Once I get it, I don't want it anymore..

[Woggle]

Here is a post where a woman condones bad behavior from women. She says she likes it because it is now payback time. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3602401&postcount=4

 

Will the women here who are so hard on the OP come out against this statement?

[LoveandSuch]

Thought I'd seen it all on this forum, and now posters are seriously calling another poster's mother a whore because they don't like his attitude. Disgusting.

 

Psychologists are the ones who document this exact behavoir described by Mr. Merchant as men who have whores as mothers. I do not make this stuff up. Men who dismiss women as just objects to screw have messed up mother/whore complexes. They should be avoided by women at all cost!

[Elysian Powder]

Psychologists are the ones who document this exact behavoir described by Mr. Merchant as men who have whores as mothers. I do not make this stuff up. Men who dismiss women as just objects to screw have messed up mother/whore complexes. They should be avoided by women at all cost!

 

Psychologists? You mean those folks who worship Freud? The guy who took heroine(or cocaine) for tooth ache?

 

Somehow, I really don't trust what these psychologists guys have to say about anything.

[zengirl]

Here is a post where a woman condones bad behavior from women. She says she likes it because it is now payback time. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3602401&postcount=4

 

Will the women here who are so hard on the OP come out against this statement?

 

I'm against the one sentence in her post where she says she wants men to get theirs, but the major point of that post is that she's telling the poster that he should not worry about his GF at a Bachelorette party if he trusts her. I'd say that to a female friend about her guy (at a Bachelor Party) too. She says nothing near deplorable --- in that post, which is all I can read, the link doesn't show the whole thread --- as half the stuff the OP spews all over the place, and you know it, Woggle. It's a throwaway line.

 

I'm sure there IS a post somewhere, likely somewhere on LS, where some girl details how she fracked with some dudes. But that post you reference isn't it; in fact, she comments on how she finds such behavior deplorable in women as well, if you read the whole thing. So. . . did you read the whole thing?

[Elysian Powder]

I'm against the one sentence in her post where she says she wants men to get theirs, but the major point of that post is that she's telling the poster that he should not worry about his GF at a Bachelorette party if he trusts her. I'd say that to a female friend about her guy (at a Bachelor Party) too. She says nothing near deplorable --- in that post, which is all I can read, the link doesn't show the whole thread --- as half the stuff the OP spews all over the place, and you know it, Woggle. It's a throwaway line.

 

I'm sure there IS a post somewhere, likely somewhere on LS, where some girl details how she fracked with some dudes. But that post you reference isn't it; in fact, she comments on how she finds such behavior deplorable in women as well, if you read the whole thing. So. . . did you read the whole thing?

 

You probably don't watch this, but there's a porn brand that goes around with very attractive male strippers seducing and filming women having sex during their Bachelorette parties.

 

Yes, real amateurs.

 

I bet another brand does the same to men who are about to get married.

[Woggle]

I'm against the one sentence in her post where she says she wants men to get theirs, but the major point of that post is that she's telling the poster that he should not worry about his GF at a Bachelorette party if he trusts her. I'd say that to a female friend about her guy (at a Bachelor Party) too. She says nothing near deplorable --- in that post, which is all I can read, the link doesn't show the whole thread --- as half the stuff the OP spews all over the place, and you know it, Woggle. It's a throwaway line.

 

I'm sure there IS a post somewhere, likely somewhere on LS, where some girl details how she fracked with some dudes. But that post you reference isn't it; in fact, she comments on how she finds such behavior deplorable in women as well, if you read the whole thing. So. . . did you read the whole thing?

 

It speaks volumes actually. Some of the same women who condemn the OP harshly are the type who would have an evil smirk on their face if it were the other way around because men are getting their. It doesn't matter who a guy is because it is not payback time.

[Woggle]

Most likely he is a former nice guy who turned into a jerk to attract women and found out it works like a charm. The only problem is that he is disgusted this is what it takes to attract a woman.

 

Also it could be the opposite and he has a great mother. Many men when they grow with a great mother seeing a great relationship grow very bitter when they get out in the dating world and reality smacks them from out of left field. They find out these women are nothing like his mother and that trying to have the relationship his parents have is damn near impossible these days.

[Woggle]

I used to be one of the guys who came down hard on men like the OP. I remember going on vacation with a bunch of my buddies and going off and doing something else while they went to a strip club because I had the respect for my ex not to do that. I remember lecturing them on how they were wrong with how they treated women and you know where that got me?

