Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't want to be a hater but I am sick of being hated because I have a penis. Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Here is another thread where these actions are condoned when a woman does them. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=294931 i read this post and it renders your argument invaild, this women was not dating this man, he was sleeping with other women every day and made NO commitment to her. She got drunk and slept with a man and admitted she was wrong. This thread IS COMPLETLY irrelavent. Please stop posting about how you think women are condoning promiscous actions of other women. Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't want to be a hater but I am sick of being hated because I have a penis. You are not hated because of the penis you aren't hated at all. You are being yelled at because you can't see past your own hurt. That is called displacment, you are placing the hurt you experienced onto an ENTIRE group of people which is no better than a women hating guys because she was hurt, so please stop throwing yourself a pitty party. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't hate women but how am I supposed to react to misandry? Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 With the possible exceptions of your mentally ill mother and ex wife, I believe the only one who hates you because you have a penis is ... you. The world, and LoveShack, is overflowing with penis lovin' women and men. Basically, with women and men who don't require a genital inspection to decide whether a person is lovable or not. You know what, Woggle? You are no different than a racist. I asked you in another thread (or maybe it was this one) if you think racism is justified for a white person who happened to have been robbed by a black person. If that white person spends the rest of their life spewing hatred towards all African-Americans, is that just fine? In the same post, I told you that I've been cheated on and extremely battered, stolen from, etc. by a man (well, by more than one if I'm honest.) So, is it just fine wit you if I actually DO decide to vociferously hate everyone who has a penis? Is it? To me, it's not. Hate is hate, evil is evil, wrongdoing is rarely justified. You are SUCH a big part of the problem. I can't believe that your relationship is in any way healthy with all the bitterness you embrace. Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't hate women but how am I supposed to react to misandry? SHE DIDN'T CHEAT!! SHE HAD A DRUNK NIGHT AND SLEPT WITH A GUY WHILE THE GUY SHE LIKED WAS SLEEPING WITH 2+ WOMEN A DAY!! STOP spreading bitterness and hatred go get help!! Spreading the hate makes the problem worse, and notice I NEVER once said anything about the OP's behavior because it isn't my place!! Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't hate women but how am I supposed to react to misandry? GET OVER IT ALREADY. You have to try SO hard to find any "misandry" (your favorite word, I believe) so you can hold onto your hurt. Stop. I am really, really feeling angry with you for it. Why? Because at times, I believe that you are moving towards the positive - and then you take a flying leap deep into the manure pile of your own self-pity and prejudice. YOU are doing exactly the thing you keep hating on all of us women for doing (which we ARE NOT DOING.) Generalizing, looking for reasons to denigrate and to marginalize a huge group of people. Stop it. Your marriage won't survive YOU nurturing this kind of toxicity, even if you keep it under wraps with your wife. It won't. Bye. Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 With the possible exceptions of your mentally ill mother and ex wife, I believe the only one who hates you because you have a penis is ... you. The world, and LoveShack, is overflowing with penis lovin' women and men. Basically, with women and men who don't require a genital inspection to decide whether a person is lovable or not. You know what, Woggle? You are no different than a racist. I asked you in another thread (or maybe it was this one) if you think racism is justified for a white person who happened to have been robbed by a black person. If that white person spends the rest of their life spewing hatred towards all African-Americans, is that just fine? In the same post, I told you that I've been cheated on and extremely battered, stolen from, etc. by a man (well, by more than one if I'm honest.) So, is it just fine wit you if I actually DO decide to vociferously hate everyone who has a penis? Is it? To me, it's not. Hate is hate, evil is evil, wrongdoing is rarely justified. You are SUCH a big part of the problem. I can't believe that your relationship is in any way healthy with all the bitterness you embrace. I comend you for being above hatred!! You are a sweet and good person, I am so sad that this happened to you, I hope you find all the love you deserve in this world. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Do you read message boards everyday telling you that you deserved to be cheated on and mistreated by these men? Did you have to work with men who openly bragged about mistreating women and called you the misandrist when you took an issue with it? I try so hard not to be hateful but I can only take so much and then I explode. I am in a constant state of anger because of the misandry that is just everywhere I look. Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Do you read message boards everyday telling you that you deserved to be cheated on and mistreated by these men? Did you have to work with men who openly bragged about mistreating women and called you the misandrist when you took an issue with it? I try so hard not to be hateful but I can only take so much and then I explode. I am in a constant state of anger because of the misandry that is just everywhere I look. I have had people tell me I don't deserved to be loved, that I will end up alone! I have been cheated on too, I have worked with people who brag about hating women or men and mistreating them. It is easier to be happy then to hate holding onto hate is poisonous it will kill you eventully, be that emotional or physical. You need theraputic help not something we on LS can do, living with hate is no way to live when there is a life full of happiness if you admit to getting help and just reach out for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You know what, Woggle? You are no different than a racist. I asked you in another thread (or maybe it was this one) if you think racism is justified for a white person who happened to have been robbed by a black person. If that white person spends the rest of their life spewing hatred towards all African-Americans, is that just fine? Well, at least you didn't go all out and compare him to Hitler Let me ask you this. Let's say you have a bad experience with a a particular dog breed. Let's say you've been attacked by dogs of that breed on several occasions. Would you be justified in being extra cautious when dealing with that breed in the future? Or would that make you "no different than a racist"? Link to post Share on other sites
