out for the hottest person. Yet you feel that you need to shame the OP because he has dissapointment and frustration with women not paying him attention. Men have a right to have standards, but its wrong to deny that right to women. Please indicate where he was doing such a thing. I have yet to see it. As far as sperm dumpster...sorry, but I call them like I see them and I will use words that I feel are appropriate to make a point. Using the word "sperm dumpster" has nothing to do with "calling them like you see them" and making an appriopiate point. It's a misognistic term that speaks nothing about the actual women and says everything about promoting a term about a woman's body being nothing better then a dumpster. Not because you're trying to make a point but because you enjoy putting women you've deemed to be in this type of situation down. Further, you complain and bemoan about him placing judgements on women who reject him based on their standards and then YOU hypocritcally go on to complain and judge women that get used for sex without knowing any other details about why said women might have been used for sex. Rich CEOs use women just as much as Trailer Park Joes do. Do not make the foolish assumption you know more about people's lives then they do and attaching hideous names to them. Making erronuous, flippant, sarcastic, statements about women enjoying being used for just their bodies because of misplaced standards is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. You're guilty of doing the exact thing you previously accused the OP of doing. It's laughable. But keep riding that "i'm so cool I'm not policitcally correct" gravey train in the name of "being helpful". It's amusing to me that you can run around on this board and use a word like that to describe a woman but if anyone else here made an equally ugly slur about a person's race and nationality that would be completely unacceptable. It never ceases to amaze me what we socially let ourselves get away when talking about women. You can call a woman things you couldn't call someone else based on their race or regligion. Hello Stone Age. Link to post Share on other sites
rafallus Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 In her defense, random online compliments don't amount to anything. I posted a picture of myself awhile ago and I kept having women call me good looking. That doesn't change the fact that I still do absolutely horrible with women and they don't like me. Do you realize that women (and people overall) you interact with here may not be an accurate representation of who you meet in your real life? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Do you realize that women (and people overall) you interact with here may not be an accurate representation of who you meet in your real life? I'm sorry, I don't get what your point is. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I'm sorry, I don't get what your point is. Exaggerating, we're the lunatic fringe Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 How about a piper...does anyone want a piper? Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 In her defense, random online compliments don't amount to anything. I posted a picture of myself awhile ago and I kept having women call me good looking. That doesn't change the fact that I still do absolutely horrible with women and they don't like me. Yeah, I get called hot, cute, sexy online. I've only been called sexy once in real life by a girl, and that just made me nervous. And that happened 6 years ago...wouldn't happen now. Being almost 29 and never having had a relationship is definitely pissing me off and making me depressed. Girls don't understand how painful it is for a guy. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Find a 29 y/o without a r'ship. I don't train. That's good, because I don't jump through hoops for women. Link to post Share on other sites
SillyS Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah, I get called hot, cute, sexy online. I've only been called sexy once in real life by a girl, and that just made me nervous. And that happened 6 years ago...wouldn't happen now. Being almost 29 and never having had a relationship is definitely pissing me off and making me depressed. Girls don't understand how painful it is for a guy. Stop focusing on it. The fact that you are feeling sorry for yourself makes it only worse in my opinion. You could meet someone tomorrow in the grocery store and be with them for 50 years, so please consider that. You have so much of life left, and experience and relations with women await you. And be proactive. Perhaps it's time for a vacation, it could be your location that is the problem. If you have a routine life, get out and do something you never do and pick up new hobbies and make new friends. My ex was 27 and he never dated anyone really before me and we were together for 2 years. I would say, that you will need someone that is understanding of your situation and that gives you the patience to develop yourself in a relationship. There are girls like us out there, so don't think that everyone will run the other way when you explain yourself. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