 

It got me cheated by the same ex that I had respect while friends cheered her on because it was time to give men a taste of their own medicine. Ironically many of my friends who let strippers ride them like a stallion are treated like kings by their women. I tried being that pro-feminist man who stood up for women and took other men to task and all it got me was stomped on so excuse me if I don't want to go down that road again.

 

I figure that if some women won't return the same respect they demand from us what is the point.

[xoxoDaniellexoxo]

Most likely he is a former nice guy who turned into a jerk to attract women and found out it works like a charm. The only problem is that he is disgusted this is what it takes to attract a woman.

 

Also it could be the opposite and he has a great mother. Many men when they grow with a great mother seeing a great relationship grow very bitter when they get out in the dating world and reality smacks them from out of left field. They find out these women are nothing like his mother and that trying to have the relationship his parents have is damn near impossible these days.

Depends on where he is looking for a girl... not saying it is right that girls like the bad boy but that I can't deny. I can personally say I think any gender using the opposite is wrong. I have seen girls and guys do it and I don't understand it myself. I'm going to play devil's advicate though because what LoveandSuch says has factual proof, I am a pysch minor andI can say that people(both genders) who are comfertable viewing the opposite sex as a play toy usually have family issues, be it mother or father. I don't think it is right to say however that someone is a whore because of their parents because that is unfair. Also we actually don't worship Freud in fact most people see his theory for nothing more than an addict making up theories, at the time it was relevant now most therapist and people involved in the field turn to cognitive behavioral methods, not pyschoanalytical.

[LoveandSuch]

Psychologists? You mean those folks who worship Freud? The guy who took heroine(or cocaine) for tooth ache?

 

Somehow, I really don't trust what these psychologists guys have to say about anything.

 

 

Nope! Nothing at all to do with Freud. Many books relate men with this mentality with having mother/whore complexes BECAUSE of the hundreds of clinical documents citing their patients as recalling their mothers being hateful, nasty, loose women, and this caused the men to feel the same way toward all women, even if they trully WISH for normal mentality, they will continue to use and abuse women. This is good to know, women should read up on this, in order to dodge a hurling bullet!

[zengirl]

It speaks volumes actually. Some of the same women who condemn the OP harshly are the type who would have an evil smirk on their face if it were the other way around because men are getting their. It doesn't matter who a guy is because it is not payback time.

 

I don't want anyone to "get theirs" but I do think there are degrees of sentiments. The post you linked had a few words that were annoying, but then said at the bottom that women who behave badly are just as bad as men who behave badly! Frankly, I would equate the post you linked to something you'd say, as you often say, "Women do this too! Now they're just seeing what we go through" type stuff.

 

MDM says way grosser stuff, and he does it to be "shocking" likely anyway.

[Woggle]

I don't want anyone to "get theirs" but I do think there are degrees of sentiments. The post you linked had a few words that were annoying, but then said at the bottom that women who behave badly are just as bad as men who behave badly! Frankly, I would equate the post you linked to something you'd say, as you often say, "Women do this too! Now they're just seeing what we go through" type stuff.

 

MDM says way grosser stuff, and he does it to be "shocking" likely anyway.

Well she contradicted herself at the end of the post but too often this is what happens when ever men go through anything in a relationship even if they did nothing wrong to a woman.

[wezol]

 

 

 

 

You are describing yourself, not the OP. If you cannot reply to a thread without letting your bitterness influence your ability to rationalize then you really should do less posting and more laying on a couch in front of a therapist.

 

Just sayin'.

 

BTW, disenchantedly yours is totally kicking ass in here.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

Don't you think there is a reason you were banned? I've been here for a while and very rarely have I seen people banned....so therefore you have accomplished quit a feat, and apparently can't take a hint?

 

 

Btw, I really missed you. When are we going out? I can't wait

[zengirl]

Well she contradicted herself at the end of the post but too often this is what happens when ever men go through anything in a relationship even if they did nothing wrong to a woman.

 

Woggle, I personally don't see you as anything like the OP here for a variety of reasons, and I think you have your gender goggles on again. All my points still stand. And, as I said, I'm sure there ARE posts where women write something as gross as this OP, and they'd get **** for it too. The post you quoted was a poor parallel is all.

[Woggle]

Woggle, I personally don't see you as anything like the OP here for a variety of reasons, and I think you have your gender goggles on again. All my points still stand. And, as I said, I'm sure there ARE posts where women write something as gross as this OP, and they'd get **** for it too. The post you quoted was a poor parallel is all.

 

Maybe it was but it is an example of how some women will excuse certain things from a woman but condemn the OP. I bet if this thread was a from a woman you would have the same goose for gander responses.