xoxoDaniellexoxo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well, at least you didn't go all out and compare him to Hitler Let me ask you this. Let's say you have a bad experience with a a particular dog breed. Let's say you've been attacked by dogs of that breed on several occasions. Would you be justified in being extra cautious when dealing with that breed in the future? Or would that make you "no different than a racist"? That is called generalized displacement, and there's a difference between being cautious and hating!! Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Do you read message boards everyday telling you that you deserved to be cheated on and mistreated by these men? Did you have to work with men who openly bragged about mistreating women and called you the misandrist when you took an issue with it? I try so hard not to be hateful but I can only take so much and then I explode. I am in a constant state of anger because of the misandry that is just everywhere I look. Woggle, I agree with you 100%. There is a clear double standard displayed by many female "regulars" on this board. Don't let the local feminazi clique get to you with their shaming tactics and wild accusation (apparently, you are "no different than a racist" for daring to point out the glaring hypocrisy). There are women on this board who are proud of treating men as disposable, dating dozens of them at the same time, and discarding them for the most ridiculous reasons. One of them even had a "multi-dating blog" on this board. These women get high-fived by other female posters for being modern and liberated and unwilling to settle. Yet, when a guy like the OP does the same thing, he gets sh*tted all over. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Woggle, I agree with you 100%. There is a clear double standard displayed by many female "regulars" on this board. Don't let the local feminazi clique get to you with their shaming tactics and wild accusation (apparently, you are "no different than a racist" for daring to point out the glaring hypocrisy). There are women on this board who are proud of treating men as disposable, dating dozens of them at the same time, and discarding them for the most ridiculous reasons. One of them even had a "multi-dating blog" on this board. These women get high-fived by other female posters for being modern and liberated and unwilling to settle. Yet, when a guy like the OP does the same thing, he gets sh*tted all over. I agree. I feel that all I do is defend myself against misandry and I get called a woman hater for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Woggle, I hope you will answer MY questions about racism and hating, and judging men based upon the bad experiences I've had with some. That is, if you can take time out from your love fest with your like - minded bros, FGM and MDM. Does it make you feel good to be aligned with such people? Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Do you read message boards everyday telling you that you deserved to be cheated on and mistreated by these men? Did you have to work with men who openly bragged about mistreating women and called you the misandrist when you took an issue with it? I try so hard not to be hateful but I can only take so much and then I explode. I am in a constant state of anger because of the misandry that is just everywhere I look. You try so hard to not be hateful but yet you go out of your way to log on to a message board and find posts that prove your pathetic points to be correct? It has been about a year since you worked there......get over it and quit using them as an excuse. Misandry IS NOT everywhere. Only to you it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I want to ask you of society constantly tells you that you deserved the bad experiences you had even if you never did anything wrong to a man. How do you think it feels for me when I have done nothing but treat women well before my divorce but then get told I deserve it because it is now payback time for men? Whenever I read a woman praising female cheating or in general treating men like crap it is like I am reliving that whole experience. Have most men in general been supportive of you? Most women I have dealt with have not been supportive of me but in fact seem to get a kick out of a man being treat that way. I don't want to be aligned with these people but at the end of the day they would have my back much more than the people telling me I need to change. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I don't want to be aligned with these people but at the end of the day they would have my back much more than the people telling me I need to change. That's probably what the guys in the KKK say about their fellow Klansmen. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I want to ask you of society constantly tells you that you deserved the bad experiences you had even if you never did anything wrong to a man. How do you think it feels for me when I have done nothing but treat women well before my divorce but then get told I deserve it because it is now payback time for men? Whenever I read a woman praising female cheating or in general treating men like crap it is like I am reliving that whole experience. Have most men in general been supportive of you? Most women I have dealt with have not been supportive of me but in fact seem to get a kick out of a man being treat that way. I don't want to be aligned with these people but at the end of the day they would have my back much more than the people telling me I need to change. Once again I will remind you that your ex, your mom, those two girls you worked with, and a message board with some awful women does not represent the entire or even half of the female population. You are either full of crap or you have issues with the type of women you have aligned yourself with if MOST of them have not been supportive of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That's probably what the guys in the KKK say about their fellow Klansmen. You can't compare it to this. I want to ask you a question if most men you deal with tell you you deserved to be mistreated like many women I deal with tell me. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Dude, let the hate go. You're in a much better place now and you've survived that nastiness. Be a survivor not a victim, and leave the fear and anger behind. Pity is beneath contempt. Yes, some women are sexist and so are some men, and some people externalise their fears and pains by projecting them onto other people. It doesn't feel good and, most importantly, it takes up some of your head-space, and no-one deserves to live rent-free in your head. I agree that there is systemic sexism across all major Western societies. The solution isn't more sexism, more prejudice or more fear. Forgive yourself and forgive others. Protest injustice where you see it - don't add to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That's not generalized displacement if they've been attacked by the same breed more than twice. That's called common sense to stay away from breeds of that nature. Point remains most women on LS are misandrists and it's hypocritical for them to blame this guy for doing what many women on here do on a daily basis. Every day it's always a story on here about a woman cheating or screwing over men dozens of ways and get coddled for it but when a man comes on here about how he's not putting up with a female's sh*t, he gets backlash from the same women who do the sh*t. He is just as bad as they are but why are they not condemned? Why are women who treat men like crap looked at as heroes or victims on here? Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Refer to betterdeal's post. That's basically the outlook you need to take, now. Some people are no good, Woggle. It's best to focus on the good people rather than the bad. If women who treat men like crap are praised, that just shows that that particular group isn't worth acknowledging. You're an intelligent guy, but you focus on the ignorant way too much. Be bigger than that. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Another thread where blatantly wrong behavior while in a relationship is excused because of gender. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=294669 And people wonder why some men want to defend the OP. Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Beer Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 He is just as bad as they are but why are they not condemned? Why are women who treat men like crap looked at as heroes or victims on here? I've noticed this too. Link to post Share on other sites
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