Easyguy14 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I feel as if I get absolutely zero attention from women. Nearly twenty-f'in-three and never done more than hung out a couple times with a girl. University courses just started back and I'm basically in a state of internalized rage. Just walking around campus I'm constantly seeing people with women and it just flat out pisses me off now. To give a few examples: The other day I was sitting in the courtyard waiting for class to start. I turned around and said hello to the girl that happened to be there. She gave me this "You're so lucky to talk to me" smirk/smile, said hello and asked me if I was waiting for class (might have said something else earlier, I don't remember). I blew it off because all I was doing was being friendly anyway. But about two minutes later this guy and his friend walk up to her and she says "well hello!" (she couldn't have seen them too much before since it was the first day of class and she was a freshman) and he sits down and starts talking to her. He talked to her for a while, and I stayed around to see if the guy was doing anything that I hadn't thought of before (conversation wise). After about 15 minutes I got up and left because the guy sounded like a total douche/dumbass and couldn't bear it any longer. Why in the hell could this guy walk up and immediately get this girl's attention but she would barely even talk to me? I'm not the best looking guy ever but I'm at least average and I'm nowhere near as much of a douche as that guy was, but that girl seemed to be eating that **** up. I wouldn't doubt it if she hooked up with him later that day. To give another example: there is a girl in two of my classes who is fairly attractive I suppose and in the second class I have with her she sits in between me and this other guy. I talked to her a little bit the first day (just casually), and she ended up walking and talking with this other guy for a few minutes after class. Then today during the lecture they kept passing back and forth his iPad, I'm fairly certain just trying to discreetly have a conversation. This girl is three years younger than I am which is too young for me (2 years is my limit, I just can't get past it since my sister is three years younger than me), so I guess I shouldn't care, but I do. Maybe it's because the guy seems like a douche sitting there with his iPad all the time. What is most likely the case though is that I'm just pissed off that this girl seems interested in this guy after talking to him like once (and he seems like a total tool). I was getting so pissed at them talking back and forth I just about couldn't stand to stay in the class. The second example I gave just happened like an hour ago and I'm still on edge about it. While driving home someone honked at me for not going as soon as the light turned green and I freaked out and flipped them the bird in the rearview mirror and then got in their lane to try and slow down to piss them off (I usually never lose my temper driving like that). I know being that pissed off isn't healthy, but jesus, I don't even feel like I can help it anymore. I don't know how I'm going to function if I can't handle seeing people around campus or having to be around that girl talking with that guy in my class. Also, I doubt anyone is going to be outgoing or friendly to a guy who looks like he is going to go kill something. we never found out what happened with that therapist you was into? did you even bother? I agree that most young women dont value a man until they hit the 30-40 mark because of immaturity and self-denial. some cant let go of the live-fast lifestyle. you need to work on your passions so you can meet women in that field. because Im in the funeral business most of the women are very much interested in me along with nurses in particular. every time I go down to the hospital morgue to do a removal, a nurse in the hallway or whatever tries to talk to me, flirt, even pass their info. its what I do for a living and the skills I possess doing it. you need to own to something that will put you in demand instead of just walking around with a big chip on your shoulder. and also check out the quieter girls. they are better and more interesting than you think once you get them talking. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Wow, how can that girl perceive herself as ugly? She is above average looking, and even classically beautiful. At least I can say that I'm an ugly guy...but her? I don't understand why she doesn't get any attention! Link to post Share on other sites
AmEricanWomann Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 we never found out what happened with that therapist you was into? did you even bother? I agree that most young women dont value a man until they hit the 30-40 mark because of immaturity and self-denial. some cant let go of the live-fast lifestyle. you need to work on your passions so you can meet women in that field. because Im in the funeral business most of the women are very much interested in me along with nurses in particular. every time I go down to the hospital morgue to do a removal, a nurse in the hallway or whatever tries to talk to me, flirt, even pass their info. its what I do for a living and the skills I possess doing it. you need to own to something that will put you in demand instead of just walking around with a big chip on your shoulder. and also check out the quieter girls. they are better and more interesting than you think once you get them talking. Seriously? If you say so. Don't get me wrong. I don't know you and for all I do know, you may be the hottest, sexiest, most charming man alive and I don't put down any honest job that provides a service. I'm happy you're confident and successful with women so please don't take this as a put down. However, I gotta say that I just can't imagine seeing a guy pushing a sheet covered trolley containing the cold, decomposing remains of someone who just died of some long and painful illness and then thinking to myself.."mmmm...I gotta get me some of THAT!" Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 However, I gotta say that I just can't imagine seeing a guy pushing a sheet covered trolley containing the cold, decomposing remains of someone who just died of some long and painful illness and then thinking to myself.."mmmm...I gotta get me some of THAT!" It's the whole bad boy thing. Women will go after bad boys, even if they're broke and ugly looking. Link to post Share on other sites
Red Arremer Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 It pretty much comes down to giving a f*ck. You can't be a "bad boy" and give a f*ck, the two things are mutually exclusive. Women like guys that don't give a f*ck. Thus, bad boys are over-represented in that population. Link to post Share on other sites
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