 

I don't have gender goggles on again because gender very much is part of this issue. I am not talking about you personally but I would actually respect some women more if they simply admitted their bias. I wish they would just say what they really feel about men.

[zengirl]

Maybe it was but it is an example of how some women will excuse certain things from a woman but condemn the OP. I bet if this thread was a from a woman you would have the same goose for gander responses.

 

I don't have gender goggles on again because gender very much is part of this issue. I am not talking about you personally but I would actually respect some women more if they simply admitted their bias. I wish they would just say what they really feel about men.

 

I don't feel my dislike of the OP's grossness is a gender issue. He's like those people on Jersey Shore. And they're all gross, the men and the women. (Not to be confused with the lovely people you know who actually live on the REAL Jersey Shore.)

 

The goose for the gander responses are dumb, but in THIS one, you're the one bringing up that stuff. Feel free to point out its dumbness in threads where a woman actually brings it up, but why bring it into the thread? And you do gander for the goose stuff all the time. You're even trying to do it now! As I said, you're more equivalent to that post you quoted than MDM.

[Woggle]

I don't feel my dislike of the OP's grossness is a gender issue. He's like those people on Jersey Shore. And they're all gross, the men and the women. (Not to be confused with the lovely people you know who actually live on the REAL Jersey Shore.)

 

The goose for the gander responses are dumb, but in THIS one, you're the one bringing up that stuff. Feel free to point out its dumbness in threads where a woman actually brings it up, but why bring it into the thread? And you do gander for the goose stuff all the time. You're even trying to do it now! As I said, you're more equivalent to that post you quoted than MDM.

 

People asked for examples of condoning things from women and I gave one.

 

You don't make it a gender issue but to many people it is.

[zengirl]

People asked for examples of condoning things from women and I gave one.

 

You don't make it a gender issue but to many people it is.

 

Well, granted, I haven't read the whole thread. I've been skimming. This thread is like something you flip through the channels and see parts of. Not something I read carefully. Maybe I missed something.

[Woggle]

Well, granted, I haven't read the whole thread. I've been skimming. This thread is like something you flip through the channels and see parts of. Not something I read carefully. Maybe I missed something.

 

The thread is only half a page so check it out.

[zengirl]

The thread is only half a page so check it out.

 

Wait, which thread? I mean this thread. . . it's like 22 pages.

[Woggle]

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It already was a gender issue.

[dreamingoftigers]

If the genders were reversed the women in this thread would be cheering this behavior and calling it empowered while telling any man that takes issue with it that he is bitter and insecure. I am not cheering it but I understand why it happens. I don't condone drug dealing or crime either but I see why conditions push people into doing it. The same applies here.

 

Oh for the love of God. Name the women in this thread who would cheer it on.

Seriously, I am curious who would champion this type of "empowerment."

 

There have been a few posters and I used to work with two women who high fived each other about their cheating.

 

And doing it on a thread where we have a man that clearly doesn't treat women with makes sense how?

 

You want to see men treated better? Fantastic. Stand up for that.

 

But not on a thread where a man is treating women like dirt. This makes you more aligned with his kind then the good kind of man we need more of.

 

You mentioned the women in this thread would be cheering this behaviour on, which ones?

 

Which women that posted in this thread would cheer this behaviour on if it was a woman doing it?

 

If the women at your work haven't posted in this thread, they aren't part of the answer to the question.

 

PM them if you need.

 

Nobody in this thread but I am imagining what the responses would be if the genders were reversed. I don't condone what he is doing and it is wrong. I will say that much but if women want good

men they should be better to the good ones who do respect women and treat them well.

 

It speaks volumes actually. Some of the same women who condemn the OP harshly are the type who would have an evil smirk on their face if it were the other way around because men are getting their. It doesn't matter who a guy is because it is not payback time.

 

Houston, we have a problem....

[Woggle]

Maybe not in this particular thread but I posted an example of a woman clearly condoning these actions on this forum.

[Woggle]

Here is another thread where these actions are condoned when a woman does them. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=294931

[Mme. Chaucer]

Woggle, quit inspecting LoveShack with a finetoothed comb to find posts or threads that justify your hateful and bigoted attitude towards women.

 

Everyone knows that there exist creepy, lowlife women, AND that one can find posts on the Internets from any type of person espousing ANY belief system or touting ANY behavior imaginable. It means NOTHING.

 

You want to be a hater? And continue to feed into this sickness? Go right ahead. One day, all of your worst nightmares will probably become a reality, since you spend so much of your time and energy FEEDING them instead of nurturing positive and healthy stuff.

 

You and the OP can be bros for life. Have a blast.